we will take a virtual question from adam siegel. >> hello everybody. thank you very much for doing the panel sorry i could not be there with you in person but i think this question is for max the others can question my assumption. so max seems in the u.s. the debate about whether defense for and it is a school tour is over people basically believing it is not. so i want there's a different perception of that among the nato allies you spoke of and if there is within nato different versions of that view. >> that is a good question. i think it is actually the discussion is more is that more or less escalatory but the question is much more a legal one. should the military be allowed to operate in peacetime potentially do this globally, what is the relationship with intelligence? it is that question in particular that is holding many continental european countries back in developing a similar posture. it is less of in the lesko he lesko attempt more babe your credit question right now. [inaudible] >> thank you. i work for the nuclear southern initiative but

i'm adam siegel, the chair in emerging technology and national security and director of the council of digital and cyberspace policy program. i'm going to take a brief moment to welcome you all to today's events. it is exciting this is the first symposium in person. i'm not there to enjoy it with you. this is the eighth cyber symposium we have had. the last three, have focused on geopolitical competition. we've also covered online content moderation, deepfakes, and privacy in international trade. i hope all of you will take part in consider subscribing to some of the other products from the digital policy program. you can take out -- check out the cyber operations tracker, the running track of known space based. we are adding to those given what's happening in the world these days. also subscribe to that politics, the blog of the digital cyber state program. i do want to thank everyone who has been involved in the program and working on the symposium. in particular, connie sutherland , who has given so much support and assistance. this is great timing to have director inglis with us to

tonight adam parker and jeremy siegel will be with us this evening, too lots to talk about after allhappen next week let's do final trades. carrie, what do you have >> i've got thermo fisher, it might be still upfor the day, they reported earnings, they are a life science company, they make fantastic tools and analytical equipment for biotech and health care and we think this is a solid business that sailed through covid with a lot of extra business because of testing, but they're continuing to show growth and we think it can outperform this year. >> okay. shannon? >> union pacific rail demand continues to outpace supply, they need to get more engineers and conductors online, we think this trend away from full global zags to a more hybrid approach to production will continue to be a rail wind for rails in the next few years. >> doc >> himax, himx, i bought the june 10 calls. >> josh brown, give me a name before i run. >> ao smith, bought more this week. >> good stuff. great weekend. the ot, i will see you then. "the exchange" is now. >>> thank you very much, scott, hi, everybody, i'm