you look at europe it started out, you know, with this kind of -- you know, the market rules, adam smithkind of, you know, machiavellian mentality. and it evolved into an economy that protected its people and had more social policies. so i do believe that is evolution of capitalism. if you want to to know how the road, ask somebody coming back. that's where europe has been. i don't believe that if you stick with capitalism in this form, and the free market enterprise in this form that we're going to grow and expand. unfortunately capitalism and the free market economy as we know it is archaic. i just have to say for the last panel, for the emphasis that there is a lot of nano technology going on at suny albany and albany state. guest: you got a democrat that snuck through on your republican line. host: you don't believe it? guest: of course it's a process but it's not the kind most americans like. if you look over the past decade or so, evolution has been that one little policy after another has grown the government and americans hate it. so one little bailout here and, ok, we acquiesce