on the eve of the debate of the defense authorization act, there's no one better to talk to than adam stan read december from tufts university. chairman of the board of the u.s. naval institute, chief security and diplomacy analyst and 37-year sailor of the seas, a four-star sailor that commanded on nail as well. while in the navy he served as commander and nato supreme allied commander in europe from 2009 to '13. he's the first navy officer to have held those positions, also on hillary clinton's short list for vice president and president trump's short list for secretary of state. i personally wish both had stopped looking after talking to the admiral. his books are must-read literature. it's "sea power" that could not be more timely fon the ndaa authorization debate this week, this year and the decades ahead. admiral stavridis, welcome. it's great to have you. >> wonderful to be with you. >> last night president trump made a change of john kelly. a four star admiral must know a four star general. what do you think of him? >> i've known john kelly since we were in our 20s together back in