david addington. edward evans. i'll just keep calling names and come up when your name is called or afterward. it's up to you. >> i don't think david is here. vice president olague: i saw him earlier. >> i think he stepped out. >> thank you, commissioners. randy shaw. i assume you got my letter to oppose this application. you can get beer and wine right next door on the same block. this doesn't serve any need that is unmet in the neighborhood. and what's interesting is how as fond a fellow as prior market may be, there are certain facts that when he ran the grand liquor, he wrecked the 100 block south side of turk street with 20 to 50 people every day and from the moment that site was closed, that is one of the best blocks in the tenderloin. that is a fact. you go to that south side of the 100 block of turk since the liquor store closed and you will see nobody hanging out. go to the tiptop market as i do regularly and there is always a crowd in front. so that's a reality. that is the facts. people say we can't have

the policy and it became a very draconian policy because it was implemented to the spirit of the addington cheney interpretation and not even to the spirit of what i think was the george w. bush into an interpretation which was we're not going to count al qaida and we're not going to count the taliban under geneva but we are going to treat them as with the spirit of geneva that simply didn't happen it certainly didn't happen at guantanamo but you think that there was always this idea that perhaps it wouldn't be their problem when it comes to closing guantanamo bay that wouldn't be their problem when it comes to i know eventually deciding what to do with the detainees if the war is ever and they will never had an adult plan but that's always a part of our system of government because you can make something stretch out for four and even eight years if you try hard enough in this case though i think we actually had some people who were making decisions based on what they thought were the best who are in the best interest of the national security situation in the united states at this at this