>> negative response from addington. >> david addington's back there. he's going to correct me as i go. he's the repository of all the stuff. >> did you know personally governor bush? did you know him when he was running? when did you first meet president george w. bush? >> i was -- it was in the campaign period, probably late 1998, early 1999. i was asked by condi rice and paul wolfowitz to come down to sit in on a meeting and brief then-governor bush. that's how i got started to know him. and i made a big mistake in my first meeting. he schooled me a little bit. we were talking about a speech he was going to give on defense. he wanted to talk about how to revise and reform defense. i told him, well, you better not get into the details, governor, because there are a lot of experts who will then show the world that you don't know what you're talking about. he said, who are you, anyway? he said, you don't understand what elections are about. do you? i said no, i guess i don't, governor. he said, if i want to reform the pentagon, and i don't say anything