i'm joined by imam adean sharif and rabbi matthew goertz. joining us on what is a difficult night around the world. my first question is a conversation to ask you gentlemen to weigh in as spiritual leaders. earlier today i was with two friends, good men in their 50s. one palestinian, the other israeli. they couldn't look at each other. they are both hurt. they are both angry. how -- is it time yet to even begin to bridge that divide? imam, i'll start with you. >> i think it's over time for us to bridge the divide. i think that's one of the reasons why we still have the conflict. i think we need to bring people together to have those conversations that ultimately can remind them about the principles of their faith. and the more we can lean on them, the more we can remind ourselves about what almighty god has said about how to treat not only your friend, but also how to treat one that you may be considering to be an enemy -- >> byron: rabbi, i know you share the spirit of that sentiment. but we're in this moment right now. there's bloodletting