betty: that is not how adelson sees it.heldon: she doesn't like that we are a competitor in the ferries. now, i can't say that i am the ferry expert of the world, but because she got very bitter over the competition, so she has been bitter all this time. betty: coming up, the clash of the titans continues as they look beyond macau for the next gambling mecca. ♪ betty: the explosion of the casino business in macau has been a huge windfall for this tiny chinese territory and the beijing government. casinos paid the government almost $18 billion in taxes and fees in 2013 just to operate in macau. with great success comes a great amount of squabbling. adelson, a man who is not afraid to wade into conflict, whether it is about israeli sovereign rights -- sheldon: there is no such history as the palestinian people. betty: or how the g.o.p. can take back the white house -- said he's seen his share of battles against the ho family. sheldon: there was a meeting of a coalition of the concessionaires. so i sat in one of the meetings a

i don't think shelden adelson ever thought newt gingrich was going to win the presidential race. this time they all have a chance, at least many of them do and it's an audition. i think these early polls are meaningless. i think any report that shelden adelson has made up his mind in april of 2015 on who to back is just crazy. that's not happening. i think he does like rubio, but i think he likes some of the governors, especially scott walker. he's not going to make up his mind already even after this audition this weekend. >> and andy when democrats and specifically hillary clinton look at the field of republicans and they are like you know 1,000 of them which one makes them the most nervous? >> i think the potential of a governor running. the governors can run against washington, that's a message among voters in a republican primary and general election so looking at someone like scott walker for instance and, of course, jeb bush and looking in those two cases, walker and bush, at the amount of money that they can amass to get through a primary and potentially for a general ele

the latest days of the sheldon adelson primary is happening in las vegas. and jeb bush is holding a donor retreat in miami. what is the cosmic significance of these three big events? john: the religious right still matter in iowa. money still matters. and jeb bush cares more about his donors than about the national press corps. mark: it is the first time rand did a iowa cattle call. i think he might be the front runner in iowa. it might be interesting to see how good he does in a group that big. the will show a video and then give his stump speech. that will be interesting to me. las vegas, george w. bush is opening for his brother. and finally jeb bush, i agree with you, the donors are really important to him. this group has buzz in the political world that some of the people in his donor community think the campaign is arrogant disorganized, maybe not being as forthcoming with the donors. there was a call for some of the big donors where very little information was provided. it is a big opportunity for them to get the donors engaged like , the obama and r

i say sheldon adelson won the weekend. the guy. there is a sheldon adelson primary. he has his own primary. people came out to kiss his ring. he will continue to be a winner for some time. i will say the big winner of the weekend was barack obama at the white house correspondents dinner. killing it, as he does every year. he is a great comic performer. mark: he was good, but he has been better. john: there is james. mark: another bad day in the media for the clinton campaign. the clinton foundation has a technology mistakes in the handling of some of the foreign donations. bill clinton reportedly got paid $200,000 by goldman sachs for a speech he gave in 2011 months before the gotham city firm started lobbying the clinton state department. that is according to the "international business times." here is a sampling of what the clintons got. >> what still boggles the mind is why doesn't hillary deal with this herself? >> the sloppiness in the greed that follows on this. >> it is about the appearance of conflict of interest and everyone seems to understand this is a hug

this did not sit well with adelson.o to first to get the money. that's -- that's what this boils down to, unfortunately. and i think for jeb frrshor marco for others who are going to get in the race the problem is you're doing the dance this early, you're making statements and taking positions that are going to dog you when you get to a general election. when the country tunes in and they're going to remember wait a minute you said this on immigration and this about campaign finance. you said this about other issues. and how they navigate that is going to be very very tricky. so my suggestion, is be honest and be who you are now, because that's who you're going to need to be next november. >> how do you think this looks? we reported on this they used to call this the imvisible primary. >> i think voters are like their vote will matter more than one billionaire or two or three billionaires who have influence on our politics. on the other hand this campaign is going to be unlike anything we've seen in terms of the amount

because they want to know what does marco rubio think, not whatlewhat adelson thinks. you're doing to stack up to a lot of pressure on the kind of president you would be. >> it's interesting because i was a skeptic of the occupy wall street out come in the sense they didn't organize anything politically. they got a lot of attention. in a sense are we now witnessing kind of the ultimate have beenry of occupy because -- i mean that because this language of 1% the language of the powerful versus the ordinary person that cascaded into the 2012 election 47% mitt romney gaffe which was just him sort of talking other members of the wealthy class. have we seen the progressive movement win the war even if they lost battles early on? >> we can't underestimate the affect that occupy has then. october pie activists were articulating a vision of the world that they thought was really screwed up. when they talk about income inequality they put it into the national conversation. the fight for 15 the strikes that we saw on wednesday,

>> sheldon adelson has access period.t have to stroke you 300,000 or 3 million or $3 billion check to get that. because of his position his views, particularly with respect to israel which is respected within the party. he doesn't have to throw his money around that way. what he's doing, and what i think you see the kochs and others doing, i think you're absolutely right. this is as much ideological with respect to some of the things that they are pushing. >> but the kochs have invested a lot at the state level. >> so is it ideological for the billionaires on the left who are funding global warming, or is it just about their bottom line? >> i think it's vanity. what is the difference fundamentally between marco rubio and jeb bush on israel the bigger comments aside? i mean the field is very tight in terms of that. including rand paul all of a sudden. the same himymnal. and the role that he wants to play of king maker. sheldon, you can't really differentiate ideologically between these guys, but he wants to be the guy that

rather than counting cards he is counting on the generosity of sheldon adelson, trying to play the role of king maker in the 2016 election. the 36th richest american is expected to spend upwards of $100 million. >> an individual with millions tense of millions hundreds of millions, could fit the bill for a campaign, and make a difference have a determinative effect. >> reporter: running for president is about getting the most electoral vote. the new way of campaigning is about getting the most cash. it's the legacy of the supreme court's 2010 citizens united ruling allowing compses and unions to pend unlimited sums of money on campaign. and the recent case allows for nonprofit organizations to accept limited donations from individuals. it is precisely this provision that will allow jed bush to have all television advertising and mail paid for by an entity allowing unprecedented funds. and to operate with a coordinated effort. >> the republicans seem to be talking only about me. >> before bush is a candidate. >> we must do better than the obama administration-clinton foreign policies tha

beyond abelson -- beyond adelson is this notion this question of winning the pro-israel primary. i think you will see a fair amount of auditioning. john: that is in -- that is a leading indicator. what the republican presidential field needs is a man who says what is on his mind, a man like governor john kasich who spoke at the new america conference. just part of his plan to get in front of people who don't live in ohio. john kasich was typically unplugged. john kasich: you think about cows, agriculture, steel. the only risk to the bonds is if people stopped drinking. in good times they drink and in bad times they drink more. i made a lot of different things. -- i am a lot of different things. it's killing me i'm not going to see linkin park in the next couple of weeks. mark: there's more. listen to governor unfiltered taking a fairly easy target at gordon of gotham city. john kasich: i think wall street is overwhelmingly too greedy. john: a very basic-like performance. -- very kasich-like performance. can he be republican nominee? mark: it worked a lot, very well for john mccai

>> well, there's no doubt adelson is the big prize here, one of the richest men in the world. me the ven knee shah is his. now there have been some reports out there, one in politico that he had decided on rubio or was leaning towards marco rubio. been a very outspoken supporters of israel. i talked to a close friend of adleson's and other donors familiar with his thinking to some degree. what i hear over and over again it's unlikely he settles early on a candidate. a lot of time. people are starting to get involved. we can expect to see this play out before he starts overtly putting money behind one of the republicans. >> msnbc's jane tim, thanks from iowa. and we can all tell benji you're at the venetian hotel in las vegas, you're in the in venice. just saying to be clear. thank you, guys. >>> here's a programming note if you are not in iowa or las vegas, you will likely be in washington, d.c. for the white house correspondents dinner oh, there you go look at me don't like that picture, hosting special coverage of the event live on msnbc at 9:00 tonight for you. if you feel

erik: you traveled with sheldon adelson along with announced and unannounced presidential candidates.at make you a presidential candidate? gov. snyder: no, what they wanted to hear with a great story. and it is, a great comeback in michigan. we need to balance budgets there, pay down deficits, and do tax reforms. in michigan, we did it in year one. it's all doable. erik: ari fleischer himself, who was part of the organizing group that put the adelson affair to gather -- together, he asked everybody if you are not planning to run for the white house why else come to the event? gov. snyder: in many cases, if you think about places like detroit and michigan, people's perceptions lag behind reality by about five to 10 years. i'm talking about the detroit bankruptcy here today at the conference. if i took you to detroit today it would be -- you would be extremely impressed and it would change aural perception. stephanie: when you look at the republican party on a national scale, when you say washington is a mess 50% of the reason is cousin of republicans who. want to -- who do not want to

politico america reports that sheldon adelson thinks senator rubio could be the future of the republican party. to what extent does rubio's status as a freshfaced, rising star a commune intraparty attacks? mark: it a real problem because we saw it as president obama in 2008. attacking the guy who was supposed to be leaving the party to the promised land is hard to do. you might take out rubio with negative ads but the backlash could hit you. as long as he is seen as he is now, it is harder to take him on as it is walker, cruise, or bush. john: you know the super pac's will be doing some dirty work. i think there is enough to look at and rubio's background. not as formidable to jeb bush in some ways but there is a lot of stuff that went on in florida. a look about his time down there and i think the bush campaign, among others, will not be shy about wanting to take him out. mark: we almost have to put a countdown clock on the show because marco rubio has gone without -- has gone all of 2015 without a day in david louvre's barrel. it will be a challenge because again, imagine if they get c

bonus, politico america reports that adelson thinks rubio could be the future of the republican party. to what extent does marco rubio's status as a rising star make him immune from intraparty attacks? mark: it's a real problem. we saw this with obama in 2008, attacking a guy who is supposed to be leading the party is hard to do. it can backfire. you are the guy who takes out rubio with negative ads, but the last could take you. as long as rubio is seen the way he is seen now, it's hard to take him on than a ted cruz or jeb bush. john: harder, but not impossible. the super pacs will be doing a lot of this dirty work. i think there is enough to look at in marco rubio's background. there is a lot of stuff that went on in florida that will get a look again about his time down there. the bush campaign will not be shy about trying to take him out. mark: we almost have to put a countdown clock on the show. marco rubio has gone third 2015 with only positive coverage. he will only keep rising and building support as long as nobody takes them out. i don't see the right candidate to do it. the

adelson in that way.is something i will watch carefully to see if he does pull down sheldon adelson's support. betty: thank you julie. be sure to catch a big interview tonight in politics with house speaker john boehner, an exclusive interview coming up. i believe he will also be at this las vegas event. a $45 billion acquisition of time warner cable may be teetering on the brink of collapse. it is 99% dead. staffers join lawyers at the justice department. regulators say it would mean higher prices and hurt consumers, apparently. alex sherman is here with more. the tide has turned. what is it about doing a hearing that mystical say, hey, the deal is dead? alex: simply the length of it. he cannot remember anyone ever going to the process of going through one of these hearings. they take so long. all of the dirty laundry that may be comcast is not really want aired out there in public washington and also, when rich and i were talking, he pointed out comcast needs customers. if you're going to fight washingt

the main attraction billionaire casino magnet shelden adelson and his checkbook.en declared or potential candidates met to woe evangelical voters. here with me in miami, mike pa paluto of politico. you were in vegas, how would you characterize the meetings? >> well i mean there was a lot of stuff the press was actually not allowed to go into but in terms of the public speeches i would say the biggest hit was probably ted cruz. he really hit a lot of the right buttons for that crowd. you know, it's all about adelson at that meeting and trying to impress him and trying to make a good impression with a particular donor crowd. and i think that cruz did a good job with that. >> is adelson speaking out or any indication who he's kind of leaning towards? >> well the word is that he really likes marco rubio, but i'm told he's not going to make a decision on who to support until after the second republican debate. >> mark all the republicans in iowa spoke out against same-sex marriage republicans think it's inevitable and a solid majority of americans support it why are th

sera spent by three / one in one of those that contributed was sheldon adelson. review outspend him. [laughter] that was just with one state. so what i call a rosy memory to chart the vial of the very is rosy it is better to remember after but try to live throat -- through again people think of the '60s him the '70s people had smoked marijuana and no big deal. that is that the marijuana we have today. is very effective campaign in classic terms of medical marijuana or person who cannot get relief and neighbor tells. that is a legend ministates saying how can you deny the chance that is a difference between marijuana and cocaine but a superb physical specimen new york whalers stock fell by cocaine it doesn't happen like marijuana but it happens. people don't die from marijuana very often. the cocaine will take you to your knees. so this argument with the sympathy is what kind of person can you be to deny? so with those provisions slips were 5,000 but then she said you to have as many as you want. most of the people were males between the ages of 18 and 25. this wa

adelson tried to waet beat cruz when he ran.ther rubio or one of the governors. i don't think he's a cruz guy. >> let me bring the panel in. this is reporting from the "new york times." george bush saying he is skeptical about lifting sanctions right now at a time when he believes the government is gaving in. that's interesting to me and i know this is a closed door thing and a report that is leaking out from there. i do think of his father and his father was very adamant about not criticizing or questioning his successor's in action. >> particularly cheney criticizes everything obama does. >> it will be interesting now. whether his views on the wam obama administration policies will slip out a little bit more as he advocates for his brother. he wants -- he did also say that the bush name is you know a difficult thing for, you know for jeb bush but as long as he will advocate for him it will be hard to do that. >> let me bring you back in. we don't hear a lot from george w bush any more. what's your sense? do you have any sense

rather than counting cards, he counts on the generosity of the adelson who played the king maker. the 37 richest american is expected to spend upwards of 115 million. an individual coming in with millions tens of millions who knows, maybe hundreds of millions. an individual or corporation could fit the bill and make a difference. have a determinative effect. >> of course running for president is about getting the most electoral votes. the new way of campaigning is about getting cash. that is the legacy of the supreme court's 2010 citizen's united ruling allowing corporations to spend money on campaigns. and a lesser known company allowing for nonprofit organizations to accept donations from individuals. it is this provision that allows jed bush to have advertising and mail paid for by an entity with an ability to raise funds to higher bush strategists and operate without accorded nating with the -- coordinating and campaign. right to rise is at work. republicans seem to be talking about me. >> before bush is a candidate. >> we must do better than the ob--clinton -- obama-clinton f

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jeb bush and marco rubio making a real play for that report today that sharon adelson looking at rubio. that's a big fish to catch. very interesting to see how this shakes out. >> jeb bush will raise 80 gazillion dollars. >> you can ask steve forbes how that worked for him and steve perot. money doesn't always work. bobby jindal says we are holding a primary not an auction. >> i will be interesting to see who gets florida bush or rubio. >> look who people voted for him florida elderly some significant percentage of people who voted for jeb bush have died since then. >> oh, man. >> that's terrible. >> i think it will be rough for rubio because he hasn't been a governor. and i think that does give jeb bush huge advantage over him. >> jeb bush does have a lot of goodwill in florida still. he has that on his side. rubio has that young fresh thing going on and it's really attractive. we haven't seen a lot of rollouts, might see lindsey graham do a rollout. bobby jindal do a rollout. a lot more to come santorum. this is going to be quite a horse race. anyway, thank you both. >> thanks, greta

and rev, you and my co-panels would know better about this, but wasn't some guy adelson just put in like to defeat obama? so that's the people the republicans care about. the 0.2% the 1% not the fast food workers. >> but is that -- we heard a lot, jason, about this autopsy they were going to do in the party, to reach out and be kinder and gentler. and then their vote and their policies reflect the exact opposite of that. >> oh, yeah, they were supposed to reach out to black folk, and that hasn't helped -- >> maybe rich black folk. >> and supposed to reach out to the lbgt community, and that didn't really work in indiana. i don't think anybody's been paying attention to this autopsy so they'll be in serious trouble next year. they may be dead on arrival. all right, straight ahead, what does senator pat roberts have in common with girls across the country and their parents? >>> and we're celebrating national high five day. "politics nation" style. packages you want to return you should just give them to us since we're going to be here anyway it's kind of a no brainer >>> we're back with ou

they see a guy like sheldon adelson, or the koch brothers and kissing their butts or rings or toes ortever and think, that is sickening that that guy because he's rich has a bigger say than i do, by the millions. your thoughts? i think that guy had a point, the guy who was flying that gyrocopter. he says, nobody talks about it. they've given up the fight. >> well, when they're asked about it, chris, they do say and polls do show -- >> when asked about it. >> that they're disturbed by this flood of money into politics. so the folks who have been working to reduce the flow of money into politics is translating that sentiment into actual voting activity. because it's just not a top voting issue for most people. and we've seen efforts to make it a top voting issue, but it seems like just more of a sort of rhetorical thing that when asked about it, they will say that they're opposed to it, but we seldom see it rising to be a top issue in elections. and that's why it's so difficult to actually generate the political momentum to get congress or to get state legislatures to vote, to change th

>> the policy in mideast has led to absolute ruin -- >> he change that because he wants sheldon adelson'soney. >> uart interrupting me. >> i'm sorry. you are interrupting me. >> challenging that hillary clinton has celebrated. celebrated the surveillance state. she is celebrated using this war -- >> when did she do that? >> rand paul at least have the challenge -- by the way, why are you you not mentioning chafee? >> let's talk about lincoln chafee. who did he support for president in 2004? since he is now made the iraq war the issue he wants to run on , who did he support for president in 2004? who did he support for senate leadership and 2004? he supported george w. bush. and john kerry also voted for the resolution. it is just really. >> you don't consider him a moderate republican -- i don't know what he is anymore? i don't think is relevant, bob. >> you think hillary clinton has all of the ingredients of a margaret thatcher? >> no, i don't. let's stop for a second. you want to talk about working people and who they may or may not support. she will have the support of every labor unio

of course was jeb bush's father's secretary of state, and republican big donors, including sheldon adelson was upset about that reportedly. outside of that jeb bush's biggest challenge and obstacles to the republican nomination are going to be when it comes to ideology. can someone who favors comprehensive immigration reform who favors common core win the republican nomination. those are the central issues whether he can win or not. >> the conversation on morning joe was interesting as relates to the tea party as it was pointed out for nearly eight years, you have members of the tea party trying to fight the affordable health care taking on anything the president would support here and some of those conservatives, some of those on the far right are asking where was jeb bush during those years. >> that's right. and today's republican party when it comes to president obama is a confrontational one. sometimes the test is who has been more confrontational, who has stood up stronger to president obama, and if today's conservative voters the people are going to turn out in iowa new hampshire and

mark: we saw last time people like sheldon adelson and others gave large amounts of money to need --h and rick santorum. citizens united has played a role but there has been a attitude change. in 2012 mitt romney and president obama were reluctant to be seen associated with super pacs. a lot of candidates help encourage people to give. you will see not just candidate activity but people the not embarrassed. jeb bush is trying to limit his current super pac contributions to one milling are checks. eventually he will change that. people like ted cruz and rick perry are going to take multiple million-dollar checks and not be embarrassed. stephanie: how grotesque is the election going to be? we see jeb bush and hillary clinton and we already see this type of super pac dollars piling up. how does the fact that pretty much every rich and powerful person out there for the last two years has talked about how important income inequality is to them, how we have to make a ship. we could face an election that is going to get into the gazillions in terms of campaign fund-raising. it is gross. mar

that is before i started watching the activities of sheldon adelson being. now i am not so sure.ho is the real target and who are they getting at. it is an intriguing idea and i think maybe my friend was onto something. jamal abdi: i think it is very clear that benjamin netanyahu opposes any deal. i think the fact he came to congress and dangled something that was something -- outside of reality was a convenient way to present something other than the truth, which is that he does not want this deal, he doesn't want any deal because this nuclear issue is a gateway, an obstacle that has prevented other conversations from happening. a symbol of the disagreement between the united states and iran. the substance does matter, but the deal a couple is what we set out to accomplish. it prevents iran from getting a nuclear weapon. there is no scenario under which iran has massive inspections -- every move is being watched. all of these restrictions are in place and iran decides to rationally break out and try to build nuclear weapons. it is not a rational move, it is not the iranian gover

possible contenders will get to make their pitch to prominent donors and to megadonor sheldon adelsonillionaire casino magnate who spent $100 million on the 2012 campaign. >>> a labor dispute once again threatening to disrupt business at some west coast ports making news right now. union officials saying truck drivers are set to vote this weekend on whether to stay off the job next week all of this is part of a long-running labor dispute and it could add to the backlog at the busiest port complex in southern california. some 16,000 drivers mostly independent contractors are faced with shrinking wages, but they wanted to become full-fledged employees of the trucking companies. meanwhile, a trucking association leader says this is not the right time for those dreevers to drivers to go off the job. >>> well you might call it a hike to heal our wounded warriors. a large group of veterans gathering in our nation's capital to raise awareness about veteran suicide. participants will be going on a 12-mile march around washington, d.c. while carrying as much beat as they can and the weight is

reportedly happened on saturday at a closed-door meeting of the republican jewish coalition at sheldon adelson'ssanctions on iran. he also said a nuclear deal could do more harm than good saying "you think the middle east is chaotic now, imagine what it looks like for our grandchildren. that's how americans should view the deal." bush also criticized president obama's decision to withdraw all u.s. forces from iraq in 2011. he also reportedly suggested the president is not doing enough to defeat isis saying in part "in order to be an effective president, when you say something you have to mean it. you gotta kill 'em." wow. >> somebody had a camera phone on him there. >>> in the birmingham news at least two people are dead and five others missing at a powerful storm capsized sailboats off the alabama coast saturday not far from my hometown in pensacola. >> my goodness. >> some of the capsized vessels were participating in a regatta contest that they have every year down in mobile bay when winds quickly increased from 15 to 50 knots, generating winds as high as 10 feet. this is like cape cod, mike.