foundation on agent orange issues and the impact on veterans and received assistance from david adelstein and rick white man who just stepped out. what i researched with this steadies and the squashing if you will which is a harsh word to say, this quashing of the science and the challenges placed on the methodology is. i am curious about comments from the team up there on that and how there have been statements about how science was done wrong and not just wrong like a mistake but on purpose and how might that provide another avenue or a vehicle to come to terms with this situation here for our veterans and families? but also as it relates back to the folks from vietnam? >> another question. >> i am the chairman of that agent orange committee for the the apec have a couple of comments first for dr. martin in the presumptive issues when you say may be called from the institute of medicine and uses different levels of association and which shows the different levels of association and the secretary makes the determination of this presumptive are not. i want to point* that out. most of the

a paperback that had read in it and adelstein to look for it and is driving me nuts and i can't remember the name of it. >> neither can i. at [laughter] >> i know what was written by you. >> you are sure? >> my second question is as i understood you correctly you were mentioning that government is sort of where the wealthy and the opera. on the other hand, i have heard not that i'm disputing you, people like ted kennedy and maybe michael dukakis and others being ones that have been in there to help the underdog, the immigrants, giving out free food stamps or freeway to those people. you agree or disagree with that? >> agree with? >> the fact that kennedy and the other people are sort of on the other end of what you're saying with the government service in the rich rather than -- >> i see. >> and thirdly, who you see as a good president -- >> you are skipping one. >> the book was the other one. >> ic. >> to do like to see beyond ex-president? >> i would just as soon have a lottery and two somebody from this audience. [laughter] [applause] i would gamble that anybody in this audience would

the work i did for this session -- we did, paul adelstein senior economist at the company myself, it spans both administrations and it's all about policy, not about politics, and so any grades anybody might infer from the work here has to do with the effect of policy on the economy during the 2007 to 2009 period. and what we have today and you have a handout of tables and charts is an abbreviated version of the paper and key results from retrospective counterfactual simulations with a large scale quarterly macroeconomic model. the following question is asked what would have happened to the economy, employment and unemployment rate, inflation and profits, interest rates and stock prices, some of the tables covered that much territory. from 2007 to 2009, the period that we could call a great recession if the fiscal monetary policy actually implemented had not been implemented. since actual historic data have invaded and in the policies actually implemented at least so far removing them from the model base version of history that tracks closely the historical data pulled the baseline al

the work i did for this session -- we did, paul adelstein senior economist at the company myself, itspans both administrations and it's all about policy, not about politics, and so any grades anybody might infer from the work here has to do with the effect of policy on the economy during the 2007 to 2009 period. and what we have today and you have a handout of tables and charts is an abbreviated version of the paper and key results from retrospective counterfactual simulations with a large scale quarterly macroeconomic model. the following question is asked what would have happened to the economy, employment and unemployment rate, inflation and profits, interest rates and stock prices, some of the tables covered that much territory. from 2007 to 2009, the period that we could call a great recession if the fiscal monetary policy actually implemented had not been implemented. since actual historic data have invaded and in the policies actually implemented at least so far removing them from the model base version of history that tracks closely the historical data pulled the baseline all

foundation on agent orange issues and the impact on veterans and received assistance from david adelstein and rick white man who just stepped out. what i researched with this steadies and the squashing if you will which is a harsh word to say, this quashing of the science and the challenges placed on the methodology is. i am curious about comments from the team up there on that and how there have been statements about how science was done wrong and not just wrong like a mistake but on purpose and how might that provide another avenue or a vehicle to come to terms with this situation here for our veterans and families? but also as it relates back to the folks from vietnam? >> another question. >> i am the chairman of that agent orange committee for the the apec have a couple of comments first for dr. martin in the presumptive issues when you say may be called from the institute of medicine and uses different levels of association and which shows the different levels of association and the secretary makes the determination of this presumptive are not. i want to point* that out. most of the