she said adl lovelace. i did know who she was i could not remember what was it that she did that helped to define the computer revolution? all my a daughter got made turned onto a bill lovelace that was already writing this book over 50 years but i needed of flame and the more that i steadied her partnership with charles babbage the more i realize that is a great framing device with the connections from the committees to processors and engineering remember when i was here talking about steve jobs jobs, that we even showed it that every product launch he had the intersection of the liberal arts and technology. and dash she helped to create that intersection and that is her true creativity belongs. >> but there is the thesis so everyone understands this is the passage i picked out creative geniuses with innovative idea is to turn concepts into do contraptions. and you believe then that ecosystem and then the practical engineer with the process of collaboration. >> but did we should not overstate her and not o