. >> hillary clinton ther the toneof herpeech does sugges the obama admintration is set lead channg its stan toward iran. >> i do not think there is anything new there. i think clinton trying to inject a note of silliness in u.s. policy. why? this administration -- in jack -- inject a note of saline -- for- steeliness in u.s. policy. nothing has mef the obama admistration's policy, and they run the risk of appearing inhe '90s. i thk hillary clinton ikeen to make thepolicy appear mo robust. that i why e saidhis offer of engement would not be there forever. iran haso take it sooner, rather than later. we hear that elsewhere in washiton. the president is condering ging them perhs another two or three months. dthen they would go back to the united nations a push for different course of action. >> as to say, notuch has come fromhe approaches so far. the sittion in ian is complicated. is txpectation much more will come from the scks >> the speechhat hillary clinn gave today, she gave for a number of reason it sirected tohe washington elite. as f -- this was r washington policymakers. she has

you have expectaon on the part of the admintration on a certain owth level. is that changing? th comes out of wall street a different sort of the pjection gdp. >> ihink the sort of conconveniences -- >> charlie: what's the for cast -- >> for nextear, no. for 2010, they're stillalking aboutheopeful forecasts e 1% or 1.2. the pessimiic forecasts are 7/10ths of a point. it will be a while. >> chaie: i've had peop come to this program and they exessed two ideas. paul kruggen. we need another stimus don't we. >>ign me up. everybody touched by noble laurte. he was agreat econost of the great depression. he formulated mise theory based on dression and saidconomic theory tells you there can't be unemployment. nouch thinas involuntary unemployment. he developed a theoryhat explained . >> chlie: that was to inve or stimulate the econo in order to deal with it. >> under certain conditio, such we're inow, such as we were in in the 1930's. monetary polic alone, lowing inrest rates, raising money supply would not be sufficient to induce thinvestment in the prive sector so the gornment d to

michael green, what do you think is the bigges challenge or the biggest obstacle thathe obama admintrationfaces in th regio if it sees the issues not only country specific but this more broad agenda of getting the counies to be more comtted partners of the.s. the global issues that are real of coern here? >we just talked aut and you just raised o set of issues which are these trnsnational challenges li climate change and proliferation. ere is a whole nother game play out in asia whh is it 19th century balan ofpower, how much willchina's rise weaken u.s.'s fluence, weaken democratic norms, and in that gamwe need iends and partners en as we cooperate with china, so the mo she does th japan, korea, ind, soviet union asia a emocracies, not just to cntain china but to sheur overall relationshi with china the stronger position we'll ben and that's a big part of this game as well on these trips. >> reporter: do yo age, trudy, this is a bigart of e game, it is countealancing china's rise ceainly over the last fe years and inflnce throughout asia? >> absolutely. india has said - its officials have

. >> rose: ministration or fact you will any >> admintration. it's an...i mean a place like harvard intensely corpate when i was there, intensely focused fund-raising, intensely focused on seezing every lt cent out of donors and building its global brand d so on. and at the same tim,n sfwernl campus politic- and eecially the fapl usty-- you ve the wackinesand madness ofhe american far left. so you have th odd mbiosis beeen a f-leftaculty and a ry corporate sort of.... >> rose: establishment? >> establishment rockefeer republican admintration. >> rose: like larry summers? >> well, larry summers as president was the embodiment of technically a libal democrat but clearly a sort of centrist business-foced heavily focuse on making harvard ar scieecentric institution, buying up huge tracks ofland for future campus and s on. >> rose: and what's wrong wh all at? >> well, a couple things. >> rose: making harvard a science-centric institution, what'srong with that? saying look, ience is the fure and we want to build a great univerty that makes sure 're a leader in s

obama and bush on this is that bush basical talked a bigg game but didn't do anythin the obama admintration has ven dropped the talk. they'r very festiious of what they wi do to someone se. 'll not tortureow but happily ske the hand of people who do torture. >> wait a minute, i think that's a little exeme. i think as wmentioned when w were he on the anniversary of tiananmen, the ministration did hav a qite strong statement that came out. it is a challen to balance the fact thatthere's an enorus. a things that they want to get done with the ussians. it's a crupt and -- repressive government there. i don't think that theywon't lift a hand to comply. ihink it's a little hah. >> i don't tnk it's harsh at al and i'm not say that they're wrong doing that. we mentioned tnanmen. we just had some sort of repl in an and what di the administratiodo? stay on e sidelines stay out of itand waited to see whoould win so they cod basically deal with wever won. that's a goodthing. that was the right thing do. >> do't think that's what happened. that is cold. these pple have ice in their veins andhat's what y

. >> what do you make of rahm emanuel implng at least that the admintration was not completely committedo a publ option andhere have been ports prior to that that the obama admistration was willing to mpromise, at least somewhere there >> i not going to dissect wat goes on in the white house, i can't answer that, and wh knows what the reports actuallyeard or wrote. i just wasn't there, s i can't comment on tht. >> re. >> but i think this is the president's proposal. the president gets it, it a trillion dollar propal and i think the senate has done a great job to white back the cost, t thisoes not work unless you give the amerin people a choice. the real battles as you said before is not between conservatives, moderates and liberals. it between theeah insurance dustry and the american people andnow we'll see wher congress comesdown. >> governor dean, some of your exceptionally nervou about with e obama negotiating position that maybe a public option is not necessari a top priority, are you cnced, as yousay, that it makes common sense that a public option is th only way to fix ths. are yoa

this admintration, though, has shown they are different. and some othe things that they propose to do actuly are getting do. i mean, yosee, you know, gm is in bankruptcy, chrysr is in bankruptcy the way th've done it is kind of steam rolled a lot thing that could happen re. where do you go if you want to spulate in oil? you've got tot go tohe equities or other aces around the world. bui think what's happening in the h is reflection of money going into the equities because they're afraid to ben the futures. >> exactly. >> strangelynough,ou know -- sorry. >> at the same time, are we a little bitoo early perhaps for this trade? and yes, the adminisation has jumped on a t things and yes, gm isoming out of the bankruptcy, but doesn't that speak to theankruptcy system the court as opposed to congre? congress has to get in and all them -- >> i think very ickly digress to t administration. just jammi down the plan they want to jam down. est matter about bankruptc law, doesn't matter about priority rights. who has absolute priity. none of that sms t

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we've seen, especially during theast admintration, lots of efforts by t government to wholesale e-collect iormation about americans frothird parties. and then, we needo make sure that there are her third parties don't have easaccess to that da, either. >> repter: but those in the data business say they're n worried. >> we operate under exactly e same laws that you doand if your infmation is so important you have to hide it from the government, we probabldon't want yoto give it to us nyway. >> the reality is tt there is tremendous lawsnd legal infrastcture globally to protect your privacy. >> reporter: so far, oud computi, while growing fast, is rgely used for basic business plications-- accounting, scduling, sales a so forth. it may be hile before more complicated d specific needs, like architectura design, appear in the clou >>lehrer: you can watch more speer's interview with google c.e.o. schmidt on our web si andn our education page, "nshour extra," find more aboutloud computing and a lesson plan about pricy issues. it's at newshour.pbs.org. now, an update from ghanistan and thu.s. mar

but, look, thi admintration, this president in partic wa has one eye on the economy, one eye on domesticssues. i think that'shy youaw vice president den in ohio today. on health care, on the economy, on ergy, on al of these issues, this administration is moving simultaneously to dress thesissues. any one o which would have consumed any other administrati. so i think there doing a pretty good job of that balancing act. oh, yeah, by the way, he's got to be at the g-8 today >> andindeed he does. we'll have all the latest from there as well as it delops. mike feldman, tha you. ken madden, thank yo d ad more fr chris cillizza on his bl. >>> coming up,ore on the conflicts on the floor. house minority whip james clyburn responding to republicans over presiden obama's agenda. (announcer) imine one eye drop soxceptional, itelieves seven symptoms new visine totality multi-symptom. now reduce the red bathe the dry and gritty; soothe the itch, irrited, burning and tery. visine totality. no other drop does more. acnts can happen, but with liberty mutuaua accident forgivene, an accident won't caus you

marketed by iers that offered corporate underwriters acce to obama admintration officials, memberof congressnd ashington post journalists, exchan for payments as high as $25,000 per dinner, o$250,000 for a sees of 11 dinners. three days later, weyuth wrote in hepaper: weymouth saithe flier was not approved by heor her newsroom itors and did not accuratel reflect what she had imind. "our miste was to suggest that we would hold and particate in an off-theecord dinner with journalists and power broke paid for by a spsor. we will not ganize such even." weymouth cancelled the fir so- called "son", which had been scheduled fojuly 21 with a focuon health care pocy. for his part, executive etor marcus brauci said the origil plan had been for the dinners to have ltiple sponsors to avoid the aparance that a single corporatentity could contl the dialogue. joining meow to look at the washington post situation ad beyond: geneva ovholser, director of the school of journalism the univerty of southern cafornia. she's a formerditor of the "des moines register" and rved as ombudsman of the washingn post. and

americans wouldt think you should he politicians making the decisions for t food and drug admintrationright? you know because that ug company mighjust be in that guys distct and wed rather have scntists and technicians king those decisions. >> solm: but despite the fed's efforts to be me open, 86 years after its inceptio some still feel its technians, and the strategy makerabove them, remaitoo hidden from public scrutiny. >>ehrer: a reminder: paul soan is taking your questions at his biness desk on ouweb site, ewshour.pbs.org. there aralso extended intervie with alice rivlin and alan blinder about the d's inpendence and attempts to be more transparent. >> lehrer:ext tonight, the arrests of sevenorth carolina men raise n fears about hogrown terrorism. ray suaz has our story. >> suarez: it was from ts home in a rural corr of north carolina at 39-year-old daniel boyd and a gup of alleged co- conspirars are accused of quietly planning iolent had." >> i spoke withim on several occasions and neveras there anidea that he was involved in something like that or could have the capacityo be invol

. >> ifill: democratsre demandingresh investigatn into wther the bush admintration failedo brief congress on the existence of a cret program to target, capture or kill al qaeda eratives. >> toave a massive program at is concealed fromhe leadersn congress isnot only inappropate, it could be illega >> ifill: news reports suggest the program construcd sholy after the september 11 attacks w never operational. nevereless, c.i.a. director leo panetta told lawmakers he shut the pgram down after he learned about it just lt month. this is not mollifyed man intelligence committ members. democrat dianne feitein said panetta told him that former vice president cheney ha orred the program kept secret. >> and i think that if the intellence committees had been briefed they cou have watched the pgram. they could have asked for regular reports on t program. they could have de judgmts about thprogram. as it went along. that w not the cas because we were kept in theark. that's somethinghat should never ever happen again. >> ifill: republica say suc investigationsould put the nation's intellence ageies at ri

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th obama admintration is counting o a sies of targeted govement investment and infrasucture, green technology, things lke this aut program to get jobs going in the short term and also to get the eonomy more coetitive in the long term. ut it's an open question a to wther thatill work >> reporter: and stua hoffman, y know, when you think scifically about jobs, all thos millions of js that have been lost in the last year or so, is there a -- is there a formu or a consensus as to how much theconomy has to grow in orr totart pushg t job numbers back up? >>or e unemployment number back dn, rathe >> yeah, i would say that rmula, it's not a magic secret but somewhere arnd 3% foreal gdp growt so it fell 1% in the spring arter. and that's w jobs continue to fall. i think it will be flat to up a little this quter. but i do tnk it will grow 3% nextear. that why i'm forecasting an upturnn bs. no a rapid one. but an uprn in jobs in th first quarter of next ye, continui through 2010. but aittedly, yes, we're tohe going to have a rea strong rebod in jobs. they w't go up awhere near as fast ashey've gone down

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>> well, the admintration was looking for an employment fire of 8% byid year and instea we're at 9%.jobless claimsave been ending wer. the move four-weekavage of initial state unemployment claims is at its lowest level in three months otherindicators such as the ism manufacturing employment index are now at their highest level since september. so what happens we overreacted to that report on thursday. >> although you're talking about numbers that are reaching a point where some people say, hey, you're no longer talking about a lagging indicator, you're talking about a leading indicator if you have 10% of the nation's workforce. how much of a repercussion and how much work could it make the economy? >> the expectati was that june'smployment rate would be 9.6%, higher than the aual 9.5%. when we look at thisata, let's not forget that may's reading on payroll payrol came in much better an ticipated. peaps we're looki a much better reading in may for june. i want to ad to this, we had a sty sell-off of equities wn 279%. corporate bonds holding nely for the year-to-date hh yield corporate

the drug enforcement admintration tells cnn it is assisting the lapd in executing a search warrant at that address. a spokesman for murray's warrant confirms that search there in houston. he said they were "caught off guard by this" but they are cooperating with investigators. >>> now, as you may know, dr. murray emerged as a central figure into michael jackson's death. the doctor was with the singer in his mansion when he collapsed and died last month. we, of course, are working on this breaking story. we'll bring you the latest information from houston as it comes into us. >>> tonight, president obama will make a primetime push for health care reform. are americans backing him up or not? that's the question. deputy political director stein houser has just-released poll numbers. this is interesting. what are folks telling the pollsters. >> americans are split when it comes to the job that barack obama is doing on health care specifically. the cnn poll of polls. we average the most recent national survey on how the president is dealing with health care. 47% approved and 44% disapprove