adolf eichmann, you described him as a technocrat within the nazi army. >> bureaucrat would work, too. >> paper pusher. >> essentially that's correct. >> he actually escaped after the war and took refuge in argentina under a difficult name because he was eventually captured by the mossad and put to death. the only man to be put to death by execution. "i called my men into my berlin office and formally took leave of them. if it has to be i told them i will gladly jump into my grave in the knowledge that 5 million enemies of the reich have already died like animals." doesn't sound like a pencil pusher. you called them courageous, even gallant, gallant? >> mm-hmm. >> al qaeda, the guys that flew those jets into the twin trade centers. >> yeah, now if you ask me do i actually believe that or am i still making the point? this is what it feels like when people who are sitting at computer consoles 1500 miles away firing cruise missiles into your cities are called heroes. >> you understand that al qaeda routinely kills civilians, this group isis routinely kills civilians. >> are you asking me