tonight, i listened to words taken out of the mouth of adolph hitler. ow is nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. thank you for being here, michael. >> of course, joy. >> i want to note the way that hitler was covered in the 1930s was this way. let me put up "the new york times." hitler driving force, fiery oratory was to woo men of all. energy in reserve. germany's deuce. and so there was the benign treatment of hitler. then you have hitler doing the holocaust. and americans respond by holding a rally, a nazi rally in madison square garden. your thoughts. >> well, that's exactly right. and the truth is that in february of 1939, this thing was to so-called celebrate george washington's birthday, if you can believe it. and the premise of this rally was that the air of george washington for americans was adolph hitler and that americans should not only support hitler but they should and just think of the echo of this in 2024. they should make america into a german-type fascist country that would be align with hitler and rule the world, instead

an emergency presser in order to put out the utterly despicable smear comparing donald trump to adolph hitler, utterly despicable. said donald trump is out for unchecked power and wants military like hitler had and it'll be the end of the constitution. not only is the charge despicable, it's unproven. it comes from a book written a couple of years ago by two new york times that quotes jason kelly and kelly has been repeating the charge, no one has been able to corroborate it. it's a tragic figure here. he's a patriot, retired marine corp. general who was dismissed by then president trump and has been a source of incredible vitriol ever since then. general kelly has completely lost his way. look it, i was in the oval office hundreds of times and never heard mr. trump talk about hitler or natzi generals. writing in the new york post today miranda devine said the left put a target on donald trump's back with the natzi adolph hitler sm smears and in other words kamala could well be inis it a gating another assassination attempt on trump's life. i'm going to bet virtually the entire country knows

the retired general, of course, told the paper that the former president repeatedly praised adolph hitler and now meet the very definition of a fascist. here is some of what the vice president had to say in remarks she delivered outside her residence, the naval observatory in washington. >> it is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous that donald trump would invoke adolph hitler, the man who's responsible for the deaths of 6 million jews and hundreds of thousands of americans. all of this is further evidence for the american people of who donald trump really is. this is a window into who donald trump really is. from the people who know him best, from the people who worked with him side by side in the oval office and in the situation room. donald trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable. and in a second term people like john kelly would not be there to be the guardrails against his propensity and his actions. those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there, and no longer be there to rein him in. so the bottom line is this. we know what donal

it is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous that donald trump would invoke adolph hitler, the man who is responsible for the death of $6000000.00 jews. and hundreds of thousands of americans. i saw, or hillary clinton on one of the american ed folks. and they were showing some trump campaign footage, and she literally said, we've seen these pictures here like 1939 nazi germany. emmys. you literally courting older trump support has not series. now what do you know about m s nbc and that segment as well? that wouldn't be the 1st time that we saw that kind of rhetoric on this and b c because the network recently had another segment where they took footage from donald trump sunday rally at madison square garden and compared it to a 1939 gathering of nazis at that same venue by adding and footage of that event from history. and then of course like harris, the host of this program, jonathan k parts. i said the same thing that donald trump is a fascist, on live television. let's take a listen. donald trump's rally at madison square garden comes days after his own former chief of staff we

she pointed out what adolph hitler was responsible for, the death of 6 million jews and said donald trumpne loyal to him and not the u.s. constitution. listen to what she said. >> this is further evidence for the american people of who donald trump really is. this is a window into who donald trump really is from the people who know him best, from the people who worked with him side by side in the oval office and situation room. donald trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable. in a second term people like john kelly would not be there to be the guardrails against his propensities and his actions. those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there. >> reporter: that last point that donald trump, if elected, re-elected, would be someone able to use the military and use his powers in ways he didn't in the first term because he had people like john kelly in his administration is the closing message of vice president harris. she'll be here in delaware county taking questions in a town hall. on monday she was in pennsylvania where she was making the poi

. >> kelly also confirmed other reports that trump repeatedly spoke highly of adolph hitler. according to "the atlantic," not confirmed by nbc news, trump made other comments about hitler, according to two people in the white house. saying, quote, i need the generals that hitler had, people that totally loyal to him. with us now senior national politicking reporter jonathan allen and yamiche alcindor. jonathan, what's the reaction in trump world to the bombshell articles? >> reporter: we could put it on the screen, steven chung said that john kelly, quote, unquote, beclowned himself in his job, obviously the rift between donald trump and john kelly pretty big. kelly has been telling this story and others for quite a while now. you can also see in that statement an accusation that kelly is suffering from trump derangement syndrome. you know, this story about hitler and the generals, obviously the time at which you were adoring hitler is -- the way that his generals acted is not as important as the substance of what's being said. peter baker and susan glasser had that in their

kelly says former president donald trump suggested that not see leader adolph hitler, quote, did some good things. it is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous. >> that donald trump would invoke adolf hitler. the man. >> who is responsible for the deaths of 6 million jews >> kelly also says trump meets the general definition of a fashion and demands loyalty to himself over the constitution. harris says this shows what americans can expect from a second trump presidency. he wants unchecked power. the question. >> in 13 days will be what do the american people want? trump is holding 2 events in georgia today. the trump campaign denied the reported comments saying kelly had been cloned himself with these deep on stories. he was fabricating. >> the campaign continue to make its case against harris. >> we are on a crusade to give the american people the leadership that it deserves. >> that was reshad hudson reporting tonight. vice president harris is taking part in a town hall in pennsylvania outside philadelphia for president trump held a rally in battleground georgia. >> closer to hom

. >>> donald trump facing new blow back after two reports saying he admirably invoked adolph hitler, vice president harris jumping on the remarks, calling trump unfit for office. how the former president and his campaign are responding this morning. >>> and with the 2024 race in the final stretch, we head to battleground pennsylvania where the battle over fracking is splitting energy workers over who to vote for. >>> and ever wish you could take paid leave to take care of a sick pet? a new bill in new york city is trying to do just that. it's thursday, october 24th, "early today" starts right now. good morning. i'm frances rivera. breaking overnight, the boeing strike is extended. five weeks after first walking off the job, 32,000 boeing machinists rejected the company's proposed contract by a vote of nearly two-thirds. that proposal would have seen wage increase 35% over four years. the union wants a 40% increase. this setback comes as boeing reported a $6 billion quarterly loss, the biggest since 2020. ceo kelly ortburg said reaching a deal is a priority to get the company back on

talk about this reporting that donald trump allegedly said he wanted that kind of generals that adolph hitler adolf hitler did. and what do you make of all of this? shocking or is it? >> trump has been open about the admiration for dictators. his public behavior has shown that and that diplomacy. there are meetings with the leaders of north korea time and time again that showed all that. i think the stuff kelly talked about is the idea that trump said to him, you know, hitler, they did do some good things. and how kelly, basically had to explain to trump why saying that was so problematic. and why everything hitler did was as part of his racist efforts to do the worst things in humanity. and that thing i found most interested about it is that trump would stop talking about it. and they would end that conversation. but trump would bring it up in other times. so it wasn't like this just came up once and kelly provided him with the explanation and trump sort of learned wow, i shouldn't say that. he brought it up again and again to kelly. it wasn't something that just came up once, they came up m

because in 1939 more than 20000 supporters of a different fascist leader adolph hitler packed the garden for a so called pro america rally against that backdrop of history. donald trump, the man who was threatened to use the military against opponents. he calls enemies from within the west, threatened to use milton use of troops to quell what he says are lawless cities, and to use the streets to carry out mass deportations of immigrants is once again turning madison square garden into a staging ground for extremism. the anointed democratic candidate made her so called closing argument at a rally near the white house and just a few metro stops away. oh wow. in crime is raging through washington d. c. it is one of the most dangerous cities in america, but come on, didn't talk about crime. and tonight, speech and nations capital is also struggling with rising homelessness. and a record high cost of living complet didn't say much about inflation or the highest housing crisis. she didn't deal with for 4 years. political polarization, so called journalists quoting at the 1st width of an attemp

because in 1939 more than 20000 supporters of a different fashion liter adolph, hitler packed the garden for a so called pro america rally against that backdrop of history. donald trump is once again turning madison square garden into a staging ground for extremism. a while, meanwhile, cnn didn't quite get the so they were expecting when they tried to grill the republican vice presidential nominee on the j. d von to ended up doing the roasting . well, sitting down with hose to jakes happens. ask yourself a basic question about network integrity. you guys talked about the russia hoax non stop yesterday, i wasn't kidding. you happy i was investigating it. we so we would hope that we were covered then. so you took the words of a named f b i. agents and put them on your network as if they were the gospel truth, you did it again and again of your, of your network. what believe the donald trump is wide near proven conspired in 2016 now that was totally in preposterously false. no. well, that's what you do, that it's false. following and go to trans 2016 presidential victory. the democratic pol

because a 1939 more than 20000 supporters of a different fascist leader adolph hitler packed the garden for a so called pro america rally or rally were speakers voice anti semitic rhetoric from a stage draped with nazi banners against that backdrop of history. donald trump is once again turning madison square garden into a staging ground for extremism. guys, just as the owner string that can actually get away was saying this kind of stuff on, on tv these days. the 20000 or more people in madison square, the 75000 outside in the streets and liberals left the new york dawn. yeah, absolutely. and with so many people, i mean seeing that kind of rhetoric, it's on surprising that it's face to some serious criticism like trumps running mate j, the vance. he said that this sort of liberal name calling is really just a replacement for having actual policy proposals. and solutions to america's problems. and you know what kimball harris and her team woke up this morning and decided to compare it to they decided to compare us to literal nazis for gathering and madison square garden and celebrating

. >> to round out the claims that he's and adolph hitler sympathizer the vice president is refusing tor directly a question about whether or not he is prejudiced against jewish people. >> do you view trump as anti-semitic? >> i believe donald trump is a danger to the world and the security of america. >> he is casting himself as a protector of israel. do you believe you would be more pro israel and donald trump? >> i believe donald trump is dangerous. >> reporter: it will be interesting tonight to see how that fits into the program because it is unclear battleground state voters are going to vote based on donald trump compared to the top ten, top 20 issues that traditionally decide elections, things like the economy and immigration. neil: it is fascinating that no republican has gone on to get into the hitler stuff, the fascist stuff, some go far as to say that the kind of stuff he says even though donald trump argued he never said any of that but they don't take it on or go through any of that. they move on, talk about the economy and present day issues but that seems to be the republ

damning reporting in "the new york times" and the atlantic claiming trump spoke positively about adolph hitleranted generals like hitler. trump says that never happened. >> reporter: the atlantic is reporting you wanted generals like hitler. is that something you said? >> it's nothing i've ever said. it's a rag that made up stories. it's a failing magazine. right before the election -- it's a failing magazine. >> reporter: you said hitler -- [ inaudible ] >> never said it. >> with this election neck and neck the harris campaign is seizing on general kelly's comments and amplifying them in a new ad. >> he admires people who are dictators. he said hitler did some good things too. >> if he was left to his own devices would he be a dictator? >> he would love to be. >> when somebody is the president, the authority is total. >> i'm kamala harris and i approve this message. >> with us now matthew dowd, an msnbc contributor who served as chief strategist to the bush campaign. matthew, is this the ad and issue that could motivate soft republicans who don't like trump, but are hesitant to back harris? >

four-star general confirmed that while donald trump was president he said he wanted generals like adolph hitler had. donald trump said that because he does not want a military that is loyal to the united states constitution. he wants a military that is loyal to him. he wants a military who will be loyal to him personally, one that will obey his orders even when he o tells them to break t law or abandon their oath to the constitution of the united states. o in just the past week donald trump has repeatedly called his fellow americans the enemy from within and even said that he would use the united states military to go after american citizens. this is a window into who donald trump really is. from the people who know him best, from the people who work with p him side by side in the oval office and in the situation room.om and it is clear from john kelly's words that donald trump is someone who i, quote, certainly falls into the general definition of fascist. so the bottom line is this, we know what donald trump wants. he wantst unchecked power. the question in 13 days will be what do the america

interests in henry ford had multiple factories in germany, and it also received the german cross from adolph hitler lindbergh also had powerful allies on capitol hill and this was not a purely issue. a democratic senator, burton wheeler from montana was one of the biggest spokespeople opposing fdr. his policy approach, isolationist republican robert taft, and many of, you know, hamilton fish, the third who represented district right here he was fdr, congressman, and he well, let's just say they hated each other with with a passion that goes back many years. so wanted lindbergh to be the republican candidate opposing roosevelt in the 1940 election. but really did not want to hold public. he wanted to maintain his and even his other isolationist groups wanted to drag him in. he said no, you know, i will simply speak my truth, but i don't to be entangled in that. so the nominated wendell willkie, a former democrat, boyish good looks, the shock, unruly hair. he had a real charisma on, the campaign trail he had opposed fdr, new deal policies, and he was a very serious contender a gallup poll showed that

interests in henry ford had multiple factories in germany, and it also received the german cross from adolph hitler lindbergh also had powerful allies on capitol hill and this was not a purely issue. a democratic senator, burton wheeler from montana was one of the biggest spokespeople opposing fdr. his policy approach, isolationist republican robert taft, and many of, you know, hamilton fish, the third who represented district right here he was fdr, congressman, and he well, let's just say they hated each other with with a passion that goes back many years. so wanted lindbergh to be the republican candidate opposing roosevelt in the 1940 election. but really did not want to hold public. he wanted to maintain his and even his other isolationist groups wanted to drag him in. he said no, you know, i will simply speak my truth, but i don't to be entangled in that. so the nominated wendell willkie, a former democrat, boyish good looks, the shock, unruly hair. he had a real charisma on, the campaign trail he had opposed fdr, new deal policies, and he was a very serious contender a gallup poll showed that

star general, confirmed that while donald trump was president, he said he wanted generals like adolph hitler had. he said that because he does not want a military that is loyal to the united states constitution. he wants a military that is loyal to him. he wants a military who will be loyal to him personally. >> to complete the claim that donald trump sympathizes with hitler, the vice president is now also refusing to answer directly a question about whether or not trump is prejudiced against jewish people. >> do you believe donald trump is anti-semitic? >> i believe donald trump is a danger to the well-being and security of america. >> he has said that he is casting himself as a protector of israel. would you be more pro-israel than donald trump? >> i believe donald trump is dangerous. >> it will be very interesting to see how that fits into tonight's program. it will be the vice president with barack obama, with bruce springsteen. we've seen people showing up already for this program about ten hours before it starts. dana. >> dana: thank you for getting us going today, peter. >> bill: let'

it is so offensive to compare donald trump to adolph hitler who murdered millions of people.ad of teaching the world the holocaust was real, they are trying to equate this guy, who has for four years the president who didn't bring us into war. we were signing peace deals in the middle east and you want to say he is like hitler? are you kidding? it's the same party that also called mitt romney hitler and called dick cheney hitler and then they accepted dick cheney's endorsement like hey it was a feather in their cap. they are so -- at the heart of this, harris, kamala harris has got nothing. she has no issue to run on. it is the only thing she can do is demonize the other opponent. >> harris: this idea of hating trump worked potentially in 2020. and hillary clinton tried to just hate all his voters with the deplorables line. why is the the party of so-called joy going back to hate? do they see something that has worked with that strategy? >> negative campaigning everybody says they don't like it but it always works. that's why you see it. >> harris: this is more than negative

if we were also believe that donald trump was going to invoke adolph hitler when he gets an office, any reasonable person, any intelligent person would understand there's a separation of powers appeared the president is limited and he is able to be checked. i want to add a quick note to my guy there in georgia. we talk about who is prepared for the presidency went on the republican party this person is the former president. this person has signed more democratically led bills into law than kamala harris. and there has been a war that has been stopped, that has been initiated by donald trump. we stopped the war in afghanistan. biden's administration handled the withdrawal but the initial stop came from donald trump speaking to the founder of the taliban and i feel like that power and the pressure of being shot at, the pressure with being shot. there is no doubt on the republican side of things a person can work under pressure. as far as everything that is going on during the campaign. but when we talk about how we want to be more knowledgeable about who we vote for, the biggest thing tha

kelly says former president donald trump suggested that not see leader adolph hitler, quote, did some good things. it is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous. >> that donald trump would invoke adolf hitler. the man. >> who is responsible for the deaths of 6 million jews >> kelly also says trump meets the general definition of a fashion and demands loyalty to himself over the constitution. harris says this shows what americans can expect from a second trump presidency. he wants unchecked power. the question. >> in 13 days will be what do the american people want? trump is holding 2 events in georgia today. the trump campaign denied the reported comments saying kelly had been cloned himself with these deep on stories. he was fabricating. >> the campaign continue to make its case against harris. >> we are on a crusade to give the american people the leadership that it deserves. >> all right. that was reshad hudson reporting for us tonight. vice president kamala harris is taking part in a town hall in pennsylvania and former president donald trump is holding a rally in georgia. meanw

kelly says former president donald trump suggested that not see leader adolph hitler, quote, did somely troubling and incredibly dangerous. >> that donald trump would invoke adolf hitler. the man. >> who is responsible for the deaths of 6 million jews >> kelly also says trump meets the general definition of a fashion and demands loyalty to himself over the constitution. harris says this shows what americans can expect from a second trump presidency. he wants unchecked power. the question. >> in 13 days will be what do the american people want? trump is holding 2 events in georgia today. the trump campaign denied the reported comments saying kelly had been cloned himself with these deep on stories. he was fabricating. >> the campaign continue to make its case against harris. >> we are on a crusade to give the american people the leadership that it deserves. >> and later tonight, vice president harris will take part in a cnn town hall in the crucial state of pennsylvania. and former president trump is currently holding a rally in georgia. just seen. >> reshad, thank you. and the 2024 el

former trump chief of staff john kelly says trump made positive comments about adolph hitler. retired general kelly says the former president to just did that. the not to leader, quote, did some good things. kelly also said trump meets the general definition of a fast this and demands loyalty to himself over the constitution. the trump campaign denied the reported comments. harris says this shows what americans can expect from a second trump presidency. it's deeply troubling and >> incredibly dangerous that donald trump would invoke adolf hitler. the man who is responsible for the deaths of 6 million jews >> trump has 2 events in georgia today and tonight, harris will take part in the town hall in the crucial state of pennsylvania. the u.s. postal service says it's working around the clock to ensure mail in ballots are delivered before election day. deadlines. our dc's raquel martin has the latest from washington. >> as election day draws near leaders from the u.s. postal service urging voters not to delay million. their ballots returned their ballot at least 7 days prior to t

"the atlantic" reports that as president, trump said he needed the type of generals that adolph hitlerantime, "the new york times" spoke to trump's longest-serving chief of staff, john kelly, who not only confirmed that trump praised issue, but says that trump is a fascist full stop. >> certainly the formal president is in the far right area, he's certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators. he has said that. so, he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure. >> nbc's shaquille brewster is following the trump campaign in georgia. also with us, founder of the so what sub stack, and former democratic congresswoman donna edwards. a flurry of headlines questioning trump's fitness for office and two high-level officials going on the record to call trump a fascist. how is trump and his campaign responding? >> reporter: good morning to you. we have not heard from former president trump yet. we're definitely monitoring that social media feed to see if he's going to respond directly. but we are hearing denials from his campaign. it's not just the comments

>>kelly says former president donald trump suggested that not see leader adolph hitler, quote, did some good things. it is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous that donald trump would invoke adolf hitler. the man who is responsible. >>for the deaths of 6 million jews >>kelly also says trump meets the general definition of a fashion and demands loyalty to himself over the constitution. harris says this shows what americans can expect from a second trump presidency. he wants unchecked power. the question. >>in 13 days will be what do the american people want? trump held 2 events in georgia. the trump campaign denied the reported comments saying kelly had been cloned himself with these debe on stories. he was fabricating georgia republican congresswoman and trump ally marjorie taylor. greene defended the former president. there is only one regime. >>that has turned the federal government against its political enemies. and that is the biden kamala harris regime. >>power while campaigning in georgia, former president trump continued to make his case against theres. hopefully we fix our

and that trump commented more than once that adolph hitler did some good things, too.esources and expertise if mr. trump were to prematurely declare victory on election night before all the votes are counted, like he did in 2020, a race he lost. her campaign's closing argument casts a potential second trump term as dangerous. that's a case former president obama made on her behalf on the campaign trail and in my conversation with her, the vice president also said america is ready for the first woman and woman of color to be president. you've been reluctant to lean into it, to talk about the historic nature of your candidacy on the campaign trail. why is that? >> well, i'm clearly a woman. i don't need to point that out to anyone. the point that most people really care about is, can you do the job, and do you have a plan to actually focus on them? >> reporter: both candidates now relentlessly focusing on t abercrombie and fitch has been arrested on sex trafficking and interstate prostitution charges. mike jeffries was arrested yesterday along with two associates.florida

he talked about his i finty for adolph hitler. loyalty above the constitution.talked about donald trump just not understanding fundamental american values. what was exceptional to you? what stood out? we heard criticism from general kelly of donald trump before. but what stood out to you this time? >> i think the most important thing about it was the fact that we could hear the audio. i think that as reporters we run into different obstacles in terms of telling a story. and when we think that there's an important story, we have to continue to look for new and different ways to tell it. and i think the most important thing here is that you can hear kelly himself, in his own word, expressing it. and people can hear it for themselves. i think, to your point, a lot has been written about kelly. a lot has been written about his relationship with trump, about what he has seen. but i thought that the most important thing was to capture him actually saying that. and that was not logistically that wasn't a hard thing to do. but to get kelly to that point was, you know, a

[question inaudible] from adolph mittler himself -- adolf hitler himself -- steve: elon musk, tulsi gabbard was a democrat, robert f. kennedy was a democrat. elon musk was a very progressive democrat. they've all become awakened by the maga movement. today, i think he is one of the strongette supporters of the maga movement. he's gone through an awakening that i think very few have come. i totally disagree with many of his positions, particularly about the chinese communist party and others. but as an american, he has done -- i think something very smart. and that is put money in back of grassroots organizations and people to do something simple. and hang on, and that's to get out the vote here in the 2024 election. reporter: someone who at that take from adolf hitler -- steve: he has gone through a great aweighingening. and if you talked to him, he has gone through a great awakening and part of that awakening is understanding the power of the maga movement and the power of grassroots america. thanks. yes, sir. >> please identify yourself. reporter: politico. i'm not sure if you saw but the