adp is not a perfect indicator and even more questions this time around because in december, adp lookst private pay rolls. in december a lot of accounting issues so even the guy who runs adp told us today it may not be a perfect indicator this time around. doesn't have 100% confidence, but we did seat futures pick up a little bit. down 40 but were down 70 earlier. >> that has to be their highest number they have put out in a couple of years. >> yeah. >> literally, chuck, when i saw that number my chin kind of dropped and went, whoa, a much better number. >> sure they don't have an extra number in here. >> cross our fingers, see what happens tomorrow. that's a biggy. >> how about that. becky quick, cnbc. >> see you. >> talk to you tomorrow. >>> well, it's officially an election year, did you know, that and president obama is making it clear he's ready to rumble kicking off that re-election strategy we heard about about going after congress. a daily look over the fight of recess appointments when the senate is in proforma session. that's coming up next. plus, rick perry's reassessment la

meanwhile, adp said 325,000 jobs were added to payrolls last month, well above what was expected. that could bode well for the labor department's employment report. the december numbers come out tomorrow. the encouraging jobs news helped offset investor worries about european banks. the dow slipped almost three points, but the nasdaq rose 21 and the s&p 500 added 3.5 points. despite today's mixed market returns, 2012 could be a good year for investors as u.s. stocks post double-digit returns. that's one of bob doll's predictions on his annual list of ten predictions. bob is the chief equity strategist at blackrock. he joins us now. hi bob, happy new year to you. >> same to you, susie. >> susie: you have a very interesting list, so let's go straight to it. looking at the global economy with your first prediction, euro goes regression, europe struggles but china and india grow contributing more than hw'# what's your thinking there and does the u.s. avoid recession? >> we think it does. it's a year of divergence, susie where the u.s., one of the few economies that accelerated its gro

adp doesn't always synch up with the reports. retailers reporting sales numbers from december most of them reporting decent numbers. we are getting reports of a couple of local chains, as well, gap and roth stores. another tough month for the gap down 4% across the three major chains, worse than expected. ross saw 9% gains, more than doubling what analysts were expecting for ross. stock market unable to capitalize on the job market picture. unfortunately, there are renewed concerns about the european debt crisis and how banks there can handle that crisis going forward. so we have some red numbers out there. dow down 115. nasdaq down 16. s&p down 11. >> still time, though. still time. >> reporter: plenty of time. we'll see what happens. >>> thank you. a photographer pioneer preparing to file for bankruptcy. eastman kodak is expected to file for chapter 11 in the coming week if it's unable to sell some of its digital imaging patents. their stocks tumbled to an all- time low of just 48 cents a share on wednesday. hard to believe. it

adp, private payroll processing company. process those paychecks.that they think 325,000 jobs were created this december. most economists tell me it wasn't that much, but maybe 150,000 jobs were created in december. when you look at the path of job creation over the past year, kyra, i have a chart that can show you how we added all those jobs in 2011. in some cases not enough to keep up with population growth but still all the positive direction. that last column on the right is the forecast for december. we'll get that number tomorrow. things are slowly getting better. not gangbusters but getting better. people who recently are unemployed are reporting they're finding an easier time getting a job. people out of work for six months or longer are saying it's deadly out there. small businesses and service jobs, that's where you're seeing the action. small businesses starting to hire. >> good news. >> thanks. >>> six police officers shot while serving a search warrant in ogden, utah. we're talking with a lieutenant about what went wrong after this. ? n

reports that employers added 325,000 jobs in december mostly among smaller businesses according to adp's great. >>gerri: it is. but there is more good news. calm down the calm down. so the number is down 15,000. people filing first-time unemployment, down 15,000 to 372,000. but you take the full week average and that is what the geeks do, the number is 373,000, below 400,000, very good news. that is the lowest in three years. we love to see that. the trend is in the right direction. it is not perfect but getting better. the big thing with the unemployment numbers the jobless rate is worse than it was supposed to be at 8.7 percent, but 150,000 people and an increase if that number, there, and i have to tell you because of the adp number a lot of analysts of making the numbers lock better so we can get a surprise on the positive side tomorrow morning. friday. >>shepard: mixed news on retail. >>gerri: a lot of discounting going on. if you did not discount you did not do well. macy's had a bang up december 6.2 percent gain in sales. limited was 7 percent. and costco up 7 percent but analys

. >> the government jobs report follows several wall is of good news, a payroll company adp said private companies at a 325,000 jobs in december and small businesses are bouncing back. the manufacturing sector is growing and consumer confidence is getting stronger. >> we need to have been going -- growing at 200,000 per month that it is nowhere near enough to make up for all the ground we lost in 2008 and 2009. >> the white house is welcoming the december jobs report calling it further evidence the economy is healing after the worst economic downturn since the great depression. president obama and his team cautioned people not to read too much into one report. >>> turning now to vote 2012 -- we are just four days away from the new hampshire primary. a newly released poll shows mitt romney with a big lead over his gop rivals. 44% of republicans and independents say they would vote for mitt romney if the primary were held today. meantime all the candidates are sharpening their attacks against the president and each other. >> this president does not understand how this economy works. his to

going by the private sector jobs numbers compiled by adp and weekly jobless claims numbers that came out better than market consensus, the scene looks to be set up for a positive december jobs payroll numbers due out later today in the u.s. let's look at the opening levels this friday morning in tokyo. the nikkei and topix are marginally lower. they may trade ahead of u.s. jobs data i mentioned, we will focus on energy related stocks following rising tension in oil markets and possible embargo on iranian oil shipments, which is effecting market sentiment. japan is under pressure to go along with u.s. sanctions, and the eu also is going to be deciding that later this month. so that puts a little challenge for japanese companies which are trying to find newer sources of energy, such as liquefied natural gas and shale oil and gas. so we're going to focus on mitsubishi, some trading companies in japan, and others among the sectors, but also let's not forget the banking sector as continued issues regarding eurozone debt problems continue to hangover markets there, and also authorities are

we are working with adp as a peril provider and part of their services include human resources in. significantly less cost than we are paying lgs now. >> in the two resolutions subject to mental health care, one is offering the ability of employees from the tjpa, passing with prior to retirement. is that a customary thing for calpers to provide? >> it is up to agencies that our contract with calpers. an optional benefit. it does not cost the agency anything, but is a nice thing for employees to know, should anything happen before they were eligible for retirement, that their family could continue to purchase health coverage. again, it does not cost the agency anything. families are responsible for medical premiums. director kim: any other questions? simenon, roll call on item. -- seeing none, roll call on item. >> we need a motion. >> seconded. >> [roll call] item 12 is approved. item 13. approving the minutes of the november 10, 2011 meeting. the members of the public wanted to comment on the item. >> motion to approve. >> second. >> no members of the public wanted to comment. all

according to payroll processor adp, private sector companies added about 325,000 workers in december. >>> later this morning, soon after those unemployment figures are released, president obama visits the consumer financial protection bureau. on wednesday, the president defied the senate and named richard cordray to lead the bureau. cordray, the former attorney general in ohio, says he'll ignore the political controversy and focus on consumers. >>> a bomb in southern afghanistan has killed four nato service members this morning. another service member was killed in a separate bombing earlier in the day. nine coalition troops have been killed in afghanistan since the beginning of the new year. >>> now to politics and tuesday's new hampshire primary. mitt romney's rivals are taking dead aim at his conservative credentials. they will have more opportunity this weekend when the gop presidential contenders meet back-to-back debates. they will meet in the back-to-back debates saturday night and again on sunday morning. meanwhile, there are questions about the final vote count in the iowa ca

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also tomorrow, payroll processing firm adp reports january jobs numbers. and hilary kramer returns as our "street critique" guest. there's still time to email your questions to streetcritique@nbr.com. new claims tonight that china's trade practices are killing jobs in the u.s. auto sector. three reports released today by the alliance for american manufacturing claim over a million and a half jobs in the u.s. auto parts industry are at risk. the reason-- china offers auto parts makers illegal subsidies, rigs its tax laws and manipulates its currency. combined, these assaults have allegedly cost more than 400,000 u.s. jobs since the year 2000. >> tom: apple headed across the pond to find its new top retail executive. c.e.o. tim cook has tapped john browett for the job. browett ran britain's second largest electronics retailer. now, he'll be in charge of developing apple's retail strategy as the maker of iphones and ipads expands its stores around the globe. browett will be on the job come april, reporting directly to the apple c.e.o. >> susie: tonight's comm

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new numbers from payroll giant adp show the u.s. added 325,000 private sector jobs in december. while the numbers may be inflated by seasonal issues, other indicators are positive, too. u.s. companies say they are planning fewer lay-offs, the lowest number since june. new unemployment claims are down for the best four-week average in two and a half years. >> fewer people are being fired. more people are being hired. >> reporter: in large part that's because while segments of the private sector are hiring, amazon, td bank, chrysler and jpmorgan chase among those adding jobs, government jobs continue to dry up. >> we are seeing state and local cuts of teachers, policemen and firemen. we are now going to see in 2012 the military really begin to see lots of job cutting. >> reporter: and so while companies like dollar general are building new stores and stoking enthusiasm, boeing this week announced plans to close a plant in kansas that's built airplanes since 1929. >> this is a very sad day for wichita. >> reporter: a victim of military spending cuts. >> nobody is ready to sound the

adp will release its report on private sector hiring and we'll get a tally of first-time claims for unemployment benefits last week. all of that leads up to the government's big monthly jobs reading due out before friday's opening bell. that's a wrap of the day on wall street. i'm alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. >>> here's how the markets are set to move when trading starts on wall street this thursday. off by about a third to half a percent for really pretty much across the board. dow off by 0.4%. andrew? >>> we've all heard about the rising cost of living. coming up, we'll tell you about the rising cost of dying, particularly here in hong kong. in a city where space is always been a premium, finding a final resting place for a loved one isn't cheap. that's just ahead.  >>> welcome back. live from hong kong and here in -- hong kong and london, you're watching "world business today." this is a city where land is very limited. there's not much for the living, let alone the dead. as pauline chiou explains, it's resulted in a market for unlicensed funeral parlors offering

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we have the weekly jobless claims figures as well as reports adp a few hours from now.are looking out for possible stock cuts. pepsico is considering laying off about its 4000 workers and ended its 401k a matching program. a pay freeze is also among options pepsico is considering as it struggles to increase profits. yesterday boeing announced it is closing down in kansas plant. more than 2000 workers will be out of work by the end of 2013. finally, iphone sales are still red hot for verizon. the finance chief of the company said that it sold 4 million of them in the last quarter, that's more than double the number from the first quarter. linda bell reporting for abc 7 news. back to you. >> thank you. >>> 5:53. if you would like to take part in our latest facebook giveaway, there's still time. >> this week's prize is an ipad 2. you can enter. if you get your friends involves, you can get extra chances to enter. 4:00 tomorrow is the deadline. we will announce the winner on abc 7 news at 5:00. >>> 26 degrees in haymarket this >>> have you ever tried peanut butter on a hamb

big headline came from adp. that's the company that processes payrolls.,000 jobs were added in december and it is good news because, sure, it is double what was expected, it is the best in a year but the reality is it is a little questionable because there may be some distortions about some holiday hiring. we got an upbeat report on the number of people filing first-time jobless claims and then you see definite improvement. look at the past five years, in 2007 the recession started. we added just a half a million jobs. 2008, 2009, the job market fell off a cliff there. you saw some improvement in 2010, and now we're seeing even better than we saw in 2 -- we add 1.9 million jobs in 2011. >> what do you think it will mean for tomorrow's jobs report from the government? should we expect a big gain? >> i'll tell you this. take that 325,000 private payrolls, those jobs added, take that number with a grain of salt. the reality is the adp reports, government report we'll get tomorrow, don't always match up because of those seasonal adjustments that i mentioned.

he can take some heart, though, adp reports that 325,000 private sector jobs were added in december. that's nearly twice as many as analysts had been predicting. and at a time when republicans are fighting the influence of what they call big government, this obviously is a notable success. this is the number and this is why, charles, obviously the markets in asia fairly quiet today. not a lot of volume once again. there hasn't been much volume all week. this is the number everyone is looking at. >> okay. let's have a look at more broadly at the jobs market and employment in the united states, because the once-thriving finance and real estate sectors are struggling to rebound from the economic crisis that really has been with us since 2008 if not before. however, there is a secretarier that is faring better than ever. american students are turning to technology as a means of making big money. and taech education is a growth industry in itself as maggie lake reports. >> reporter: how are you? 21-year-old zack sims is one of the masterminds between code academy. >> i think we knew progr

i am still adp out there doing 100 things but all lot are sitting in this space. >> fritz campaign finance system going next? and what seems to ingersoll many people on both sides? >> i hope it goes to where i hope it will go to get tainted money out of the system. that will remain to be seen that depends on the american people pushing members to do the right thing. campaign finance is a hot button. i am a conservative and always happen but i work with liberals and progressives who have saved you on the corruption side. we need to see where they can agree we will not agree on public financing campaigns but we would from special interest to give money. we need to push those areas and hopefully solve the problem together because if something is just the right or left it will not go through. >> host: on that note i will say thank you very much. >> guest: thank you for having me. >> cleamons and close seven members of the professional air-traffic controllers organization added walked off their job with the faa august 3rd 5th 5th, 1981, one issued analyst fifth noted their strike was in the mak

>>neil: big news for job seeker today, adp says the companies add more than a quarter of a million jobsast month. that would be the biggest bunch in -- bump in a year, does that mean that is good for the president to keep his job? herman cain is here. what do you think? >>guest: no. here is why. i had the bad habit of answering your questions. look at that report questions, 273,000 were service sector jobs in december when service industries like the restaurant industry add more people because of the holiday rush. wait until we get the report in february about january. that will be a better. >>neil: you might be right. but the administration is arguing and we have chatted about this before, we are seeing a steady pickup. hardly robust, and, by the way, if you are writing home about it, you have a problem, but the white house is saying, looking better, whoing better. months and months and months of this, looking better and the president will look better. >>guest: i don't believe all of this spend about looking better, looking better, looking better. i am not calling anyone a liar but the

. >>> tune in tomorrow at 8:15 eastern for adp report for january.are expecting a job count of 180,000. at 10:00 eastern we have two numbers out. december construction spending. we're expecting up half of 1% versus our last look at up 1.2%. and ism. we're looking for that to move from the last look at 53.9 expectations. 54.5. tune in. >>> paperwork to take facebook public could hit the market as soon as wednesday. we'll have full coverage of what the ipo means for wall street and friends and investors in between. >>> tomorrow look for january auto sales to come in at a pace of roughly 3.5 million vehicles. but the real question is what the auto makers see for the rest of the year. >>> all right. one more thing to watch. how much will it cost you to host your super bowl party this year. jane welles has been notching on the numbers. hi, jane. >> hi. this election year let's talk about something important. is your super bowl party better off now than it was four years ago? the answer, no. the biggest jump is in beef prices. the american restaurant assoc

tomorrow with adp, we're looking for significantly less, at 325,000. and many believe that the fourth quarter was just a barn burner, as everybody was in the holiday spirit. but that's dissipating so quickly. >> rick, thank you so much. rick santelli with the latest. jon fortt, we'll check in later with the amazon numbers. the dow jones industrial average down about 24 points. nasdaq positive. >> hope you can stick around, because we've got a big show still ahead here on the "closing bell." >>> coming up, stocks posting solid gains this month. does the january barometer signal a sustained rally ahead? or will it lead investors in the cold this year? >>> plus, metal mania. gold, silver and copper have all been rocking this year. and we'll show you how these heavy metals can keep producing profits for your portfolio. and will the kindle fire fire up amazon's earnings? the results are coming up. you're watching cnbc. first in business worldwide. >>> welcome back. sharon epperson at the nymex. we dropped below the $100 a barrel level. we're watching what's

. >> adp said more than half of the gains last month were in small businesses, which historically are the engine of job creation in a recovery, shep. >> shep: peter, we also get indicators of planned job cuts. as it turns out, the number of planned job cuts has gone way down, too. >> that's right. a separate report from outplacement consultants challenger gray and christmas said the number of planned layoffs as u.s. companies declined to their lowest level since june, about 42,000 positions. both reports today have elevated expectations for tomorrow's monthly jobs report from the labor department and analysts expect it will show nonfarm payrolls up 150,000 last month, with the unemployment rate holding steady at about 8.7%. >> shep: peter barns live in washington, thanks. the parents of an armed teen-ager shot dead in school are demanding answers tonight from the cop who pulled the trigger. now we're hearing the police recordings as the officer tried to get that teen to cooperate. >> he fired the gun. >> put it down! >> put the gun down! >> he's drawing the gun, sir. >> put the gun do

we have big news on the economic front and the jobs report to be released tomorrow at 8:30 and the adpims were pointing in a good direction. >> yes. at least i will speak for myself. i have been so focused on the republican race, but this is a very important day for 2012 too. we saw the november jobs report, 120,000 jobs created. the last month has been a good month politically for president obama. we have seen the numbers bump up. another positive jobs report, 150,000 jobs create and unemployment drops a bit. it's not going to drop to 5% before the election, but trend lines matter. if the trend line is trending downward, that's going to be a nice moment for president obama as he tries to pick up steam in the first month of 2012. >> thanks very much. we will be looking for that tomorrow. as well as the poll coming out tomorrow as well. the best snapshot yet of the post iowa belts that. does it for us. stay with us tomorrow. we are live here in new hampshire with former governor john sununu who has endorsed mitt romney. online and on twitter@mitchell reports. what's next on "news nation

adp said 325,000 jobs were added in december. that's the most hiring in a year. and you know what? if you look at the five-year plan here, what it has looked like over the past five years, we've seen this kind of improvement. sure, obviously things really dipped pretty darn low during the recession but things have been gradually improving lately. the economists say it is nice to see this improvement. in the numbers today, stocks right now are flat. traders really aren't putting a lot of weight on the numbers. they consider this more of just an appetizer before tomorrow's main course. the government jobs report. that of course measures both private and sector jobs as well as opportunity employment rate. >> we'll be talking about that tomorrow. meantime, i'm sure people's ears perked when we mentioned a possible social security breach. what do you know? >> reporter: yes, follow me on this. the whole thing started with an investigation by officials in connecticut. the state subpoenaed wells fargo seeking financial records as part of a fraud investigation. now, as wells fargo was prepa

i became that adp a representative to the commission in 1996.on was designated as the flagship between the u.s. and newly elected government of nelson mandela. my job was to work with the south african department of tourism to provide humanitarian assistance for those who had been so devastated by wrote decades of reese's role. not long after i assumed this position i was approached by a south african environment tall leader named jacob. and he told me about a community two hours from the capital where miners were reported the being injured and dying from exposure to the vanadium pentoxide a medal zero used to strengthen steel. he described workers who bled from every orifice, bettongs turned green sometimes brown or black. and when i reported this situation to my supervisor, a situation that anybody would consider horrific, but particularly if you work for the epa, she told me to shut up. as she went on to explain since i had moved into a brand-new office what i really need to do is spend my time decorating it. i was shocked. i just told an epa

on wednesday already it's the adp employment report. maybe it will give us a little bit of insight as to what to expect. on wednesday we'll get ism in construction spending. thursday you have squobless claims and productivity and costs and then friday, believe it or not, it's the jobs report. the all-important monthly jobs report. ism manufacturing and factory orders as well. figure what out that it's so -- january flew by? >> february i could understand. aren't there fewer days in februa february? >> january we had all those vacation days. >> in january it was also -- it wasn't on the 2nd or 3rd of january. i think it was on the first friday was the 6th of january. so we already had a week under our belt. it seems like we just hit -- >> january for -- it does seem like it. >> it seems like we just reported that and it was a good number and the 8.5% but there were some flaws in it, too, and the same with the gdp number last week. better but then people were -- >> time is going faster. >> i was on that diet and time slowed down to a craw

adp usually comes out the day before the unemployment numbers.n that. but the 350,000 private sector jobs, that's a fantastic number. the estimate was for 175,000 jobs created last month. 350,000 on the private level. i think that's going to bode well for tomorrow. you'll probably see another 150, 175,000 jobs created. but tomorrow you still may see that unemployment rate bump up from 8.6%. >> steve: how does that work? >> because the reason why it dropped so much last month, 9.1% down to 8.6% was because there was 450,000 people who left the work force 'cause they said things are so bad, i'm not gog look. so they're not counted in the number. if they come back, it sounds like things are coming back, may not get it right away. that means more people in the bottom number. so then the unemployment could bump up even though you create a few jobs. this number today, the 375,000 initial jobless claims, it's not an estimate, it's not a phone survey like the other two. it's actual number of people who went into unemployment and said, i need help for the

adp looks at private sector jobs, it was a blowout number yesterday and that's leading some to believe today's number could be good. the correlation isn't always exact but leading people to be a little more optimistic than they otherwise would be. >> and there have been other signs, shopping, the stock market. give us context as we await this number what analysts are saying the economy is doing right now. >> reporter: europe has settled down a little bit. the election is still a little ways off, that creates some uncertainty, but year-end, some employers are clearly thinking maybe i'll take a shot here at one or two people. you mentioned the unemployment rate earlier. we know that's a little misleading because as things get better, if you stop looking for work, maybe you give it another shot, you're now part of the sample and that unemployment number may tick up, even as the overall picture is improving, so the unemployment rate might not be the number to focus on today. it might be the actual shear number of jobs that are being created. >> but nevertheless, people are going to be watc

payroll processing firm adp says private sector companies ramped up hiring last month adding 325,000 jobs. up from 204,000 in november. many economists aren't expecting the labor department's numbers coming out tomorrow to be as large. >>> a deadly police shooting in ogden, utah. six officers on a narcotics task force are shot, one killed while serving a search warrant. wounded officer's injuries range from serious to critical. the suspected shooter was also wounded and his injuries are not life threatening. the officer who died at the hospital was a seven. year veteran of the organized city police force. he leaves behind a wife and two young children. >>> in los angeles, $2.85 million is the bail set for the german national suspected of setting dozens of fires. harry burkhardt will also have to surrender his german passport while he waits to be tried. it is believed the 42-year-old started more than 50 fires after his mother's arrest led to his "rage" against americans. >>> casey anthony out of the news and out of sight for months is apparently speaking out for the first time since

adp, a company that processes paychecks in its own survey it says that it thinks that 325,000 jobs werew we'll find out for sure when the government releases its labor statistics for the month. more economists are expecting something like 150,000. right now u.s. stock futers for the dow, nasdaq, s&p 500 pointing to a plat open and up a bit from earlier from those jobs, that jobs data. soledad, back to you. >> christine, thanks. >>> republican field is spinning after a disappointing sixth place finish. congresswoman michele bachmann suspended her campaign and then rick perry looked like he was bowing out, as well. the texas governor decided he'll keep going. here's what he said. >> so, what made you change your mind about reassessing? >> i didn't say i was going to reassess last night. i reassess. we're headed to new hampshire and then south carolina. >> so you'll participate in both debates in south carolina? >> absolutely. >> how do these changes affect the frontrunner? we'll chat about that this morning. and also jennifer donahue of the eisenhower institute joins us, as well. nice to