because the small business pers can manipulate that like nobody's business and that's the advanta ofaking risk and being a small business person. but on the obamacare side, we had no, probably 75% of people said that it would affect their hiring and that wa a much bigger issue than just the marginal rates. todd,n ct, we're seeing many polls come out that show that small business owners right now are starting to cut back, they're not spending as much. >> that's right. look, in the -- in the jobs report for november, if you look, 57% of the js created were of the seasonal variety. he low wage workers, so, going forward, you can only suspect that those jobsill be eventually will end up hitting the unemployment line, but more importantly, small business owners are staying away from hiring right now. for various reasons, lack of demand, they can't accs credit and understand the tax implications that they're going to have to face going forward doesn't make a lot of sense to go out and hire. >> brenda: jonas? >> i don't thi we should worry about a small increase in taxes and unemployment ri

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