available we issue these to explore the opportunity and we take a look at the capitalized interest, advisoworking with the departmet closely. they are eager to spend money relative to the sale, we have been told to use a portion of the $3 million in funding that would be required to generate. prior to selling. with that, i do have the department of public works. the project manager supervisor avalos:. -- supervisor avalos: thank you. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- if i remember my numbers, this -- thank you. supervisor elsbernd: if i remember right, a number that would be helpful -- i know that pc our being paid it back through the general fund for the annual amount. this one is 25 years? bob's where we are, just to get a sense, reverting back words, that this is money that is no longer discretionary. i would like to get a sense of how much that is. >> we do keep track of that. ." supervisor avalos: when you are issuing debt, you are also looking at changing interest- rate, so it would be good to see your friend and getting better rates as well. i am sure it is