>> i don't have any formal relationship with aei. friend and mentor of mine for many years. one of the nice things about this book is that it's concerned about issues of poverty. and how we help poor people. what i want to do is write a book that would not disconnect to academic audiences but connect to a broader array of individuals and organizations that working as a big many of those are nonprofit, faith-based organizations. arthur is an expert on the nonprofit sector and understands how critical that sector is to the work we do. he has provided inside the insight, suggestions. >> you're a professor at the university of chicago. what department? >> i'm in the school of social service which celebrate its hundred year a year ago. it's a school social work. we trained thousands of students to be practitioners and counselors at one serve millions of americans over the course of all their careers. i teach courses on the history of the welfare state but i also teach courses on poverty and this thing i'm taking a new course for nonprofit

. >> we want to talk about aei's article that you worked on.ow often does the topic of up intism come polling? guest: not very often. host: how does the interviewer again at the question? guest: this simply ask straightforward questions. host: here is one pulled from cbs news. -- here is one poll. how does the phrasing of a question like that affect the outcome? guest: that's always important in polls. they give people a range of responses they can choose. for that many people who say they are extremely proud to be americans is a very impressive results. host: and different wording -- how patriotic are you? 32% said extremely patriotic. guest: i'm always impressed by those responses. small number of americans say that they're not patriotic. host: 78% in 2008 said that voting was something they consider to be patriotic. 70% said saying the pledge of allegiance was patriotic. guest: americans define it very broadly. military service comes up at the top expression of patriotism in most polls. all these other things, volunteering, voting, are expre

. >> host: arthur brooks, head of aei has endorsed her book.elationship with ati or arthur brooks? >> guest: arthur has been a friend and a mentor of mine for many years. one of the nice about this book is that he's concerned about issues of poverty in america and how we help poor people. what i want to do is write a book that would not just connect to a broader array of individuals and organizations that work in this area. many of those are faith-based organizations. arthur understands how critical that factor is to the work we do and as you mentioned place suggestions as they structured the survey move forward. >> host: you are a professor at the university of chicago. what iraq? what you teach? >> guest: if a school social worker between thousands of students to be part tensioners, counselors to serve millions of americans over the course of all their careers. i teach courses on the history of the welfare state. i also teach courses on issues of poverty in the spring and teach in a new on non-profit social innovation, which will be technique

i'll be performing all week at aei. let's talk about football and theodore roosevelt. i'd like to start with a statistic. in 1905, 18 people died playing football. in 1905, 18 people died playing football. so we hear a lot today about the problem concussions and head injuries and long-term health effects of all that, that's a controversy in football today. but it's got nothing on the challenges that football faced a little more than a century ago. so, let's go back in time. in 1876, theodore roosevelt attended his first football game. he was an 18 year old freshman at harvard university. he got on a train with a bunch of friends and they went to new haven, connecticut, where they watched the second ever football game played between harvard and yale. so in the history of college sports, there are a lot of great rivalries. michigan has ohio state. alabama has auburn. the heritage foundation and the brookings institution. harvard had yale. remember, the ivy league is not an athletic conference. in 18 '06 to play the second ever football game. the weather was lousy. it was

but i think for the second dictionary when his over aei think other people, he uses described or other people help them with the writing. >> you suggested that his obsessions and compulsions might have been hard on his family. was there any particular evidence of that? >> yes, he had a son, he had one son and six daughters. and his son never come his son was very bright and he studied classics at el but he never graduated. his letters are kind of sad. he was depressed. and he worked on the dictionary but because he didn't have a college degree he could never become if full long after. and i have since been noah webster's son was very difficult. his wife was, his wife kept an orderly house. a perfect fit for him, and she didn't complain but he had a sense that she was doing everything that she wanted, and it must've taken a toll on her, even if she doesn't talk about it explicitly in the letters. there's a sense he was very demanding but there's also letters that i quote in the book between webster and his daughters, and webster is on a trip and rather than -- get a hard time connecting

we will then and with my colleague, norm subward, a resident scholar at aei who everyone knows appropriately. norm is going to tell us after hearing from our other three colleagues, what it all means for politics and policy. so that is the game plan. david, kick us off. >> thank you to brookings for giving so much love to and often under love topic, but i often call redistricting a once in a decade nerd fest for politicians, pundits, academics, lawyers demographers, cartographers you name it. i am pleased to see so many nerds out here in the audience. i definitely am one. god knows, but redistricting is really one of the only arena is it not the only arena in which it is fair to compare lebron james and dennis kucinich. i really don't think that dennis kucinich even if he decides to take his talent elsewhere perhaps the two washington state, will do any better in terms of winning. that i really think the examples of how redistricting affects our politics are everywhere around us. even if they are not necessarily part of the news articles that we read on major issues at stake these days. duri

we will then and with my colleague, norm subward, a resident scholar at aei who everyone knows appropriately. norm is going to tell us after hearing from our other three colleagues, what it all means for politics and policy. so that is the game plan. david, kick us off. >> thank you to brookings for giving so much love to and often under love topic, but i often call redistricting a once in a decade nerd fest for politicians, pundits, academics, lawyers demographers, cartographers you name it. i am pleased to see so many nerds out here in the audience. i definitely am one. god knows, but redistricting is really one of the only arena is it not the only arena in which it is fair to compare lebron james and dennis kucinich. i really don't think that dennis kucinich even if he decides to take his talent elsewhere perhaps the two washington state, will do any better in terms of winning. that i really think the examples of how redistricting affects our politics are everywhere around us. even if they are not necessarily part of the news articles that we read on major issues at stake these days. duri

we will then and with my colleague, norm subward, a resident scholar at aei who everyone knows appropriately. norm is going to tell us after hearing from our other three colleagues, what it all means for politics and policy. so that is the game plan. david, kick us off. >> thank you to brookings for giving so much love to and often under love topic, but i often call redistricting a once in a decade nerd fest for politicians, pundits, academics, lawyers demographers, cartographers you name it. i am pleased to see so many nerds out here in the audience. i definitely am one. god knows, but redistricting is really one of the only arena is it not the only arena in which it is fair to compare lebron james and dennis kucinich. i really don't think that dennis kucinich even if he decides to take his talent elsewhere perhaps the two washington state, will do any better in terms of winning. that i really think the examples of how redistricting affects our politics are everywhere around us. even if they are not necessarily part of the news articles that we read on major issues at stake these days. duri

we'll then end with my colleague, norm ornstein, a rest skyler at aei, everyone knows appropriately, norm is going to tell us after hearing from our other three colleagues, what it all means for politics and policy. so that's the game plan. david, kick us off. >> thank you very much, tom. thank you to brookings for giving so much love to an often underloved topic but i often call redistricting a once in a decade nerdfest for politicians, pundits, academics, lawyers, carttographers, you name it, i'm pleased to see so many nerds out in the audience, i definitely am one, god knows. redistricting is really only one of the arenas if not the only arena in which it's fair to compare lebron james and dennis kucinich. i really don't think if dennis kucinich will do any better in terms of winning but i really think that examples of how redistricting affects our politics are everywhere around us. even if they're not necessarily part of the news articles that we read on major issues at stake these days. during the medicare fight, for example, i don't think last year any of us could have predicte