mentioned, during the aesentation, that was shocking moment that we learned it was happening. >> what was your personal reaction? that personal reaction was it was pre-shocking to receipt -- it was pretty shocking to see this was happening. i know what that front door is, i man that front door. it would have been nice if they had used the legal but -- legal mechanisms that are available. my reaction is, what is this about? it was somewhat confusing. i know leadership in the company was flat on outraged by it. google actually started about a year before, including the data between the data centers. of thisuse they knew particular kind of collection that was going on, but because it was the right thing to go -- to do. you try to secure your data, where are the vulnerability points? here is a potential vulnerability point. there's no reason to think it would be exploited. let's clean it up. let's get it in crypt it. a year before the first batch of snowden revelations came out we had already started in cryptic the data centers. it looks at it is really happening. up the efforts to encryp