it's the other party that treats people as coalitions of race and aetna city. and ethnicity. i don't think that's true anymore. i think it has become a little bit more we have to step outside of that and realize that some of these people, we don't treat them as individuals. we say those are democratic voters and we don't need to reach out to them. >> there's a topic problem, the mobility, and a demographic problem. >> i think the identity problem is the real thing, but i think if you have the right policies, that becomes easier to fix. democrats managed to consolidate the black vote because they made the correct appeals on policy. the problem is not just the republicans are going after problems that were fixed. a new set of problems has arisen that conservatism does not have ideas to address. there are two main ones. one of the key propositions of economic conservatism has been worry first about growth and we shouldn't worry too much about distribution, but when you have returns occurring disproportionately, that no longer appeals to the middle and lower classes. and then we