we have 99 sites that have been approved ultimately for the location of the afghan local police, and we're well on the way, we're over 50% of that in terms of the creation of those afghan local police garrisons. and most of those, vast majority of those, actually support the campaign. many of those village stability locations we began operations in them months ago. that progress is continuing. we are using our special operators now to be the core element for the creation of the village stability platform to create the community mobilization, to ultimately embrace their own security, to be the trainers and ultimately the mentors for the afghan local police. as time goes on, it is our intention to use afghan special operators ultimately to, just as we are in other areas, to transition our special operators out of those garrisons, and move them on to other areas where they will -- where they will continue the mission. >> thank you. mr. larson? >> thank you, mr. chairman. dr. miller, probably couldn't have been in that chair, in that position, i was sitting down here at that time, 2002 an

i really would ask you both because you're both very much involved in the afghan local police and their support by our special operations and our general purpose forces. so first, general, what is your response to the criticisms that we read of the afghan local police program and then admiral, i'd like to ask you the same question. >> as you know, chairman that, program is under the governor's command. they're not on their own out there. they have u.s. special forces as advisors living alongside them. it is interesting that doing all these months of difficulty with this insider threat, as we called it, where we've had some of our troops attacked, not one of these troops living out of the very edges in small -- very edges of the battlefield in small groups has been attacked. we find that those forces are ethical. we keep a close watch on them. if we get any indication of unethical behavior, violent behavior taking advantage of their position, it's investigated immediately. and we keep a very close watch on it. >> admiral? >> yes, sir. as you know, general allen investigated some of these

afghan local police program is one component of the platform or operation which really kind of looks at security governance and then economic development. and the afghan local police are part of that security aspect at the village level linking the village to the district and then the xridistrict and the provinc and the province to the central government. >> general, regarding -- i also had the opportunity as a result of my military duty to actually go to the detainee facility and actually participate in a -- in a board, so-called board to determine whether that detainee should be released. it was not dissimilar to our drug boards and other types of boards that seem to be in concert with everything that i've been taught as a jag and i find it fascinating and i also found it a little bit troubling especially troubling potentially troubling, i should say, because the strategic partnership agreement with the afghan government is absolutely important. something we need to get signed and implemented right away. because it puts to bed the notion that we're packing our bags and leaving. howe

decision, and it's their decision, when they make that decision, then we begin to recruit the afghan local police. the individuals of any particular garrison are vetted by the local elders, they're vetted, of course, through a police record. they are -- they are technically and officially associated with the ministry of interior through the local district chief of police. they're trained by our special operators, green berets, s.e.a.l.s or marines, who live amongst them and continue to mentor their capabilities. what has happened with the alp is it has created opportunities for large amounts of the afghan population to reject the taliban. and there is -- there have been some cuts we have gotten where taliban commanders have said if you can kill an alp commander, so an afghan local policeman who's leading his own tribesmen in that particular village, if you can kill an alp commander it's worth ten coalition soldiers. the taliban are very threatened by the alp because the significant terrain, the key terrain in a counterinsurgency, is the human terrain. and the afghan local police deny the human te

the afghan local police program is one component of the village stability platform or operation which looks at security, governance and economic development. the afghan local police are part of a security aspect at the village level linking the village to the district and district to the province and the province to the central government and the program is working well. >> thank you. i had the opportunity as a result of my military duty to actually go to the detainee facility and participate a so-called board to determine whether the detainee should be released who is not dissimilar to our drug lords and other types of lords who seem to be in concert with everything on have been taught at the jag. i found it troubling to the girl potentially troubling because the strategic partnership agreement with the afghan government is in port. something we need to get signed and implemented right away. it puts to bed we're packing airbags and leaving. the transfer of detainee's to afghan custody presents real concerns for me. they don't have the capacity at this point based -- to assume the sec

i take heart on the success of the afghan local police as potentially a model and an indicator of how this will unfold because as you know across afghanistan there are multiple, tens of afghan local police garrisons of which our special operators are embedded across the country and in all of those, well over 12,000 afghan local police there is yet to be an attack on any of our green berets, seals or marines. i believe we will do this correctly, obviously. i think we can continue the process of embedding our security forces and their platforms and advisers into these formations, and undertaking the measures for protection that we now have underway, sir. >> dr. miller, chairman king has been asking general allen about some of the major challenges ahead, the corruption and other factors which might be generally put in the category of a fundamental issue which is tactical success on the ground. if the government fails, then most experts, suggested me and we will not be successful. one of the tensions in afghanistan has historically in the last 10 years been between a central government an

i take heart in the success of the afghan local police as potentially a model and indicator of how this will unfold. across afghanistan there are multiple, tens of afghan local police, garrison, in which our special operators are embedded across the country. in all of those, over 12,000 local police, there has yet to be an attack on one of our green ba rays, seals or marines. if it's done right and i believe we will do this correctly, obviously, i think that we can continue the process of embedding our security force platforms and advisers into these formations, taking, undertaking the measures for protection that we now have under way. >> thank you. dr. miller, senator mccain in asking general allen about some of the major challenges including corruption and other factors which might be generally put under the category of governance, raises a fundamental issue. we could have tactical success on the ground but if the governance fails, then most experts, most suggest that in the end we will not be successful. one of the tensions in afghanistan historically in the last 10 years has been b

the afghan local police program is one component of the village stability platform or operation, whichreally looks at security governance and economic development in the afghan local police are part of the security aspect of the village level, linking the village to the district in the district of the province by province eventually to the government enriching programs working extremely well. >> thank you. >> i also had the opportunity as a result of my military duty to actually coach the detainee facility and participate in a court, so-called court to determine whether that detainee should be released. it was not the similar charger ports and other types of boards that seem to be in concert with everything i've been taught as a jag. i find it fascinating and i also sounded a little troubling, especially potentially troubling i should say because the strategic hardship agreement with the afghan government is absolutely important, something we need to get signed and implemented right away because it puts to bed the notion we're packing our bags and leaving. however, exposure to transfer

we have 99 sites that have been approved ultimately for the location of the afghan local police and we are well on the way, we are over 50% of that in terms of the creation of those afghan local police garrisons and most of those, the vast majority of those, actually support the campaign. many of those village stability locations we began operations in the months ago. so that progress is continuing. we are using our special operators now to be the core element or the creation of the village stability platform to create the community mobilization to ultimately embrace their own security to be the trainers and ultimately the mentors for the afghan local police and as time goes on sir, sir, it is our intention to use afghan special operators ultimately too, just as we are in other areas, to transition our special operators out of those garrisons and move them on to other areas where they will continue the mission. >> thank you. mr. larson. >> thank you mr. chairman. hermelor, you probably could have been in that chair in that position. in 2002 and 2003, and the military at the time was in

some of the afghan local police. i'm wondering whether or not you have a response to that, and i really what i think ask you both to kiss you both very much are involved in the afghan local police and their support by our special operations center. the general purpose forces. first general what is your response to the criticisms by the afghan local police program? >> as you know chairman that program is under the provincial governors command. they are not on their own out there. they have u.s. federal forces living alongside them. it's interesting that during all these months of difficulty with this insider threat as we called it where we had some more troops attack, not one of these troops living out of the very edges of the battlefield in small groups have been attacked. we find that those forces are at that goal. we keep a close watch and if we get any indication of unethical behavior, violent behavior, taking advantage of their position to investigated immediately and we keep very close watch on them. >> general?

we have 99 sites that have been approved ultimately for the location of the afghan local police, and l on the way over 50% of that in terms of the creation of those afghan local police garrisons, and most of those, vast majority support the campaign and many of the village of stokely locations began operations in them months ago so that progress is continuing. we are using our special offer readers now to be the core allin for the creation of the stability platform to create the community mobilization to ultimately embrace their own security to be the trainers and ultimately the mentors for the afghan police and as time goes on, it is our intention to use afghan special operators ultimately to just as we are in other areas to transition our operators out of those garrisons and move them on to other areas where they will continue the mission. 64. mr. larsen? >> thank you, mr. chairman. dr. miller in that chair in that position i was seeing down here at the time in 2002 and 2003 military at that time stilling as in afghanistan we need to train 70,000 folks in afghanistan and deutsch and

if you want to have the afghan local police initiative but surely a special force officers, how can yoube innovative and then it? said he brought in entry forces to augment the special forces that's really atypical. there's some neat examples of strategic leadership in action. and you know, in his dealings with karzai he just realize that anytime he brought eikenberry, karzai would become material and irrational on this, so he gets up reading him. that petraeus maintained a good relationship with eikenberry. they were best friends. they're both cordial and spoke politely to me, but when used speak to the staff come to understand a little bit of tension and so forth. but i didn't really write about this in the book except to say that when petraeus love to rose. that day he was writing notes in his notebook of all the things i missed to do list and when the first people he wanted to call after holly was right crocker come his former partner and did call crocker and he was interested in joining him. and so they made a lot of calls for the white house and around washington to get there anyw

indicators away that the conditions have changed in some respects that prompts the advent of the afghan local police very quickly and also the large numbers of insurgeants who have reintegrated. >> thank you. >> mr. kauffman. >> thank you mr. chairman. first of all, dr. miller, when you look at the in state in terms of our conventional ground units are gone. from the country i suspect we have after 2014 some advisory presence, some special operations personnel to do counter terrorism operations, what would you estimate the cost of that to be? >> your sense of the likely mission appears to me to be counter terrorism. >> to the afghan government to sustain their security forces and what's the point that they would expect after 2014? >> we have had discussion about the appropriate and necessary sustained level of contribution is for the afghan national security forces over time. as we discussed earlier you can think of it in a sense as what is the approximate cost 352,000 which is where 330,000 today and growing to 352,000 for nsf. there is a cost associated with that and we are looking towards the int

how do we make sure in the transition that there is enough time and space for the ansf, the afghan local police, the government, in fact, to make sure that they can actually have a chance of being successful in pushing things forward. and then as a follow on to that, as you are looking at conditions on the ground, what will you be considering as far as capabilities of the afghan national security force, the kabts of the enemy as you plan for the draw down of our troops? >> referee: t . >> the process of transition occurs against different traunchs. each of those we go through significant levels of detail of planning on the isf side and in partnership with the afghan coordinator for transition who has done frankly magnificent work in the process of leading transitions. but also very significantly we spent a great deal of time with the director of national security, with the minister of defense and with the minister of interior. we look very, very carefully at those areas that are transitioning to ensure that the ansf elements within those areas have the capacity to handle the security environmen

the afghan local police? the government pshgs in fact. maybe sure they can stand up and have a chance anding successful in pushing things forward, and then as a follow-on to that, as you're looking at conditions on the ground. wrap will you be considering as far as capabilities of the afghan national security force, the capabilities of the enemy, as you plan for the drawdown of our troops? >> the process of transition, as you know, occurs across several different tranches. and in each one of those tranches before they are announced, we go to significant levels of detail. of planning both on the isef side but also in partnership with the afghan coordinator for transition. the doctor, who has done magnificent work in the process of leading transition, but also very significantly, we spend a great deal of time with the director of national security, engineer, with the minister of defense and with mohammedie, minister of interior and look very, very carefully at the areas transitioning to ensure that the anst elements within those areas have

when they make that decision, and it is their decision, then we began to recruit the afghan local police. the individuals of any particular garrison are checked by the local elders, for their police record. they are technically and officially associated with the minister of the interior, through the local district chief of police, trained by our special green berets and seals, who live amongst them and mentor their capabilities. what has happened with the a.l.p. is it has created opportunities for large parts of the population to reject the taliban. there have been taliban commanders to say it could kill an a.l.p. leader, and after a local policeman who was leading at the touch, if he could kill the commander, it is worth 10 coalition soldiers. the taliban are very threatened by the a.l.p., because the key terrain, it is the human terrain. the local police deny the human terrain to the taliban. we're only halfway through the field of the force. we are about 12,000 right now. we envision about 30,000. once we reach that, we will made to make hard decisions about retaining that force, cont

when they make that decision, and it is their decision, then we began to recruit the afghan local policee individuals of any particular garrison are checked by the local elders, for their police record. they are technically and officially associated with the minister of the interior, through the local district chief of police, trained by our special green berets and seals, who live amongst them and mentor their capabilities. what has happened with the a.l.p. is it has created opportunities for large parts of the population to reject the taliban. there have been taliban commanders to say it could kill an a.l.p. leader, and after a local policeman who was leading at the touch, if he could kill the commander, it is worth 10 coalition soldiers. the taliban are very threatened by the a.l.p., because the key terrain, it is the human terrain. the local police deny the human terrain to the taliban. we're only halfway through the field of the force. we are about 12,000 right now. we envision about 30,000. once we reach that, we will made to make hard decisions about retaining that force, continui

if you want to have this afghan local police initiative but you only have so many special forces officers how can you be innovative and augmented? so he brought in conventional forces, that's really atypical but there's some neat examples of kind of strategic leadership action and, you know, i think in his dealing with karzai he just realized anytime he brought eikenberry, karzai would become mercurial to the point of irrational almost so he did stop bringing him but petraeus maintained a good relationship with eikenberry. they weren't best friends from my perspective they both were cordial and speak polite to me but when you speak to the staff you understand there's a little bit of tension and so forth. he had -- i didn't really write about this in the book except to say that when petraeus left the rose garden that day he found out he was taking the job he was writing notes in his notebook of all his things on his to-do list and the first people he wanted to call after holly was ryan crocker, his former partner in iraq and he did call crocker and crocker was interested in joining him and

i think when you look at the stability operation and the afghan local police program across both the east and the south, that actually has contributed to a decline of taliban-controlled territory more than almost any other program. so in fact it's been quite successful. and the concerns that most people had is that this was building afghan militia and it was these militia forces that were going to turn predatory. actually ironically it was an american soldier operating out of rural areas that committed the most recent abuse rather than the afghans themselves. >> ifill: how about the timetable? there is a timetable for withdrawal of u.s. forces. does this sort of thing speed it up? does it slow it down? does it make people here or there more nervous about it? >> seth and i may disagree about this. to some degree i'm speculating but we had a bit of tug of war between general john allen and the white house about what the time line would be. john allen wanted to keep those forces in place as long as he could, up until the departure date. the white house and particularly vice president bi

after a nato soldier turned on afghan troops and another, an american was allegedly killed by afghan local police's been dubbed green on blue violence. these so-called attacks have left 15 dead this year alone. joining us is medal of honor recipient and analyst for msnbc. you said not all of this is new, but we're seeing it in a more direct way. what do you make of these most recent disclosures? >> you're seeing it by the amount of combat is down, the direct contact between conventional american forces and the enemy in afghanistan is greatly reduced, and as a result, this kind of activity, which has been going on for a long, long time, is much more prominent. i have a friend who is gunned down by an afghan policeman about five or six years ago who he was training. so this kind of stuff happens all the time. we're just paying much more attention to it, that's all. >> we mention nd your introduction you're a medal of honor winner, two bronze stars, two medals. you're saying the evidence, and we don't know everything yet, but the evidence seems to suggest it was more premeditated and this puts more

how do we make sure in the transition that there is enough time and space for the ansf, the afghan local police, the government in fact to make sure that they are stood up and that they can actually have a chance of being successful in pushing things forward? and then as a follow-on to that, as you're looking at conditions on the ground, what will you be considering as far as capabilities of afghan national security force, the capabilities of the enemy, as you plan for the drawdown of our troops? >> all in occurs across several different tranches. and in each one of those tranches before they are announced we go to significant levels of detail. of planning both on the ice outside, but also in partnership dash of isaf side, the afghan corner for coordination host and, frankly, magnificent work in the process of leading transitions. but also very significantly been a great, great deal of time with the director of national security, with general warnock, the minister of defense and general mohammed he who is the minister of interior. and we look at very, very carefully at those areas that are tran

. >> he was supporting a village stability platform operation which supports the afghan local policeatforms and the district of kandahar. >> would it be normal for a u.s. soldier to be able to walk off the base by himself and not be detected by others? >> he was detected. in fact, an afghan soldier detected his departure. and reported it. so he was detected and it is -- >> did anyone try to stop him? >> a search party was being put together immediately. a head count was done amongst the american soldiers and they recognized he was missing, unaccounted for and we put together a search party right away and as the search party was forming that was when we began to have indications of the outcome of his departure. >> i've read report he is had three previous tours of duty in iraq. this was his first tour of duty in afghanistan. is that true? >> that's correct. >> so was there any evidence looking back, of any mental illness or posttraumatic stress disorder or anything along those lines? >> we're going to look into all of that, wolf, in the course of the investigation. >> our pentagon cor

but how to get it done to have local afghan police initiative how can you be innovative and augmented? he brought in forces that is a typical but there is some need to examples in his dealings and the time he brought eikenberry -- eikenberry he was a carryall to the plaintive irrational but he maintains of a good relationship with eikenberry. they were both cordial but speaking to the staff you understand there is tension. i did not write about this in a book except to say when petraeus left the rose garden u.s. writing notes of things on his to do list. one of the first people to call after holly was his former partner crocker and he was interested in joining him. they made a lot of calls to the warehouse and around washington to have them be together right away obviously he did not get there one year later. would it have made a difference? we will never know. >> because we're at politics and prose would is a future possibility of that general petraeus time in politics? >> did you watch "the daily show"? [laughter] i was on the jon stewart "daily show" a week and a half ago i will bo

soldier was killed by local afghan police officer and two british troops were shot dead by an afghan soldier. general john allen, the commander of nato forces in afghanistan, said such killings will likely continue. >> we experienced these in iraq in vietnam. on any occasion, where you're dealing with an insurgency and where you are growing and indigenous force, which ultimately will be the principal opposition to the insurgency, the enemy is going to do all that they can to disrupt both the counter insurgency operations, but also the integrity of the indigenous forces that develops. >> the supreme court is entering its second day of its historic review of the affordable care act. on monday, the justices took up a procedural tax law question about the timing of lawsuits and suggested by their questions that they could decide the merits of the case. today, the justices will hear arguments on whether congress had the power to require most people in the united states to buy medical insurance. we will have a debate on the supreme court case after the headlines. about 10,000 people marche

working among the local population, trying to, you know, gain trust, how do you train local afghan security forces and police if you're not in the vils and the answer was we can't do that. there's a handful of huge military, u.s. military bases in afghanistan but by and large, the armed forces are on very small forward operating bases and smaller, 200 here, 20 here. >> now, presumably, president karzai was doing this for local consumption, political reaction at home after the koran burnings, after the massacre of the 16 civilians. that said, if the u.s. did have to withdraw to bases, they might as well just withdraw from the country. >> that's sort of the thinking. bear in mind, the white house does want to get out of this war and right now, the strategy is that most troops will be gone by 2014, the end of 2014. so we're talking about how fast that withdrawal occurs over the next two years. that's what the debate right now is over. >> of course, it's also a debate in the election campaign. john mccain this weekend was saying you cannot hurry this process. we know that that is the position of mccain and linds

police believe he was suffering from post- traumatic stress disorder. >> local afghan people want fasterion for u.s. troops to be removed. >> in fremont, they say images of the dead children depict a war that has lost its purpose. many believe the latest civilian casualties are another example of why it is time to bring troops home. >> we're looking for a swift withdrawal. >> we do not want any more troops to die in afghanistan and we do not want the people of afghanistan dying. we want the children of america back home to their loved ones and families. >> i do not think it is doing any good. it is costing the u.s. people a lot of money. >> that he hoped the president will listen, fremont has the highest afghan population in the u.s.. >> for me was having a sense of unity. >> protesters signed a letter and a banner demanding the president to change the course of the war. organizers hope to give bay area lawmakers to sign a banner. >>marty: let's check in with henry. >>henry: for teachers all of the state, many received pink slips last week. they may not have a job in the fall. we will me

local police who don't normally carry weapons have been issued guns. his client remembered very little about killing of 16 afghan civilians. she, too, wants to know what happened. and it's reported that bails' owes $1.5 million from a 2003 arbitration that found him guilty of security fraud. >>> kate middleton has made her first public speech. >> first of all, i'd like to say thieving. thank you for not only accepting me as a patron, thank you also for inviting me. >> kate says she was sorry that prince william could not be there. >>> and in eastern china, a 2300 foot long highway bridge was demolished by more than a ton of explosives. they're going to start building a new highway system. here's an early look at one of your top headlines on msnbc.com. doctors are warning that the dangers of unregulated synthetic marijuana which is made from plants and herbs. teens up able to speak and hallucinating, about 11% tried pot last year. poison control centers handled almost 7,000 calls about it. you can check out the health page at msnbc.com. >> >> and, now, here's an early look at how wall street will kick off the day

local police who normally don't carry weapons have been issued guns. >>> the lawyer for sergeant robert bales says his client remembers very little about the killing of 16 afghan civilians. bales' wife said in a statement that she, too, wants to know what happened. and it's reported that bales owes $1.5 million from a 2003 arbitration that found him guilty of securities fraud. >>> kate middleton's made her had first public speech. she was warmly welcomed at a children's hospice. >> first of all, i'd like to say thank you. thank you for not only accepting me as a patron, thank you also for inviting me here today. >> kate said she was sorry that prince william, who's on military duty, could not be there. >>> meanwhile, england's queen elizabeth ii is giving a special address to parliament this hour to mark her 60 years on the throne. she'll see an unveiling of a stained glass window in her honor, a gift from both houses. a gift from a sovereign who then delivers a supply dates back to the 1500s. >>> now is an early look at one of your top health headlines on msnbc.com. doctors are warning about the dangers of unregulated synthetic marijuana made from plants and

local police who normally don't carry weapons have been issued guns. >>> the lawyer for sergeant robert bales says his client remembers very little about the killing of 16 afghanivilians. bales' wife said in a statement that she, too, wants to it know what happened. and it's reported that bales owes $1.5 million from a 2003 arbitration that found him guilty of securities fraud. >>> and in eastern china, a 2300-foot-long highway bridge was demolished by more than a ton of kmroesives after they clean up all the debris, they will start building a new highway system. >>> well, england's newest royal, the duchess of cambridge, came through her latest test in the public eye with flying colors. her husband prince william of course is in military duty and kate made her first speech as part of the royal family. >> reporter: it was the last remaining hurdle to be seen and heard. the duchess of cambridge has mastered the winning smile, gotten to grips with the discreet pleasantry and now in ipswich she arrived with a speech in her pocket. kate did first what she does best, putting children at their ease. but the focus here at the tree house hospice was on her first publi

we are putting the afghan security forces which includes the army, the national police, and stability operations of the localolice to fight the fight against the taliban. it is their flight at the end of the day. we are giving them the tools and training. they will have to decide whether they are going to stand up to the taliban and prevent them doing what they did in the 1990's. we are going to give them that chance. we are on that the path. you can not back off of it. we need to finish this hard work. it is hard and difficult. these kids are up to the task and will move forward. at the end of the day, it is their country. e are seeing some attentiotensn between the government and bus and moving through this transitional period. there will be some tension, but it is their country at the end of the day. we are on this path. we think it will work. we are moving forward. i trust general allan to give us a better evaluation in october or november 2012. host: gerald in texas brought up the fact that it rained. what is the drought outlook? what is the status of the drought? guest: it varies across the state. if y