there are sources, the defense minister spokesman, told by the afp.oach that have been trapped inside this cave. moments ago we were reported by a witness that there were three boys that were evacuated from that cave. what we do not know is if those three are part of the four. let's be clear there. i don't want anyone putting together that seven boys have come out. we know that four boys, according to the afp, are expected to walk out of this cave soon. we have live pictures now of the hospital about 35 miles away. we know these boys are going to be sent there for the obvious medical follow-up that's necessary. they've been in this cave in the dark for 15 days. >> we actually have our david mckenzie who has been following this story for days with us now all morning long bringing us those updates. david joining us from thailand near that cave. and david, just run through with us what's going on right now. >> reporter: what's going on is this extraordinary rescue operation which is still very much in progress. this could take hours yet. though there is,

the polls show they're under intense pressure from the far right afp, which is why they've moved somewhaty've moved somewhat to the right on this issue of immigration, which is why they're not backing down with merkel —— afp. this is spinning out of control and bringing down the government, sparking new elections, which could backfire on the cfa uecomm and lots would blame them for the crisis. —— cfu,. uecomm and lots would blame them for the crisis. -- cfu,. as every hour goes by, the merkel daldry brought back from brussels is thinning, people saying we haven't got the deal she says she has got —— merkel deal she says she has got —— merkel deal she. as that comes clear the more holes people are discovering. the irony is she's edgy came back with a political agreement, it is up to horst seehofer, the interior minister, to come up with the details —— she's just minister, to come up with the details —— she'sjust come back. we will have to see what happens. thanks very much. these two had a meeting on saturday and horst seehofer said on saturday he got nothing out of it, it was ineffective.

just have some pictures coming in from reuters and afp live from the scene.you those well we speak to our live correspondence, howard johnson who's at the cave. it is amazing that they survived and they were found. we know any more about how they survived. clearly they had water with them. we understand that before they went into the cave complex they were planning to celebrate a birthday party and had taken in some food with them. the feeling is that they had some food with them, obviously lots of water, it is free flowing, it is potentially drinkable. they we re it is potentially drinkable. they were found in a chamber close to a beach, a shelf that was raised above the water. it looked like in that area there was enough air to breathe through the week. they were obviously relatively dry. not immersed in the water. and when the divers found them last night they we re divers found them last night they were in relatively good spirits. they are clearly tough and they clearly have a great incentive now to get out. but a loss of cave rescue people are telling us

beyond looking for afp. but making sure there are resources to continue the work of those surveillance officers who are built within the health system. to be looking for other disease issues. global health security and hugely important part of that how did we get resources to continue to support those kinds of officers, keep them in place and keep that network in place. part of that gets to be the money. it relates to the ngo networks. that are well-placed to take on any number of health conditions you can imagine. they're part of the community, they're there by making sure we have ways to get the resources to continue to support those networks. this is critical. it gets do how the money has come. the money has come for polio. we've been able to use that and build the platforms. how can we start to evolve those resources to pay for more broader health systems kinds of investments, whether for surveillance, laboratories, ngo surveillance. >> so that is really second question, that's on the investment side, ri

not only about working for afp, but also about building that infrastructure for other things. and i think that looking for ways to talk about poll oio in longer stage is really important piece. other thing to do is talk about it as public health at infrastructure public level and increasingly countries are taking on more and more of the share of those costs at countries. less and less coming from done to donors, and countries that can't do that, but integral part what that country needs to be. and even as we do funding over the next couple of years to get domestic resources to pay for that, i think it's going to be really important. and part of the country level is key both for the ngo as well as surveillance officers though are there. but i do think it's going to be a tricky message, right, because it is certainly part of polio. and we've been saying that once you make these investments you don't have to make the investments anymore. but how do you talk about that in a fairway that really does continue to resonate. and i do think there has been over the last several years inc

not just for afp, but vaccine-preventable diseases and i wanted to hear more about how that community-based surveillance is actually looking not just for acute flaccid paralysis but other important diseases that affect the communities and part of the work is also looking at one-health approach. it's working with veterinary services and ensuring the one-health approach is being promoted and embraced and, again, it's meeting the community needs. i'll leave you with a question, and that is we know that in niger nigeria, the job is not done. there are many places that are still very silent. and as we speak, there are at least 100 islands that have not been accessed with, particularl the nigeria side. what are the plans to access these islands within a reasonable time and to ensure that essential services, including polio immunization, are delivered? thank you. >> we'll get henry. then we'll -- >> thank you. henry, again, from johns hopk s hopkins. as i listen to the presentations, i can't help but wonder about the potential, and i'd appreciate your comments on this, but the potential as we look

we have to have sufficient visibility through surveillance systems both afp and environmental surveillance for a minimum of three years to be able to certify and we have to intensively do surveillance and outbreak response. we have to plan, prep, and vaccinate in advance of global opc cessation, and we'll have to respond to any subsequent outbreaks of circulating vaccine derived polio virus. to do that, we have to enhance the ability to detect and respond. these outbreak responses are always high impact in terms of resources. they take up a lot of human capacity. i think we have about 48 in the horn of africa alone. there's probably over 100 and some staffing requests related to the on going circulating responses right now, country asking the global level, or regional level to provide staff to support them in their efforts in their countries. it's also financially very heavy. when nigeria had the wild polio virus outbreaks in the early 2000s, 2003 and 2004, it costs half a billion dollars to actually respond to those outbreaks. so, we can do this better if we respond earlier. we have to en

a lot of this has to do with the data that the afp, one of the offshoots of the koch network collectsre not sharing. at this idea that we heard even more stridently from steve bannon recently that the kochs need to shut up and get with the program, they have been in favor of drug legalization, criminal justice reform, they were against the iraq war. >> bret: they are libertarian. >> and they have $40 billion apiece. i don't want to sound like dana perino but there's a certain amount of squirrel you money that allows them to live up to their principles. of course she's the head of the republican party but that's not the koch networks job. >> they were very slow to embrace donald trump but when he started doing things that they approve dub like the tax cuts and deregulation, they like that. but they have certain principles. trade is one of them and they have so far decided not to support kevin kramer. >> allowed women of supporting grammar. >> i like the koch brothers because they dried the left crazy. the left portrays them as the evil power demons. i think this is just a fight among p

photographer here for afp and getty. as always would love to hear your thoughts. i am going to be reporting more tonight on trade with nbc nightly news with lester holt. right now stephanie ruhle picking up coverage. i feel like this is a super bowl day. trade, taf tariffs. >> then uber. that company has almost $80 billion valuation all built on growth. people outside the u.s. don't want it to grow that could be a problem. thank you. have a great day. >>> good morning everyone. i'm back. i am stephanie ruhle. my partner ali velshi off today. thursday, july 26. let's get smart. >> we have an outline, the first phase of that is to deal with the steel and aluminum tariffs and rye sip cal tariffs. and then an outline, as we've talked about yesterday, agriculture and chemicals and medical devices. so we're going to make a lot of progress. >> the president literally kissing and making up with the head of the european union. >> we're going towards zero tariffs. zero subsidies. >> the size between the two are actually almost identical. >> what concessions did the u.s. rea

photographer here for afp and getty. as always would love to hear your thoughts.ing to be reporting more tonight on trade with nbc nightly news with lester holt. right now stephanie ruhle picking up coverage. i feel like this is a super bowl day. trade, taf tariffs. >> then uber. that company has almost $80 billion valuation all built on growth. people outside the u.s. don't want it to grow that could be a problem. thank you. have a great day. >>> good morning everyone. i'm back. i am stephanie ruhle. my partner ali velshi off today. thursday, july 26. let's get smart. >> we have an outline, the first phase of that is to deal with the steel and aluminum tariffs and rye sip cal tariffs. and then an outline, as we've talked about