african political analysts. you spent the last ten days or week or so here lending your wisdom on this. doou think south africa has done itself proud? >> yes. there is nothing left to say, david, except go well and rest well, rest in peace. there is no one like you. there is no one like you. your loss is an immense one, but we are so grateful to have had you here. >> who can follow? >> every south african who believes in the vision of tata madiba who says as he did, i will lift my eyes to the sun, and i will point my feet forward and i will continue this walk towards the fulfillment of madiba's ideals. >> he was undoubtedly an extraordinary man, but do you think he would have been an extraordinary man in other time in different circumstances, or was what some people refer to these days as a perfect storm? mandela came along and there was discrimination and a struggle and there was the period of time in the late 1950s and early 1960s it all came together. >> almost the crews bell of fire, yes. if one listens to stories about mr. mandela's early life, his leadership qualities were recognized

how do we have this debate when we're all so touchy about the issue of race? >> i don't think it's just african-americans doing it against whites either. >> i don't either, but that's -- i i mean, i've seen the other too, but we've seen so much of it that that's where the debate is going. >> right. right. i miean the racial element turn it up ten fold. what we need to do is focus on getting fathers involved in their children's lives. we could talk about saying president obama needs to speak out about this, but i think on a grassroots level, we need to have families, in tact fathers having communication with their sons. eed to tell them there's t to do another way. you know, obama could talk about this all he wants. i think we have to handle this on a family structure level. we have to stop being scared of our kids. i mean we have communities where kids tend to rule things. and that needs to change. we have to start taking control and being parents again. and that's not taking place. >> james, thank you very much for joining us. love the journal sentinel, been reading it for years. >> thank you.

such a far-reaching and long-term effect on the american people, just as mandela did on the south africans. do you see anybody who is anywhere near the mantle of your father to take up that kind of spiritual leadership in america? >> i don't know. there is great preachers in this country and great men of god and i'm sure god will raise up. my father, this is not a position my father tried to obtain. it wasn't something he lobbied for or worked for. it's something god did. if you ever, piers, see a turtle on a fence post, you'll know that turtle did not get there by himself and my father always felt he was somewhat of a turtle on a fence post. he realizes that god put him in that position that he had all those years. >> i've been spending the week talking to my sons about mandela, explaining why his legacy is so important. i would imagine if they ask me questions about your father, what would you think would be the best way to articulate what his legacy should be? >> my father has preached the same message and that's god's gospel, that god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son t

was taken.y it is the second time in five months thieves have targeted the retired south african archbishop . do not forget leon harris and scott thuman are in south africa right now for all the events honoring nelson mandela. live reports tonight at 5:00 and 6:00. at noon, we have got yet another new twist in the redskins saga. ps bn reporter reporting mike it will started sunday afternoon in atlanta. that means the face of the franchise, rg iii, will sit on the bench. >> the washington redskins headed to sunday's matchup with a less than stellar record of 3- 10. with a name controversy still in the spotlight, the skins are making national headlines yet again. start griffin iii, quarterback, would be benched against the falcons. has alreadysays he given up on the season. his take on the qb switch -- cannot argue. >> the quarterback was also drafted by the skins two seasons ago. a standout at michigan state and stepped in for rg iii when he was injured last season. thenys they did a good job and he expects them to do a good job now. >> he might have a hidden talent they do not know. it is about

do not get to bailout. about 35 percent of african americans do not get to bailout whereas white americans are right around 27 percent. but i think the problem we face is that we have not come up with good predictors of risk. and often the dialogue that occurs between a judicial officer and a district attorney and a defense attorney where there is a public defender or private counsel is really a discussion that is based on perhaps the individuals current offense, it maybe based on the individual's history of offending. it's really not a scientific way of having a discussion around safety and around flight risk. often many of the people that are given very high dollar bails are people where the bench is looking where all the intents and purpose there is no real bail that is because this person is a real risky person or perceived to be risky and perhaps a better response to this ought to be if we think this person and property is risky, there should be no bail. conversely if there is a way to evaluate that a person is not a danger to society and because of their evaluation of them that they will show up for

people live in african huts, which is fine, africans do that. in terms of toilets, you have pit latrines instead of the toilets we know. children use candles late at night. there's a lot of poverty here and a lot of development needs to be done. that said, the people seem happy. when you meet the young boys herding the cattle and run around herding the cattle, they're singing and happy and spend the whole day out there doing that. the elders in the villages sit and discuss things in the community. this person saw that. that person is having problems with their marriage. can we do this? it's the whole community setup. the thing about the community is that everyone knows each other. you know who your neighbor is. you say hello and good afternoon to them. if someone is sick, you fw and see them. if someone dies, you go to the funeral. there's a community sense here. it's one big family. the tribes are enter interconnected as well. it's one big family. like i said, people are a bit confused as to why those from nelson mandela's tribe and clan are to

far-reaching and such a long-term effect on the american people, just as mandela did on the south africans. do you see anybody who is anywhere near the mantle of your father to take up that kind of spiritual leadership for america? >> i don't know, there are some great preachers in this country, some great men of god. and i'm sure that god will raise up somebody. my father -- this is not a position that my father tried to attain. it was not something he located for or worked for, it is just something that god did. and piers, if you ever see a turtle on a fence post, you will know the turtle did not get there by himself, and my father has always thought he was something like a turtle on a fence post. he realizes that god put him in that position, that he had all of those years. >> and i spent time during the week talking to my sons about mandela, explaining why his legacy is so important. i would imagine if they asked me questions about your father, what would you think would be the best way to articulate what his legacy would be? >> my father has preached the same message, and that is god's go

cho, how do south africans envision their future now that mandela is gone? >> right, well, nelson mandela's dream is that all people live equally, regardless of their race, and, of course, regardless of the color of their skin. many believed him, but some are less than enthusiastic when it comes to things about the future. the wealth gap has grown here, as it has elsewhere. more black people have joined the middle class and are enjoying a better lifestyle, but they are still among the select few. for equality, rights have not translated to equality in the standard of living. the poverty rate stands at more than 50%. one in four is unemployed. the crime rate is still high. and there have been some social unrest. security forces opened fire striking miners, mining workers, in august of last year. 34 died and 84 were wounded. i spoke with some yesterday, i spoke yesterday with some miners, and they said the shootings made them feel as though they were back in the apartheid era. >> how do south africans view their current roster of leaders? >> many see some as c

but as you do with visitation from someone and expanded miracle month to discuss and debate on top says defence force's be getting antsy the central african republic to protect the government of mike with that idea. no the go than the people. so today i honor you and for the position carefully. and the resolution is written in order to do to draw lines for peace in central africa and the first step is to stop violence that's usually what the almighty all for unity when the day there's an intermission it was the one and nineteen kong will ever wear this to stop violence when the violence to stop than that candid discussion and the political process and discussion but must post of the violence and that's why the french forces of good and easy that they can do that without taking sides the world see the doll too so it's probably the two so it's on on the making of an atrocity. so you will not fix on it all pointing to two songs off of it at the make of that d do you think the french government said that friends tapes or something that's in the same joke of an otc basic be completely neutral. i'm just up the two sides from providing a single

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south africans doing what they always do, they sing in times of happiness and in times of hardship.s noise, this celebration, this la meant you hear behind me has been going on literally since thursday night. people singing over and over again, nelson mandela, nelson mandela, there's no one like you. now, many of these south africans behind me felt like they had a personal closeness with nelson mandela. they owe so much to him. and he had that way with people. his family saying today that he had time for everyone, kings and queens, rich or poor, great or small. and, in fact, one of those people was bill clinton, the former u.s. president. i spoke to him on nelson mandela's 94th birthday outside mandela's home and he asked him what mandela meant to him personally. >> personally, he's been a wonderful friend to me. you know, when we were working together, we were both presidents of our countries. we had a lot of business to do. we often had to do it in telephone calls where it was very late in america and very early in south africa. and i always tried to do the late side because out o

the african peacekeeping force is next to arrive. there's little to do. everyone here has fled. this was an african family home. now look at it. it's hardly any surprise the level of fear, the level of insecurity. people look to the african peacekeeping force, but they are here too late to do anything about this. the situation is more critical by the day. the reason, the cycle of violence is deeply set. the african peacekeepers fought bravely, but dozens of people died in a place mired in displace and the will to seek revenge. >> translation: those in security should do more to stop this. otherwise christian houses will be set on fire. >> almost a 6-hour drive from the capital we encounter the vigilantes. they rose against the alliance, bringing down the briefious government. >> seleka people are human being. if they live with us in harmony everything will be all right. they turn the guns towards us, we die in large numbers. >> back here they are former fighters in the army transitional government. there are plans to disarm them. the commander says it shouldn't happen to a nation

china has gone into the african markets. i missed doing very very well. and now they're trying to serve three jobs i think that's what that's one of the themes are also just that the facts the facts of life you know is the use of the car and mobile development moles in africa doing too well to begin to be sustainable. it's one thing to have to come through tweets we've seen in the last two years is the month of africa's commodities is going opposite correspondent makes the point but is that is that going to turn into a real manufacturing and industrial base in africa that will make that growth sustainable for over a billion people in all though was that many people in africa is over and china had less than twenty years of expansion. indeed in other words that make the transition. i would think that it's my own thing that's funny. i also wanna thank you for joining us from durham north carolina. she demanded i'm going to leave you again that more coverage to come here uncle stan katz of that summit and of course the reactions to the death of nelson mandela

it's true that many african leaders do much time to expect. lol as can say it's fake reporter approached her berlusconi you know french presidents were returned. it is also the ritalin is affordable for commuters. the question here too. it is. what's with the cats. question is would it be only about pictures the name. all we could be about critique of progress against altitude for justice coleridge. especially friends here. two households of my cheek approach became its own him afterwards. you see on the disparate pieces. is that the point where it's this month reports this you need to cough are very concrete ordered to kill approach to the back is going to be an instrument or announcements it's a true pro programs or perhaps with the words. dad and of course dismantling the part that he had to do it he reached across the aisle he reached across to the people were perpetrated up our tent. perhaps he's very few examples of that in the world. maybe it's because the velvet revolution the czech republic or something that we were growing up too cut

, and what the leadership was aspiring to do, to make the decisions that would help us fight the struggle that the south africaneople were fighting in resisting apartheid. >> is one thing to work alongside dr. king, but with regards to nelson mandela, for 27 years he was behind bars. what do you recall about working alongside one of the star -- stalwart leaders of this movement, to end the apartheid, when he was mostly behind bars at that time. >> it was a very touching and exciting and rewarding experience. visit a man who had been selected by the leadership, to lead the anc during nelson mandela's incarceration. he was given the power and the authority to give instructions to the rest of us who were in the service of that cause. i often heard nelson mandela's voice very clearly through the things that he was doing. it became apparent that we were getting closer and closer to the time when mandela would be freed. many of us looked to that with a great sense of hope, but i never thought i would live long enough to see him released from prison. but he was released -- and i was instructed to help them prepare for

i have the resolution that they have in front of them which authorizes african peacekeepers to do this work, to go to the central african republic. there are some already there, but the resolution talks about 3,500 going they will be backed by 1,000 french soldiers. it is that plan that will be voted on. it is very much a compromise plan, because there were other options on the table for the security council. one of those options from the u.n. secretary general was for him to actually send a u.n. force, u.n. blue helmeted soldiers going. what i think is interesting is he said that if he had to provide the troops, he wanted 6,000 troops on the ground. he said that if the situation on the ground was not per missive, and it you seems from everything we're seeing today it's not, he'd need 9,000, so compare the figure that he thought he needed to do the job, 9,000 to what they are going to be authorizing. some are concerned that the u.n. security council is offering a half measure here. >> compromise is being made on what is a very complex situation in an unstable african country. >> a very

the first african-american to do so. $200 million. tbs for 100 episodes of "house of payne."erry meets with royalty and the oprah winfrey network. he has been credited with making the network profitable. >> i will keep work. >> tyler perry is now worth more than $400 million. the business of being tyler perry is self made with a hollywood ending. >> i have everything that i want in this life. i'm happy. >> he has a formula that absolutely works. how does he do it? >> everything you see tyler perry does, it says "tyler perry presents." that is step one. he knows his audience. he caters to his audience. he doesn't take the black audience for granted. hollywood did that for years. he cajoled and caressed the african-american audience. if you watch every one of his films, they all have a religious aspect. he doesn't stray from that. he doesn't get away from it. he sticks with it. it is what works with him. other people now starting to take notice. hollywood takes notice. they are not taking the african-american dollar for granted anymore. >> he is certainly -- he has hit, struck

african leaders don't do that. they usually leave horizontally.hat set the path for africa that had never been there before. so he's a man of the ages. >> finally as we watch this period of mourning, what should we know about modern south africa, such a young country but they had such a relationship with him often calling him father. often saying about old age it's time for him to rest. >> yes. and what people don't realize, it's a very young country. so the majority of people never really experienced nelson mandela as a leader. but the legacy of bringing people together, the legacy of bridging black and white, the legacy of bringing old and new is something that should live on for them. and i think it's a very hopeful time for them and should be. and it is the rainbow nation as he called it. >> rick stengel, a joy to have you here tonight as we remember this towering life. thank you. >>> we'll take a break. we'll have much more coming up on the passing of nelson mandela. up next, tom brokaw who covered mandela's long fight for freedom will be wit

do our own thing. we have to break the grip that white south africans have on our economy, our government, our educationalystem, and do our own black thing. while there were people on the other side who said no, no, after 300 years we all have a stake in whatever country this is going to become. you cannot have an afro-centric, a black-centric future? >> there were those who felt there we should have a non-racial society, bring people in different walks of life and different political opinion together, and we should you have a nation brought together by reconciliation and move forward. there were some people who felt that we should, as you put it, do our own black thing. but those were in the minority. most people. most people who i came in contact with felt we should talk together. when the negotiations happened, the proposed talks of national government unity, there was a great sense that we could pull our nation together. many people struggled and suffered for many years believing that we can come together as a nation and move forward. >> we'll take a short break and when we return we'll talk more with

party, generally speaking that doesn't look as welcoming maybe as it once did, that is doing more talking to africanstead of opening an african-american engagement sent we are they are going to do an awful lot of talk, maybe they ought to take another look at their platform and make sure that it answers the needs of the people that will living in places like detroit and los angeles and birmingham and atlanta and st. louis, maybe a two-way conversation is really what's necessary. >> so, mentioned jack kemp, this was jack kemp, 1996, bob dole's running mate you can great dole/kemp ticket. everybody remembers that. this is what jack kemp sounded like. give you a taste of that. >> we cannot forget, my friends, that a single mom and her children in this country cannot be left out of our great revolution for this country. the american society as a whole can never achieve the outer reaches of its potential so long as it tolerates the inner cities of despair. >> it is interesting, first of all, i don't know everybody around this table knew jack kemp. i certainly did. he was sorter of the republican version

what they are doing with african-americans, they have reenergized the african-american base for democratsby not doing anything on comprehensive immigration reform, which is the big hall mark of the autopsy, they have turned off, generally speaking, latino voters to the republican party. if you look at some of the polls that came out before i believe latino voices did a poll that showed while folks would vote democratic, if you asked them if they were liberal or conservative latino were mostly conservative. republicans were leaving votes on the table. talking african-americans and latinos at the moment. you could add women, you could add young people, lesbian, gay, transgender, if the republican party wants to remain a minority party at the can tip to say no to all of those constituency. >> and jonathan capehart gets the last word. >> i'd snap. >> you did a verbal snap. >>> coming up breaking in the last hour a federal junlg ruled detroit eligible to file chapter 9 bankruptcy. we'll discuss motor city and pension problems when detroit's mayor dave bing joins us just ahead. across the count

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african cosmopolitan place. it's a cafÉ where people come and do spoken word, sort of like louder than a bomb.except in five or six or seven languages. and, you know, you'll walk in there and somebody will begin a poem and then lapse into english. have a little zulu, go into afrikan and somehow that entire group of 300 people gets enough of the gist of what's going on to have the experience of that kind of cross-cultural exchange ing. that means people who grew up speaking 11 different languages are in the room together and having one conversation. so i think there's a ton that we have to learn about that. i think even though it will sound odd to say, i think we have a ton to learn about how to talk about race from south africans, even though they're much more recently out of a politics defined by an extreme, strange form of racial segregation. there's much more open can conversation about -- open conversation about race in johannesburg or capetown or durbin or if you're in a township outside johannesburg, then we have, we tend to have two conversations going on; one in our heads and then what

. >> do south africans miss it, not only from sout south africat all over the world miss it, to where he will be entumed? >> verentumed -- tombed? >> each day at the end of the day his coffin will be transported back to the military air base where it's being kept overnight. tomorrow morning the procession will once again make its way through the streets of pretoria, and will be brought here for another day's viewing, that will happen on friday, given ample time for people from south africa, and indeed from the world, to file past the casket and pay their respects. there will be further speeches made in that amphitheater, the nelson mandela amphitheater. i have been told by officials that time was limited at yesterday's meaferl service and there were many -- memorial service. representing countries, representing organizations, representing many of the interest groups throughout the world that nelson mandela's life affected so much. >> we look forward to hearing that. thank you mike. >>> meanwhile outside the union buildings people are gathering to celebrate mandela's life. ♪ >> the moo

how do young south africans, how do they view nelson mandela versus their parents or their grandparentsn and the young generation here in the united states of america. they took a vote for a people who bled for it versus a generation who were born having it. that's similar to how the generations in south africa have spoken about when it comes to mandela. for young south africans, that is the point of movements. the point is they do not inherit the brutality and the trauma their parents had to suffer. the journey for them is to build on the political freedom of nelson mandela and the movement that he was part of created and work on economic freedom. still deep, deep economic inequality. >> and the language itself, for a long time, this was one of the major issues of the '60s and '70s. that was viewed as the language of the oppressor. for this 18-year-old to say, it's not that big a deal -- i want to pose something to you, gail. esther mentioned the economic divide in south africa. we also know that there are major labor issues, nearly three dozen minors who were shot and killed over the

hasn't it in four african nations or lists the my very coast libya mali and the central african republic what do you think is behind this trend well the french are tuned to reestablish some authority and some national interest in areas where they will fall in the colonial era but the more immediate concern is that this is an issue just an introduction the prevention of this a true move first spreading through the straits right across from the horn of africa to the sale of margrove and internet. and also to try and discredit its numbers to extremism which is which is giving off this kind of intolerance. and the french also have some other objectives in mind today in securing their own national interests around. ensuring that europe. decisively and in the way militarily not necessarily make you matters worse as you reach up and in europe and what specific national interests can you tell us about france and the central african republic then. well the french have a long relationship with this area going back to before nine hundred sixty when the became independent and it's a trading relationship is

this woman is also doing south african. she's doing the same type of translation he is.re doing very different things. what do you pick up here, john? >> very different. again, interpretations will vary from interpreter to interpreter because of the lens they bring to the job and how they choose to represent the message. this woman is actually creating phrases. it looks like she's using actual language. this is not. >> right? okay. just to be clear about it, your best guess, is this man a trained translator. >> no, absolutely not. >> he doesn't really know what he's doing? schizophrenia, you're not a psychologist, i understand, but if that were the cause, when we looked at an earlier example of him translating, we noted the same types of traits. have you ever heard of somebody having some type of breakdown that destroyed their ability to translate? >> i have not. if the person knew sign language, one would assume that regardless of their mental state they would actually still be able to create language for themselves. this is not sign language. >> obviously i don't mean

also this do the drop in lieu of the african press association thank you for being with us here for the world this week for this week retailers join the conversation on facebook and twitter are at and t w t w. it's the most a fall from grace north korea has seen since the nineteen seventies state media. first publishing photos of jennings some fake being taken away and then announcing the execution. of the man who was none other than president kim's uncle often described as the mentor of pyongyang's thirty year old ruler the despicable human scum time was worse than that on perpetrated thrice cursed acts of treachery and betrayal of the proponent trust and warmest paternal love shown by the party and the leader of the idea andy murray will the offense catching everybody off guard and we're all now busy trying to leave them on the line with each other. because frankly we don't really have much information on what is going on in pyongyang now and that's by design we won't have much information on what's going on in pyongyang this is a closed society if one still exists on the planet. a lo

the heights of his own presidency and he embraced white south africans because he understood that the economy of south africa would not do well without the intentions of those white south africans being brought into the larger circle of south african economic and political privilege. so he understood that. but at the same time what he understood is that justice had to be done and that black people who had been long denied must now be recognized as human beings. so he didn't dismiss the humanity of white people, he embraced it by insisting that the humanity of black africans could be joined with the humanity of white africans and others. so they will remember him if they are righteous as a man who indeed saved their nation. >> all right. dr. eric dyson, please stay with us. joining me now someone who was outside the home in johannesburg, south africa. if you could tell us the scene outside the mandela home and the reaction of those who are outside the home tonight. good evening. >> reporter: good evening to you. close to 1:00 in the morning, actually. in the last hour or so, we've seen a string of relatives of nelson mand

. >> host: at some point we do read in history for immerse slaves african-american were allowed to attend harvard do in jail but at what point to that change? >> it has been since stages at different points with the revolutionary era for the first black people that come to campus as students is right after the revolution in the number of presidents at these early schools actually begin taking black students for the private study. >> host: for what reason? >> some are affected of the of rhetoric. the call for liberty and justice sexually resonates and they begin to question the debate. in the aftermath of the of revolution this even happened on southern campuses. >> host: really? >> guest: college faculty and student debates the of question quite a bit. >> host: that we would recognize we talk about northeastern. >> georgia, north carolina university of north carolina has the abolitionists speaker at its graduation in the early 19th century but they publish the speeto did is circulated. >> host: are these individuals that live in the slave holding states that you write about in your book "

adam clifford has the details the french president told african leaders they should do more to do this for their own security but said france would offer our hands the drones promised the training of twenty pies and african soldiers for years. and francis help with creating a special african rapid reaction force for the summit comes at the after the un security council gave the green light to a friend stopped its resolution the kids friends in african trips the temporary right to use force to protect civilians in the island's torn central african republic little did i know least african forces friends but emphasize their need for supports check your state yet the best results. we all nodded their own inadequacies these shortcomings. your weaknesses. yup the mississippi to set up and it's been neat to compare african forces to respond to any threat. well at all but given us the french president also partly dependent the international criminal court's after it's been strongly criticized by some african lead as he came to pick up to me. one of the tv on top of the most serious crimes comm

he left peacefully, he provide add platform, and he was the first african president to do that. it's unfortunate, though, that it isn't yet the order of the day. open on the civil rights front, the that he showed how to be humble in service. is robin sanders former ambassador to nigeria, it is great to see you again, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> we are continuing to get reaction, democratic congressman of new york joins us now on the telephone. relost a remarkable man, whose life and legacy will forever transcend. he is a man that history will be talking about i believe we have lost -- >> yes. >> hello? >> request you still her mae? >> yeah. >> congressman are you there? >> yes. great, you were just continuing about your thoughts about nelson mandela. and i have been thinking very much about the links between nelson mandela, and people of color around the world, and what he means to them, can you talk about that? >> nelson mandela is an individual that i think all freedom loving and peace loving people look up to and will continue to look up t

african national congress was formed. by 1961, it had been radicalized by the influence of a young nelson mandela, among others, and formed an armed wing called the spear of the nation. >> dodevelop in this country without being pushed out? >> we have made it very clear in our policy that south africa is a country of many races. there is room for all the various races. >> in 1963, mandela was charged with sabotage and conspiracy and sentenced to life imprisonment on robben island. it would take another 27 years of silence and injustice before the inevitable would happen. >> do you believe in apartheid? >> i believe, according to god's will, that the white race should be preserved. >> with south africa's white minority under international sanctions, internal political pressure and the decline of the communist threat, mandela was released from prison in 1990. in '94, he was elected president of the new, free south africa. ♪ there have been very few figures in the entire history of the world as revered or as important as nelson mandela. but the question is, what happens next? ♪ >> johannesburg or joburg or jozi. the largest city by population in south africa, and the economic

african crisis. remember that at the beginning and end sick and are doing to listen to the assembly time. centro african civil society organizations were invited to come with it for training this year. don't get too into caves where it is something to be done intention to commit to end the civil society organization also point out several attacks in kenya we have ousting of peasant was easy. maybe our suspicions and that of easy to become innocent african coming in and see the empathy that way when it is an awesome is that i need a day there is a visor hasn't heard that when it comes to a solution it's a civil society placing bets that the template to a bassist and president obama intends to add essential to good people earlier this week said exactly this that the civil society should be also about the political debates conveniently because the motions because the arrogant ones who else can know what's happening there outside of the political and then everything that we talked about at the beginning of the program and the ugly grouping in the morning eminence. regarding the deep deep deep

in a way, what people are doing here is thanking madiba for helping elevate many poor black south africans into the middle class by ushering in democracy and becoming the country's first democratically elected president. on this street today, you will find restaurants and bars and middle class south africans spending their disposable income in a place where it wouldn't have been possible decades ago. and indeed, this will also be the location of the first official memorial service for nelson mandela on tuesday at the stadium which is also significant because it was the last location he made an appearance in public during the closing ceremonies for the world cup. so as is true in many other locations in the country, these celebrations will continue. it's just day one of ten days of a country thanking one man for bringing transformative change to millions. >> it's after midnight already there and there are still a lot of folks. are the crowds getting bigger or smaller, and what about security? >> reporter: these crowds are growing as people come and go. there are crowds going up and down the

do about the escalating violence. we know that the united nations security down is voting to boost possibly african -- on the ground as well, as the moment, it's very limited about what these portions can do. and there's no one here protecting civilians. >> also live for us at the united nations in new york, so james, they pass add resolution, how quickly can those extra troops get there. >> well, i think that's one of the big questions. this was a resolution that was passed unanimously, lauren, but it was a compromise resolution. i think that's why it was unanimous. we have 3,500 african peace keepers. 1,200 french. we believe most of the french over there by the end of the year. but i think what is worth bearing in mind, the u.n. secretary general when he was asked to come up with options, one of his optioning was to send a full blue elemented force, and he said that if the conditions were dangerous on the ground and it is clear from the report, it is extremely dangerous right now, he'd need 9,000 troops on the ground. now that's double what they have agreed to do with today's resolution, appoint, i put the u.s. amb

what are african-american leaders doing about it? he very beginning there was criticism back in the '08 campaign, even some african-americans were trying to pressure president obama in being more aggressive in talking about race. there was serious criticism that his cabinet was just too white, and then you had earlier this year ben jealous, the former president of the naacp, who stepped down and said, in effect, that the african-american community is about back to where it was before president obama got elected and said that while whites are doing fairly well, blacks have actually dropped a point. and he was specifically referring to the idea that poverty has gone up and the median income for blacks has gone down during the obama administration. jenna: carl cameron live in d.c., thank you. gregg: big changes to obamacare, the white house announcing new rules that could impact millions of americans. we're going to take a closer look at what that may mean for you. >>> and we're awaiting a year-end news conference from president obama. h

the french have stepped up and african union stepped up. i do the united nations will step up. we should be helping to fund and facilitate that sort of important work and help recreate stability and security so that international humanitarian groups can get in and provide access and help to those starving and who have health care problems. we need to support a transition back to democracy. there was a coup back in martha set all of this in motion but happened because there was a long term grinding crisis in this country, one of poorest in the world. >> you bring up doctors without borders, an open letter was actually sent too the u.n. from that group and said they express their deep concern about the unacceptable performance of the united nations humanitarian system. your thoughts on that open letter and those concerns? >> well, that's right. they repeated that in testimony yesterday. they were very concerned that the u.n. was slow to act. in our own government we have something called the atrocities prevention board created after the rwanda gen

. >> the africans will triumph -- fragiles on the basis of one man, one vote, and one political vote. >> do see africans being able to develop in this country without the europeans pushed out on? >> we have made it very clear in our policy that south africa is a country of many races. there is room for all races in this country. my mother and my grandmother are very old fashioned. i think we both are clean freaks. i used to scrub the floor on my knees. [ daughter ] i've mastered the art of foot cleaning. oh, boy. oh, boy. oh, boy. [ carmel ] that drives me nuts. it gives me anxiety just thinking about how crazy they get. [ doorbell rings ] [ daughter ] oh, wow. [ carmel ] swiffer wetjet. you guys should try this. it's so easy. oh, my. [ gasps ] i just washed this floor. if i didn't see it i wouldn't believe it. [ carmel ] it did my heart good to see you cleaning. [ regina ] yeah, your generation has all the good stuff. [ daughter ] oh, yeah. >>> you see, i wasn't born into a political family. i was not active in student government in high school. but when i was in college, there was one iss

what you see african-americans doing on television and so forth.ve, we are not going out there and saying -- >> all right. >> i got to jum in guys. >> that is going to have to be the last word on this. but i appreciate you coming in and weighing in on this latest element that is going on right now. >> a ship with dozens people onboard stuck in the ice we'll have the latest on the rescue mission. we will be right back. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because you can't beat zero heartburn. woo hoo! [ male announcer ] prilosec otc is the number one doctor recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 8 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. frequent heartburn medicine for 8 straight years. >>> the ship carrying 74 people trapped in ice and stranded off the coast of antarctica. three icebreaking vessels rushing to help rescue those stranded onboard. john honey hunt is live in new york city. how dangerous is this for those on board? >> for the 74 people on board, greg, there isn't any immediate danger

during that interview, i think there is a sense that africans do feel a sense of thankfulness for what appreciate did for hiv/aids and anti-retroviral drugs. i did put it to him, about mandela's force criticism and tony blair, ahead of the iraq war. he called president bush a president that can't think properly. >> when i put it to president bush that he had been fiercely criticized, president bush in his very president bush kind of way shrugged it off and said he wasn't the only one. i think there is a general sort of acceptance that mandela was fiercely critical of many people. he could, because he was mandela. but there was still the innate sense of respect for him. >> rick stengel, you're joining us as well. you knew nelson mandela so well, working on the autobiography and others as well. >> let's face it, chris, nelson mandela is today south africa's greatest export. it's what people know about the country. its grand south africa. i think the south african government is exploiting that in a positive way because they want people to have a positive impression of south africa. this i

when we start discussing the situation in african countries such as mali or central african republic. >> but others do not want to hand over too much power to brussels. >> it makes sense for nation states to cooperate over matters of defense to keep us all safer. it's in all our interests, but it is not right for the european union to have capabilities, armies, air forces, and the rest of it. >> with many countries reducing their budgets, the french president has raised the idea of a common emergency fund for operations. >> let's go straight to that summit now and our correspondent. first off, tell us about this banking union. what about critics who say it means to much centralization? >> in the sense that the structure has been set up by finance ministers is way too complicated, critics are saying that what is needed is a tour that enables the european union or the eurozone to close down banks overnight, if you will, if that bank has problems, but the finance ministers have come up with a very complicated mix of competencies, and ultimately, the last stable say with a group of finance ministers, and