certainly the average income is lower than the other age groups over age 25. while it might sound like a substantial income, it is an average. but that means is that there are people below and above it. bringing the number of words. when you look at the break down in the second chart, the one on the bottom, showing the percentage of the population in different age groups and income groups, you will see that those 65 and over, there is a high concentration of them. much higher than for the other segments of the population. indicating that there are a large number of low-income seniors in san francisco. at the same time there are those with means and to have high incomes. but they are smaller percentage of the population. supervisor avalos: were you able to break that down by household income probably more individuals, with the say? -- would you say? >> certainly by household. for comparison, here are the other large cities in california. age 6865, with the median in those five large cities, 15% of the population over 60. whereas in san francisco, between 2006 a

age. what is the myth of the new old age? >> guest: this is a new old age is that we are all -- baiji we've i really mean people who are not old now. the age in the boomers, people in their 50s and early 60s now and in their forties. but our old age is going to be lived in a way that's totally different from the way in which old age has been lived in the past, that we are going to all be skydiving centenarians, i like to think of it that way. [laughter] that we are simply going to get older, but not actually old. >> host: and so why do you think the culture is invested in sugar coating old age? >> guest: well, it's really interesting. when i was growing up like all of the oldest boomers in the 1950's, i would say that attitudes toward old age were - in a particular way. old age was just something that started the minute amana retired and she returned home to bother his wife. her only role was to be the grand mother to her grandchildren, and that was whole idea, not just of old age, but of

there's a difference between the way people age and places age. so you all age day by day with every day, year by year with every year. societies age in different ways. so when we say japan is theest society in the world, it's not because it's existed the longest of any place in the world, it's because the median age has been pushed up, because the groups of older people are disproportionately large compared to what they have been historically. and just about any way you can measure an aging society, japan is it and most of the world is going that way. now, why does this happen? well, one reason is that we are living longer. and when we live longer, we push up the average. but that's not the big reason. there are other big reasons why societies age, and the number one reason is that we're having smaller families. this relates to longevity, it relates to our increased health, it relates to all the reasons that give us increased health. but families are smaller nearly everywhere in the world except for a handful of places. families are about half or

but our old age is going to be lived in a way that is totally different from the way old age has been lived in the past, that we are going to all the sky and diving i like to think of it. but we are simply going to get older, but not actually old. >> host: why do you think the culture likes sugarcoating old age? >> guest: it's very interesting. when i was growing up like the oldest boomers in the 1950's, i would say that attitudes toward old age were negative in a particular age. old age started the minute amana retired and returned home to bother his wife. her only role was to be their grandmother to her grandchildren, and that was the whole idea not just of old age but of anybody that was retired in their 60s. now i think we have had a great corrective to that in which the aarp has had the role we now understand people over 65 can do a lot of things and their only role isn't just lying around the house watching tv and working after the grand kids and the new age's that's taken over is this, it's great to be old as long as you don't exhibit any of the typical problems of old age, and

age. what is the myth of the new old age? >> guest: the myth of an old age, we are all -- people that are not old. the aging boomers people in the 50s and early 60s and 40s. but our old is going to be lived in a way that's totally different from the way in which old age has been lived in the past. that we are going to all be sky diving -- yeah, that we are simply going to get older, but not actually old. >> host: so why do you think the cultures invested in sugar coating old age? >> well, it's very interesting. now when i was growing up, like all of the oldest boomers in the 1950s, i would say that attitudes toward old age were negative in a particular way. just old age was just something that started the minute a man retired. and he returned home to bother his wife. and her only role was to be the grandmother to her grandchildren, and that was the whole idea. not just of old age, but just of anybody who was retired in their 60s. now i think we've had a great corrective to that. which aarp has had a role in in the sense that

iraq, age 21, unemployment, 15.3. yemen, age 18, unemployment 35. iran, age 26, unemployment 14.6. and finally, the kingdom of bahrain, age 30, unemployment, 3.7%. bahrain, by the way, is a key u.s. ally in the persian gulf. it hosts the u.s. navy's fifth fleet, which keeps the persian gulf open for oil transport to the rest of the world. 35% of the world's oil passes through this persian gulf. the persian gulf is also a strategic area for the fifth fleet fth fleet to monitor iran's activity. question, what explains the explosive protests in the middle east, especially these 10 nations, pat buchanan? >> i think tunisia. ape dictator who could be knocked over, he was gone in a matter of days. suddenly it goes to egypt. this is 1848, john. as it happened all across europe. it's happened across the middle east. but bahrain is key. it's an island of about 500,000 natives, about 70% and 30% sunni and foreign workers and they've been shooting them on the streets on friday after services. in the mosques. what will happen there, john, i think they're going to put that down with force of ar

requirement. -- we havee, cminus the -- we have, minus the changing of the age requirement. chairperson nolan: why don't we hear the speakers. >> starting with [unintelligible] chris fulkerson, [unintelligible] charles rathbone. >> first of all, and want to complain in the strongest possible terms about the sheer number of items. this is a good example of what i was talking about earlier. there is too much to say. these items merit closer discussion than the two minutes or so you can give. i understand that director hiashi need to get things done, but the same complaint. i want to make sure it is understood that i believe it is extremely evil to make people pay a quarter of a million dollars for low-income jobs. that said, the dates and gas requirement -- gate and gas requirement makes sense. you are participating in banking when you make a requirement like that. there is something else going on at the end of the duration that is not being discussed. that is that these bankers are offering balloon payment loans. you can find a home for $0.25 million. such a loan is illegal.

we'll not have that age again. i mean, the age of the generalist, of the amateur is gone.cannot return. but it's far too specialized a world for that. but it doesn't mean we can'tome look back and try, perhaps, torm draw some of the good things from that age and maybe not be quite so judgmental about credentials. >> and i encourage you a way to do that is to read julia's book. and i think we're out of time.'l we really appreciate it. i believe there'll be books foro you to sign --now >> there will, indeed. >> i don't know exactly well, but somewhere around here. >> thank you all so much.wi if there's more questions, we'll take them. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> this program first aired in 2008. and to see other archived booktv programs, visit booktv.org. >> this coming monday booktv will be live online from the historic synagogue in washington, d.c., a palestinian doctor argues for an end to the bloodshed between the israelis and palestinians. his book tells the story of his three daughters who were killed by israeli forces during the 2009 raid on gaza. at 7 p.m

once hit that age, you can expect a few perks, but what exactly is that age. at wa age do we become -- at what age too we become seniors, that's tonight's good question. >> s -- so you consider yourself a senior? no i don't. i think of myself as and 18- year-old. >> what's your driver's license say? >> it's one of those weird things that has no defining parameters. when do we become sr. citizens? >> it isn't necessarily an age, it's a state of mind. >> in our society, sr. age requirements are all over the place. >> social security is 62 and 65. medicare is 65. retirement communities are 55 plus in order to get the news pool and the quiet condo. aarp, we are 50 and older. >> when you ask mature adults whether they consider themselves seniors, you are likely to get answers like this. >> some age older than i am. >> 85. >> why 85. >> because my father started seeming older when he turned 85. >> things are different today. a lot of boomers simply aren't ready to go there yet. >> it's kind of associated with retirement. our is he referral says that 80% of -- our re

i was happy to see the report and i was happy that they used the age of 64 aging. that is the same age that the older americans act uses. also, that is a age at which people ought to start thinking about when they retire, if they have not already, if they have not gotten sick or lost their job. it is nice to see that standardized. it is 20% of our population. one thing missing in the report, they need to identify the tenderloin as a neighborhood with a high concentration of seniors. it seems to have slid into pulp gulch when they read the report. on the chip's program, we still have a more active program. i think that one certainly needs to be restored. if they got permission, they did it in residential hotels or as a rose -- as sorrows -- sros. for years we have talked about in law apartments and secondary housing. i remember supervisor thomas shea wanted to implement more housing. he found so many problems that nothing happened. but the idea of exempting certain people from some of the rental projections to rent out a better room may be a good possibility. senior

it was a convenient age to use. >> it seems to me that it is a very significant point. it sounds to me like a baby sitters as opposed to a small child. the time of day is a good question that somebody raises. let's say we were going to go through different hours. it seems like it could be a logistical nightmare. >> and the proposal as for the permit to be valid. >> presumably, the parents would be home. >> it would put an extra burden on beat officers leading to distinguish between the different times. >> it is revocation of that permit. >> we thought it should be a lot more severe than that. >> we discussed it yesterday. we are limited by what the actual stakes are right now. director nolan: it doesn't seem like much of a penalty to me. >> i don't believe that we have been asked to look at the various options or penalties. the answer is related. we would be happy to look into that. director nolan: it doesn't seem like much of a penalty. it seems to me it should be a lot more severe. anyone want to comment? let's try to -- >> i would have no problem with penalties. peop

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director nolan: may become buying -- maybe combining director bridges' notion, changing the age limits, strengthening the penalties. maybe a six-month trial. transit frisirst is very important. but i'm aware of how family unfriendly the city can be. we think it is a very small number of people. most households that have that number of permits, it is not somebody going from 3 to 4. maybe two to three. i could support that. director beach: i have listened to all of my fellow director's comments. i realize there is room for compromise on this issue. director lee's approach that would look at this on a block by block basis, which addresses the concern of residents where there's very little parking. we have more than saturated the parking. hall would continue to support taking a look at the block by block basis. director nolan: is that how we would do that? as opposed to the staff recommendation? >> i have a couple of comments on that. are we going to take away health care provider permits if the neighborhood of votes that there is not enough parking to support that? that is my rhetorical q

the retirement age, making people work longer is a benefit cut when we raise the retirement age in 1983 from 65 to 67, it cut benefits for the average worker who retired at 65 by 13%. meaning that over the course of their retirement, they would lose $28,000. if we raised the retirement age to 70 now, that would be another 19% cut and another $35,000 loss retirement income for people covered by social security. people say, well, this is the fair thing to do. people are living longer. and everyone, you know, is living so much longer. we should raise everyone's retirement age. everyone is not, unfortunately, living longer. and people, especially low income people, have hardly gained, in fact, they have -- their increased longevity at age 65 since 1983 is the less than the increased retirement age that we've already enacted. men, lower-income men, have increased their longevity at age 65 by about a year. upper income men by five years over that period. so the effect of this, it's not -- it's doesn't have the same effect on everybody. raising the retirement raise obviously is a problem for p

but what exactly is that age? at what age do we become seniors? that's tonight's good question.u consider yourself a senior? >> no. i don't. >> oh really? >> no, i think of myself as an 18-year-old. i don't look it. >> what's your driver's license say. >> ha ha ha. >> it's one of those weird things that really has no defining parameters. when do we become senior citizens? >> senior isn't necessarily an age, it's more kind of a state of mind. >> aarp's christina klemm says in our society senior age requirements are all over the place. >> social security is 62 and 65. medicare is 65. retirement communities are 55 plus in order to, you know, get the nice pool and the quiet condo. aarp, we are 50 and older. >> and when you ask mature adults whether they consider themselves seniors you're likely to get answers like this. at what age do we become seniors? do we consider ourselves seniors? >> some age older than i am. >> 85. >> why 85? >> because my father started seeming older when he turned 85. >> klemm says things are different today. a lot of boomers simply aren't ready to go there

you're survey found the transition found between 13-14 years of age is particularly risky for teens. you say that in comparison to 13 yr-olds, 14 year-olds are 4 times] likely to be offered prescription drugs to abuse. 3 times more likely to be offered extaes and 3 times more likely to be offered marijuana and 3 times more likely to be offered koick. and that's why you call them dangerous years. is that correct? >> it's a dangerous divide. and we think it shows the move from middle school to high school. because if you look at the middle school about 20% of the middle schools have -- drugs are used, kept and sold and more than 50% of the high schools are schools where drugs are used, kept and sold. that's a big jump. when your kid goes high school, he is entering an entirely different world and if you're a parent, you have to be engaged with your kid during that transition. >> what would you council parents with regard to allowing their children to attend parties put on by teens of their age at other snoms. >> i council parents to call-up the other home and say, are you going to be t

the age limit, anyone with child up to 12 years. perhaps they would consider a lower age limit where the child can be left for 10 or 15 minutes alone. i am also concerned about the time of day and use of nanny permits and how transferrable transferable they may be. -- i hope they can find other ways to take care of the children. >> good afternoon, president nolan. the supervisors sent a letter in support for child care providers. as noted in the letter, child- care providers that come to their home, again, it is noted in the letter. they might need a car for a grocery shopping or other things. he believes it is important to have policies in place that support working families. i think a lot of working families out there have tried transit first. i am a mother. i work full time. so does my husband. it is extremely difficult to get around san francisco and do everything we need in terms of doctors' appointments. the parents have come to you and they have to find a way to fix it. we were using muni the other day. we just want to thank

all of that was going on in my mind at a very young age. what really set it off -- i had two teachers -- during february, we did it for the whole month because we figured we had been cheated out of our history of america. only two names were in the encyclopedia, and that was booker t. washington and george washington carver, but she lectured about the contribution of frederick douglass, w.e.b. dubois, and how jackie robinson had broken the baseball barrier. and we remembered the opera singer who was not allowed to sing in the hall and had to sing in lincoln center. all the discrimination and the local in justices. like, everything was separate and unequal. the school was inadequate. we could not go to the hospitals. they built a house adjacent to the main hospital. the white people were not supposed to be in the same room with an n-person. you know the n-word? i said to myself at the end of the day that i love my country and i'm glad that that day, i took a stand. i saw through the supreme court that the flaws that america had tried to corr

and on behalf of pesticide watch and the san francisco urban ag alliance, support urban agriculture and access to nontoxic foods. please support this ordinance. >> thank you. >> in brief, i am a neighbor of the property and adjoins the farm and i support it and all my neighbors support it, too. and it's wonderful and it o's the best thing to happen in the neighborhood in the five years i have been there. commissioner borden: thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. and the mission statement for the california act association is promote and protect agricultural and am impressed with the turnout you had here today. and to us no matter how large or small is still practicing the art of kl cultural. and in the past we're in support. however, i want to let you know that there are after the regulations already in place for direct marketing that would alie here. i am here to answer any questions and we are ready and willing and open to discussions commissioner borden: great. some commissioners might have questions for you if you can say. >> yes, i have time. >> i would like to thank the eco

of transformation, the age of optimism, and the age of anxiety. >> 1978 to 1991, that is what we createdthe globalized, capitalized world. it started in 1978, and it has moved away from communism, and it ended with india in 1991, and you have a global capitalistic system where the powers are participating. 1991 to 2008, all of the world's major powers, the u.s. has had its unipolar moment, the european union pretty of the moment -- optimistic, as well, and then you get this economic crisis of 2008, and the age of anxiety begins, because i think a lot of the assumptions, particularly that we in the west have, the spread of democracy, free markets, and they are all in question, and, therefore, i think economically we are worried about the challenges to our position as a power in the world. tavis: finally, is it fair to say then that american power in this age is going to wane? >> i think it is inevitable. frankly, the process was going on before 2008 with the rise of china and india, but i think what the focus has been is within about 10 years, the chinese economy is likely to be larger th

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age lab in cambridge, massachusetts, researchers study how age and infirmity affect a person's driving. >> you have neurological changes in the brain which is just processing time, sending signals from one nerve to another. >> reporter: slower? as you get older. >> yeah, some get slower more than others. >> reporter: every year after age 65, the odds of getting in a car crash while turning left increase by 8%. so, what can we do? in six states, doctors are now required to report a person they believe can no longer drive safely. and 44 states allow the doctor or a family member to anonymously report someone to motor vehicle officials. this past weekend, we returned to florida to visit robert hill and cathy. it turns out he'd continued to drive. finally, alarmed, she turned him in to the florida motor vehicles department. >> i called them in kind of a panic. >> reporter: and when hill's doctor refused to certify that he could drive, he was forced to give up his license. >> i tried, but i lost. >> i think he made the right choice and i think deep down he knows he made the right choice tha

kahn believes one day doctors may augment aging facial bones with implants or fillers. until then -- >> anything that would you do for the spine is going to benefit your face, as well. so calcium, vitamin d, those kinds of things, will help promote good general bone health. >> reporter: as for pam, she is sticking to the basics. that means... >> hydration is a big issue for a lot of people. >> reporter: not just drinking water but using sunscreen as well as a good moisturizer. now, dr. kahn has looked at bone density in the face and compared it to the bones in the spine and found facial bones do undergo the same changes as the spine as we age so that's why maintaining good bone health not only makes you feel good but you'll also look good, as well. >> i hope my crow's feet were listening to all that. [ laughter ] thank you. >>> never underestimate the power of the purse. not cash. an elderly woman in the briton stops a gang of thieves in their tracks. six men were trying to smash into a jewelry store. coming in from the right-hand side of the screen the older woman in a

the retirement age, making people work longer is a benefit cut when we raise the retirement age in 1983 from 65 to 67, it cut benefits for the average worker who retired at 65 by 13%. meaning that over the course of their retirement, they would lose $28,000. if we raised the retirement age to 70 now, that would be another 19% cut and another $35,000 loss retirement income for people covered by social security. people say, well, this is the fair thing to do. people are living longer. and everyone, you know, is living so much longer. we should raise everyone's retirement age. everyone is not, unfortunately, living longer. and people, especially low income people, have hardly gained, in fact, they have -- their increased longevity at age 65 since 1983 is the less than the increased retirement age that we've already enacted. men, lower-income men, have increased their longevity at age 65 by about a year. upper income men by five years over that period. so the effect of this, it's not -- it's doesn't have the same effect on everybody. raising the retirement raise obviously is a problem for p

this is the future of urban ag. >> hi. i am katie trendas and i go to university of san francisco. i am a -- as well as a bunch of the kids, we were sitting over there. we're all part of the garden project and we run a small garden on campus and we have gotten a lot of support on campus. it hasn't been going on for long -- >> it is the rain, sorry. >> i was wondering what that was. but basically i find it incredibly inspiring as a student that once i gadgraduate can potentially stay in the city i love and pursue a line of work that i am passionate about and take care of myself with the money that i could get or just be a part of something greater than this food corporation. i can just do something that is meaningful and helps the community. commissioner borden: thank you. >> we grow foods for people in the backyards and put in gray water systems and rainwater catching and sustainable landscaping and we are supportive of this and are part of the urban ag alliance and i wanted to speak to some of your concerns. i haven't had a chance to speak with many of you to hear your concerns, b

to have a comfortable old age. you are also seeing in terms of epidemics, an increase in alzheimer's and it is going to increase as the population increases. there are quite a few seniors who have mental health problems but they are also, the majority of seniors, who are hard-working, who had minimum wage jobs their whole lives, who paid social security. think about living on $889 a month in the city of

to have a comfortable old age. you are also seeing in terms of epidemics, an increase in alzheimer's and it is going to increase as the population increases. there are quite a few seniors who have mental health problems but they are also, the majority of seniors, who are hard-working, who had minimum wage jobs their whole lives, who paid social security. think about living on $889 a month in the city of san francisco needing to buy medication, one meal a day, hopefully, and health care. if we could provide health care early on we might prevent (inaudible) and people would be less likely to end up in the emergency room with a drastic outcome. we could actually provide prevention and health care to people who had no other way of getting health care, those without insurance, it might be more cost effecti

a soldier age young man. he didn't grow to adulthood with his father when he to talk about this and realize that what his father had done was really the right thing. in fact, theodore roosevelt, jr. billy somehow his father failed, and he was going to correct this failure. and so, at the first opportunity as his sister said, this was the origin of the younger theodore with a military. this is part of my story when i write about this era of the gilded age. but a larger part of the story is the emergence of modern american. modern in an economic sense. modern in a political sense. modern and a diplomatic sense, and modern in a military sense. i told you some of the discussions that i have with my students. i'll tell you something else. i tried to get my students to boil down the lessons of history and to manageable size. and so i pass seriously -- have to say explain to my students what i call brands laws of history. and when the subject turns to foreign policy, and military policy, i say brands first law of hi

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one to the north sea where significant number of populations over the age of sixty five to find out how pensioners here are coping with everyday problems a look at the heavy burden of all the aging russia's provinces in artie's close up series. eleven am here in moscow this is our welcome to the program now violence and intimidation have forced hundreds of thousands of iraqi christians to flee their home what experts view that as one of the biggest victims of the two thousand and three u.s. led invasion with the minority group a continued target of extremists sebastian meyer reports. every night miriam gets ready for bed with her family but it's not her bed it's not even her house miriam and her family are christian iraqis who have been forced to flee from baghdad to the semi autonomous kurdish region because they become targets of extremist groups in the country in two thousand and seven miriam was hit by a bomb that was planted outside her house black i went out with my arm just to buy some chocolates and come back and went out and didn't see anything i just heard the bomb and i fell

i have been looking at aging, and it is interesting to note that there will be an aging population in san francisco. i remember reading somewhere that it would be a higher percentage of aging population compared to some of the other major cities in california. i think there is certain preparation and mindful is that we need to have when it comes to looking at that issue or we will not be prepared for that. there is some language in here that addresses that. but i will look at that a little bit more closely. that is kind of the gist of what i was thinking about. i think other folks raised the issue on density. there might be a few more comments that i might add to it. commissioner moore: i only have one question. you mentioned that the basis of your study relies on the previous and not the current census. are you going to a least find a way of comparing trends one with the other? there are many very basic assumptions. there is a huge shakeup in all areas of the population part -- partially based on the economy. are you very quickly analyzing anything that is very different? >> as you k

i call this golden age for two reasons. one is that, well, for people of my generation -- i was born in 1953 -- for people of the baby boom, these are the folks who are running the country these days, these are the years of our childhood. and there is this recurrent tendency of humans to look back to a golden age. and if you quiz people, the golden age usual liquor responds roughly with their childhood. when life was simpler. well, of course life was simpler. you were 8 years old. [laughter] so there's part of it. there's this thinking, boy, if we could just get back to the way the country was in 1950 or 1960, then all would be well. so part of it is this individual nostalgia. but part of it, also, is the historically anomalous position of the united states during this time because in a fundamental way the united states was the only victor of world war ii. the united states was the only country that came out with a stronger economy than it went in. america's principle industrial competitors were either gravely weakened like

are age 90 or older. and astonishingly enough, three postal employees receiving workers comp are age 98 or older. mr. president, it is obvious that these workers are not going back to work. they clearly should be transitioned to the retirement system. i must ask the obvious question: is there any likelihood at all that these recipients are ever going to return to the workforce? no. then why aren't they transitioning to the retirement system when they reach retirement age? and think how unfair that is to the worker who does retire, say, at age 65 and gets a lesser amount. right now the way the system is structured, it does not encourage people to go back to work or to transfer to retirement at an age when most of their fellow workers would have retired. to prevent this continued abuse, my bill would convert retirement-eligible postal and federal employees on workers compensation to the retirement system when they reach age 65. now that's generous, mr. president, because we know the average retirement age i

there would be further discussion at the board with regard to the age limit and the penalty. >> i will second that. >> for clarity in drafting this amendment, i am not certain i understand what the scope of the survey would be. is the intent to survey the entire permit area? "said block by block, but we do not really mean that, do we? >> and the way we do it now is if you are on the 200 block and do not have a residential permit -- it is just the residence. >> i thought you were talking about the whole district. >> it is not the whole district. but you have to be attached to a residential parking zone. if you are one block off, you would be part of that zone. that is how it works to add rpp to a block. i think you are proposing would have to get approval within that rpp to get a nanny permit on your block. >> i think a understand to be -- i think i understand that to be a single-block survey, as opposed to a survey during the creation of a permit. >> i would procedurally -- you know where i stand. i think we should approve the thing. but i understand i do not have the votes. i would su

here are coping with everyday problems look at the heavy burden of old age in russia as provinces that's coming up in our tease close up series. and our top business story rushes out to monopoly watchdog opens a formal investigation into the country's top three oil producers for price fixing we'll hear more about that from our guest analyst and twenty minute. live from our studios in central moscow this is our team with me nice and now it's two pm here in the russian capital and first this hour violence and intimidation has forced hundreds of thousands of iraqi christians to flee their homeland experts view them as one of the biggest victims of the two thousand and three u.s. led invasion with a minority group continue target of extremists sebastian my reports now from iraq but every night miriam gets ready for bed with her family but it's not her bed it's not even her house miriam and her family are christian iraqis who have been for. to flee from baghdad to the semi autonomous kurdish region because they become targets of extremist groups in the country in two thousand and seven miriam

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