ag gag. others call them farm privacy bills. the eight states in orange was passed the ag gag build, including north carolina. the debate over ag gag bills boils down to a battle over freedom of speech versus the privacy rights of farmers. k johnson smith thinks they are a good thing, and she is the president and c.e.o. of the animal agriculture alliance an industry group advocating for animal farmers. the way i see it activists are reporting real abuses in an industry we know is not all that transparent. instead of charges against farmers, the bill is making it possible for charges against whistle blowers. what is wrong with my analysis of that? >> a lot of things i'm sorry to say. let me first say that our organization does not lobby, so we are not involved in supporting legislative initiatives such as the farm protection bills. however, i understand the need for them and the reasons legislators across the country have been introducing these bills are because animal rights activists are fraudulent i representing themselves whe