nato, including in the unitited state, where there is a perception the 80 i is working a separate agenarom what he ally -- what the alliances -- what the alliance is even if it could be compitive or not necessarily, with the other two. what is your strategic v view on what thehe relationship of all these ththree has to be? jorge: ultimately i have been away from brussels for years, where a worked with natato last time. things have moved on a lot. looking at a distrust has finished. europe has to get its act together, with -- it's act together, whatever it does. that has meant the issue of nato , we are doingting so far in the political limitations that exist. have a mandate from defense toisters in may of this year enenhance and synchronize our defense spending in europe and in nato to ensure we do not duplicate. specifically on one of the challenges of the future. hand-in-hand is close contact with all sectors choosingnato, and what is done better in one place or another is the best way forward. the u.s., which has shown a key interest in the last years, which has been formally been co