and there were other experts in the agency or outside of the agency advising the agency who were construing the term indirect effects much, much more broadly. so you have people in and around the agency who had a very broad sense of the agency's mission. and then you had lawyers within the agency who were who were focusing much more on the statutes, is that i thought that was an interesting example. is that is it a common occurrence in agency, in your experience? oh, go ahead. well, particularly on an issues related to science, you can have you know, there are legal and regulatory terms. and then can have issues that people think are and you know, we live in a society of law. and so at the end of the day to have any certainty of our decision making to have predictability in the law that what the how the law to find something or how the regulation defined something is really important. and somebody can have a view on what a word might mean. maybe the regulation should be a broader definition or a different definition. well, that's legitimate, but the issue that needs to be taken up is you sh

it is not final agency action. and even when it is reviewed, the government then asks for deference to the agencies by accords. while the language of sopra is im -- implicit that the requirement of de novo applies to agency guidance, my amendment would make it explicit. in closing, my amendment would clarify that agency guidance, which agencies routinely abused, is subject to de novo judicial review under this bill. thank you and i yield back -- i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from wyoming reserves. for what purpose does the gentleman from new york seek recognition? mr. nadler: madam speaker, i claim the time in opposition. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. nadler: thank you, madam speaker. madam speaker, as agency heads have stated time and time again, guidance documents, general statements of policy, and other agency guidance do not have the force and effect of law. the agencies do not taken forcement actions based on supervisory guidance. this amendment would unnecessa

has written a rule and said do you want the agency to go forward, yes or no. the default would be no unless congress acts. so there we are talking about a larger number of regulations potentially that would be affected but now we're talking into the -- it's a good question how many but certainly less than probably 100 per year. with that question with that, as a practical -- practical matter, how much bandwidth does congress have to act on resolutions like that or approvals of regulations like that? compared to occasionally taking up a disapproval. so it flips the default and asks congress to take a much more active hand in the regulatory process and -- process that they have been taking today. sometimes when people talk about the reins act, they feel he could gum up the works on non-controversial or rules were legislators do not have an issue. the way it is with the congressional review act, it leaves the ball in congress is court to act if they want to disapprove rather than asking them to affirmatively approve the regulation the agencies are issuing. host:

when agencies do rules. they're expected to make pretty persuasive explanations for why they're doing that role. that includes looking at things like the benefits of the cost. and other alternatives they consider for example. when congress steps into disapproval rule. they're not required to do any of that. they can exercise their judgment. in fact, when they issue the resolution of disapproval. it has a very strict format to it. there's not a lot of opportunity for members of congress to say much in the bill. in the resolution itself about why they're doing it. of course, they have the opportunity to make four statements and other types of speeches. everything from tweets to fall on a statement so you might get a little glimpses of the rationales. it's quite rare for that to include anything like a complete cost-benefit analysis. the likes of which an agency would be expected to do when it issues the rule in the first place. >> on a cost-benefit analysis. this comes up occasionally for environmental regulat

agencies work really hard on their rules. it might take them, certainly it takes them months, it may take them years, and it represents hundreds of hours of their effort to try to do the best regulatory proposal that they can. and so at the end of all of that, to have congress swoop in and disapprove, it is really something that the agencies want to avoid. and so oira review touches a lot of different topics, certainly not just avoided a congressional review act disapproval, but that review is the point of it is to make sure that the rules are ready, and -- different actions that you are considering, and they do their best to explain to the public and to potential future judges down the line. all of the things that they considered and the different trade-offs associated with the hard policy choices that we ask agencies to make. >> just a few minutes before the house comes in for the day of course, we will go there for gavel to gavel coverage when they do, but we're talking though about the congressional review act, but -- law

and the agencies purchased. this captures the strategy drive minimum and what they rely on. for example, the authority in the industrial base and it was in place of this sector. the sectors identified that were largely unused authorities that could use and require minimum resilience. the middle areas require some level of rulemaking essentially looking at existing safety and applying federal security in the amount is applied to a water system and the safety applies to those digitals and the final column where theres is no abily to impose minimum requirements and voluntary practices and you will see clearly the sectors like emergency sectors that are really a concern so i want to highlight the cross picture across all infrastructure in the united states and the first column where major progress has been made by the department of security and across the leadership in making movements as well as the water sector and justice. in the deeper dive on how this played out putting in places minimum resilience requirements

i'm not sure what additional work the agencies are having to do except for backlog worked at the agencies were not able to get to because a lot of federal workers are at home. going to the office and go into the practices that they are hired to do. look, i get. it would covid-19. you're not quite sure what you're dealing. with that made sense in year one. but year two in year three that makes little sense to continue to leave the offices closed or on partial schedules. from what we understand from the previous testimony, from the director of personnel. -- the federal workforce which is not return to the office today. cutting money from the federal agencies because we continue to overspend drastically is a good read and how the physical thing that we should be doing in our country. if that means there are services that are purposes need and are going to need them maybe washington should rethink its policy overall that can address the needs of the american people while not wasting the money of the american people to the witness panel thank you for being here i will propose a couple of quest

today's hearing is on customer service agencies selected as federal agencies. the covid pandemic invited a stress test for agencies in many ways an earlier this year we heard how fraud driven presentation measures failed in covid relief programs. that was a subcommittee hearing we did was on a bipartisan basis where we universally heard about the frailties of not only some of the government's actions also the impact that prevented measures from being fully understood as hundreds of billions of dollars being lost. but another stress test was they delivered services to the american people and as a person who worked in the private sector for a number of years that have a public opening to them, i will tell you i do recognize difficult it is to not only match manpower with incoming needs of customers but also to do so in a difficult time. with that said, we are here today to make sure we have a clear understanding about not just what is behind us but what lies in front of us and the daunting challenge each of the members of congress as we attempt to also do busines

and the agencies who participated. it captures the biden administration efforts to drive for those critical services we rely on as american citizens. i will say that the beginning of the administration, there were minimum arm and since sectors like the nuclear sector. rob will talk a bit more about what was in place for the chemical sector. the first column you see ahead of you is the set of sectors that were largely unused authorities that could be used to require minimum resilience practices. the middle area are areas where required some level of rulemaking. looking at existing regulations for safety and applying them to cybersecurity. if we need safety for the amount of chlorine applied to a weather system, given that these are digital systems. the final column shows you the sectors where there is no ability to impose minimum requirements that we rely on. you will see clearly some of the sectors there. i wanted to show you this chart to highlight that cross picture across all of critical infrastructure. we will deep

-- even not a co-sector risk management agency. we do everything enclose consort with sisa, fbi, dod, department of energy so none of us are surprised. we can all contribute. once we decide to issue a relation for comment, the industry knows we have pre-coordinated amongst ourselves. there may be issues that come up and we are happy together to look at the issues that may cross between safety and security. the other thing to add to this is internationally it is very important as well. if you look at iko, the faa and tsa are reps. coordinating domestically reflects the work we do to reflect internationally. robert: in the context of an incident, i think there is a brass tacks need for the federal government to have its agencies talking amongst themselves on the back end so that we are not burdening a victim company with multiple knocks on the door. that is our duty and i think we have gotten better as a federal government in that regard. what victim companies often do not see now is in the background sisa and the fbi and the sector

the core mission of your agency has previously been done by other agencies and if it was an agency it should be expanded. i'll quote hamlet, to be or not to be, yours should die a painful death. you've gone outside your core mission and abused the authority that congress should take back from you and i would be in agreement with mister donalds that your agency, not you serve but your agency is unconstitutional. >> the gentleman's time is expired. the chair recognizes miss garcia. >> i have a unanimous consent request and would like to submit to documents from the consumer bankers association which clearly request the cfpb to not only issue rules for issue guidance to help industry comply with the law. this counteracts what many colleagues are claiming that the cfpb should not be issuing guidance. the document reads the case for regulation through rulemaking, without objection. >> i would like to thank director chopra for his testimony today. all members will have five days to submit witness to the chair which will be forwarded to the witness for his response . i asked you to please re

when is it expected for agencies like bart and muni? >> if nothing happens, they will go over this fiscal cliff depending on the agency in the next 12 to 24 months. different agencies are in different situations so that is why it is important that the legislature, the senate, and the assembly have agreed to this three-year sustainable plan of $1.1 billion to support transit operations. it does not solve the problem completely. we have more work to do. this is a positive start. karina: let's talk about the details of the proposed budget in terms of how it will help save public transit. can you give us some more of the details? >> there are two aspects. when the governor put out his proposal, it did not have any funding for the operational fiscal cliff so i am not criticizing. the governor had a big balancing act to do and we have a lot of priorities but there was nothing for it and there was proposal to s it was very problematic. what disagreement agreement between the senate and the assembly does is it restores the entire $2 billion in

but the foster care agency, the very agency that exists for the sole reason of serving and protecting his as best interests, sought those benefits out, applied the benefits, never told john, never told that they're applying. never told him that they're to become the representative in control of those funds and then took literally every penny. although his benefits from him. right. and if you think like the stats of of of former foster youth are just lined up against them, you know, like again, you know, for those who are able do somewhat well, you know, after leaving the system i'm i'm amazed most right you know and so he had this potential to have this monetary resource and it wasn't just the money. right. they took this connection from him. right. you know, he had this money that was left to him from his deceased parent that he could have used. but the money in that connection to his parent to then help himself off. right. and i just don't know how you put a number on that. so and i uncover a contract right that the state maryland the foster courageous they actually had a contract w

they span across agencies and coalesce into the inner agency that has regularly briefed, been briefed to congress including the administration's interagency effort entitled the u.s. plan to counter illicit diversion of certain advanced conventional weapons and eastern europe. members of this committee received multiple briefings on this very effort and have available to them scores of documents detailing the exact types of assistance provided to ukraine and the timing of that assistance. in addition to the administration's own efforts to ensure utmost monitoring and accountability of our assistance to ukraine, three inspectors generals overseeing the state department, defense department, and usaid developed an integrated response and accountability investigation approach called the joint strategic oversight plan for ukraine. in january of this year our witnesses traveled together and we thank you for that, to ukraine, underscoring the seriousness with which the administration is taking your work as inspectors generals. your trip is just one facet of a sustained oversight over the huma

, national security agency cia, fbi the national counterterrorism agency have at sun -- axis 2702 data. that inr officers only receive access to disseminate a serialized reporting that has become sevens or two data. it means the raw data has been reviewed for valid intelligence information by authorized personnel at the collection agency sanitized of u.s. persons information and formally published in a report made available to the broader intelligence community and cleared for that information.. one report published oftentimes by the nsa inr analyst can use it to inform their institutions and policymakers. like other agencies inr has robust internal compliance and oversightt mechanism for intelligence programs like 702. first we have the department state guidelines approved by the attorney general which among other things govern how inr retains and uses information concerning u.s. persons. second we have established internal processes and procedures for inr analysted to submit the identity of the u.s. person in a report derived by sevensep or two data. if they named u.s. person employe

a good example of inter agency cooperation is our aviation program. we contract our helicopter and manage our program with one permanent and for seasonal employees. the medicine boat out thunder bay's national grasslands supports our helitac program, by having someone assisted. two details are also provided by the local national forest to help support the program committee is aware of the immediate issue with recruitment and federal firefighters. this is also a challenge for our state and county fire districts, as veteran firefighters retire they are not being replaced at the same right. the need to effectively recruit within our county volunteer fire district is a big concern that wyoming is looking to address. we need to work together to find solutions to meet the needs of our wildlife our community. there it will not be a one size fits all solution as the need will have to be addressed at all levels. i would like to transition the conversation to proactively managing for the health of women's forest. a recent study from the nature conservancy found

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the big radio and television news agency in the south of the occupied territories. shahab palestinian news agency published images of an explosion in the occupied territories. this image shows a fish mushroom cloud, which indicates the severity there is an explosion, quds news network announced that the explosion took place near the area of ​​aria tejarat township. this report is where the residents of kirya region are about the occurrence of a massive explosion and what followed it . the zionist authorities have not commented on the origin of the explosion. the americans announced that it is most likely that the explosion occurred at the training base of the army forces and the details are under investigation. the loss of tens of thousands of ammunition from the weapons warehouse in the occupied territories has caused the security concerns of the zionists. one of the members of the zionist parliament described the stolen army bases as a major incident and called for a new investigation . the zionists later announced that they had arrested two people in this regard.

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so through that agency through the freedmen's bureau agency, black women get to it. they know what is going on. i told you all their struggle with labor and so if one historian says they besieged the office. they in the office every day with the bureau complaining about several things come talking about several things. let me -- this is important. a long time ago the newspaper used to, there's important newspaper harpers weekly. we all read newspapers today. y'all don't care what newspapers used to be a filiform, by the way to get information, not twitter and not instagram. but harpers weekly with one of these newspapers they came out weekly and they would include images are some of these images y'all may have seen that this is one of the biggest want to describe reconstruction. on one side there are white southerners. others said they are african-american males. this is the freedoms view agency hold of everybody. let's just talk about. let's mediate the situation together, okay? now one big fan want to mention is that freedmen's bureau agency back then were normally

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there is one agency, freeman bureauan agency for everybody.pension bureau is just for widows. just for widows of soldiers. this is the fourth united states color infullty. they saw action in the battle there are people that support the civil wand artroops. specifically black women. the pension bureau was designed with the american revolution. they severed in the continental army and passed away. white women in the continental army give us monthly amount that will,, i wouldn't say you will e rich but b sustain you. some cases 8 to $12. it increased if you had children. this system, the widows pension system goes back to the american revolution. after the civil war, black women for the first time have access, again, tohi this federal system. now, this is supposed to be good. we have access. you can't -- with the fact. you are not supposed to argue with thehe facts. give me the eight dollars per month. there is nothing to talk about. the issues, of course, are -- the pension bureau said well, since you didn't have legal documents are you really m

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well, what do the news agency pay attention to, television , radio?one grabs just for quotes what the leaders say, what the president said. what other leaders of states and governments who gather here say. how many contracts were concluded between whom , how many billions, is that just the point? of course not. well, a lot, of course remains. e behind the scenes, and besides the negotiations here yes, a huge number, of course, of the stands of the event, a huge number of some activities, a lot is simply impossible even here to physically get around. yesterday i calculated that a has 11,000 steps. although i didn’t look at all the stands, i didn’t go everywhere i wanted to, okay? not yet today thought, but our colleague daria kozlova thought that the most interesting thing here on the forum would be dispensed with. let's see there is already. the united arab emirates is a guest country of the 26th st. petersburg international economic forum, well, what does this mean in practice, in addition to multimillion-dollar contracts, well , firstly, one of the

aren't you working with other agencies? i'm thinking out loud what nist, doe.ing is not the case always silos are all dressed the version, and miss wexler? >> legal and across all public and private sector. on a larger scale, absolutely . >> that you see? the board xy and z. >> congressman the social security administration are very collaborative with our federal partners with the technology community not only provisions of technology to the government to the nation. we coordinating with multiple executive branch agencies to both learn more about the emerging technologies identify positive use cases to help the governments mission. >> so we are congress. i've read a few questions and i want to ask you what can we do? what do you see congress can do? if you could say, if you guys could do this, what would that be? >> congressman, i would say technology advances with the threats that you have identified change to access the same funding is important metric to continue to enhance games. >> the important role you play in making sure ecsb was created to begin with i