judy: you wrote a four years agy whe ereu is unlikely to be contained by norms and customs or even lawsstitution. how did that bear itself? o peter: think it bore itself t almost every single day. e impeachment. he violated norms in every single direction, civic, political. there was a savagery to our politics because of him. he was a battering ram against reality and our institutions. he has left our nation riven, broken into warring political tribes. wi wre that, it was one of the easier things to see. he was a person who was so easy-to-read. this was a person with sociopathic tendencies. of people, particularly in the repuican party, which i have been a part of my entire life, i served in three republican administrations, the degree to which republicans were blinded to him and his malignancy, willfully or simply blind, it will leave a stain on the party. certainly there is a stain on the trump legacy. judy: you are very much a conservative. you were telling us today you agree with many ofis h in tpotsene economic policy, sf his foreign-policy. you are giving him credit for some of th