race to get to agi is pell-mell. that's the goal. >> the holy grail. >> john: final question. are you reading anything to refresh your thinking about the journey that mankind has been on and how his best to face this new challenge? >> yeah, thomas hobbes. i am a big fan of thomas hobbes. hobbes said look, usually there is a state of nature. if you don't have law, it's you and me and everyone else here against everyone else. what's going to be the best for humanity moving forward is cooperation, not cheaters. but cooperation. >> john: christopher, the book is "building a god." thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> john: there's more to come on "cbs evening news plus" including our in-depth report okay, little wendy's hack. if you want a super fresh, high-quality burger every time, tell them you want... a “hamburger.” that's a hack, right? no? a hack-free burger, made fresh for you? gotta be wendy's. dave's been very excited about saving big m with the comcast business 5-year price lock guarantee. five years? -five yea

they don't want to chase agi. you have to wonder, well what is the business reasons behind doing that. so you know, we are all counting on them being the leader in in whatever was to come with that openai relationship, you know, how do they cross this chasm without that? so there are just some questions that are coming up around the microsoft model. >> i mean, microsoft is in the news again today because they're asking president trump to overhaul curbs on ai chip exports. steve kovach, our tech reporter, joins us now with more. steve. >> yeah, let's answer the question here, scott, because the answer is the cloud. and part of the part of that play here is microsoft asking trump to open up chip and ai model exports to allied countries. this includes countries like israel, greece, poland, saudi arabia and several more who we consider allies and why microsoft is doing this. it's because the data center business is actually a strong one here for ai, and it's they're building these data centers around the world. and th

but we don't get the agi, asi. they used for deepseek, don't we in. >> exactly. we need more powerful chips. we want trillion plus parameter models to get us to agi. that is what blackwell, nvidia's next generation of gpus, is targeting. however, in order to get there, you're moving fast and breaking things. that's a saying in tech to mean you should pushing back past -- you are pushing past all of the upper limits. and nvidia's doing that with this next generation. what we want to know is all that complex ifty, will it be on time the in which would be q1 ramping in volume, or are they still working out the components and those come for exampleties and it'll be more of a -- complexities and it'll be more of a q2 or q3? make no mistake, nvidia is the story of the year, it's coming down to can which quarter it will happen. charles: are these cheaper chips, you know, not just deepseek, but grok 3? >> that's a debate i absolutely believe it is those big systems that will be facilitateing what big tech is spending for.

agi has the potential to be smarter than humans.y say that system could be more intelligent and economically productive than all of humanity. >> they have no proof that that system that's smarter than human system will stay safe forever. and without that, that proof, they just should never build it. >> or russia. >> openai hasn't commented on the protest or the group's accusations and demands. federal workers received an email today from billionaire elon musk telling them to justify their jobs. the email asks federal workers to explain what they got done at their job last week. musk posted on x at the request, is consistent with president trump's instructions, and failure to respond will be taken as a resignation. the email was sent hours after trump suggested musk and his department of government efficiency be more aggressive. the deadline for workers to respond is monday at 11:59 p.m. a federal judge has granted a preliminary injunction barring unauthorized government employees like elon musk to access the treasury central payment

i also a have been reading about a part of this debate going back to asi, right, over -- agi, right?rintelligence where there's a big divide there. a lot of folks are afraid we don't want to go there where anti's smarter than humans and may be uncontrollable there -- a.i.'s -- >> that that's what people worry about a, when you let the genie out of the bottle. when we get to agi, people think we might be there in five years, some people think ten, but ultimately it's going to happen. the question is, are there controls that allow the human to be in the loop. this is really about a ethics in a.i. some of the most basic ethics you want to agree on is whether algorithms are transparent. heir explainable. if you're discriminating against people who are left-handed with purple hair, we want to know why, and you have to be able to reverse that. more importantly, you have to keep training these models because they're going cochange, they're going to to it shift, and you've got to have a human in the loop. you start it with a human, end it with a human -- charles: ray, i've got less than a mi

well, think of it as an agi at all costs strategy.ai's priority is to push the frontier relentlessly. the idea that reaching it first is worth any investment, rather than relying on incremental improvements that deep sea proved can be reached through a process called distillation. so two things are true here ai model building and deployment is more cost effective than ever, and those costs are going down. but companies like openai and google, by the way, they still want to be the ones to drive revolutionary breakthroughs needed to reach agi. so this is really a long term vision, which masa certainly is no stranger to. he famously has that 300 year vision. meanwhile, though, the new paradigm is eroding the moat that openai has held for the last two years, really raising the stakes for them to make the next breakthrough. never mind. deep sea models are becoming commoditized at a rapid pace. openai's latest deep research feature that's being reproduced by hugging face as an open version. ai researchers at stanford and the university of w

with a focus on the platform but also cloud leading into ai, saying the key priority for alibaba is agi, artificial general intelligence that stock is booming in the session and lifting the broader sentiment across the regional index. , now up .6%, set for six straight weekly gains. currently that stock and index up 4.8% and had crossed higher by 5%. the rally continues. european markets fell around .2% yesterday. there has been profit-taking across the u.s. space. we look for fresh catalysts. pmi data out of the euro zone will be coming through. european stoxx 50 futures pointing lower. ftse 100 futures pointing lower by six points. s&p futures after modest losses yesterday following around .4%, pointing lower by another .1%. nasdaq futures dropping run half percent yesterday. palantir was lower. walmart with a miss on earnings. jp morgan also struggling. let's look cross asset. we have been hearing from other fed officials and continuing the message around a cautious of roach to next -- cautious approach to the next cut. the benchmark 10 year currently yielding 4.48%. euro-dollar at 1

>> agi going to -- >> cure cancer without somebody telling you how. >> ultimately i am a, you look ate seat gifti ultimately goal when we get there may regret it but that is ultimate goal deepseek i think best i read so far real cost 1.6 billion 50,000 gpu's, clufrz around the entire country of china found best people around the country, china contributed, so, 6 million dollar mark way off, that is why nvidia stock has come back ironically made to lesser not black hole but lesser chips there has been a rush on those prices, on those gone up making nvidia richer. cheryl: our economists between us here mr. john lonski. john: nice seek you. cheryl: how feeling about jobs' report. john: i am feeling a little bit upbeat we've got a lot of positive soundings on jobs, from -- ism, pmi adp i wouldn't be surprised if the increase in payroll beats that 170,000 consensus estimate i don't think jobs' report is weak enough to increase the likelihood of a fed rate hike, prior to the month of june. cheryl: are a okay charles. >> ultimate coin flip the game, so ridiculous considering the -- the exten

this is pervasive now in discussions about are we on the verge of agi, what people often mean human level intelligence and i think implicitly, people envision human-like intelligence and i think what we're seeing is ai that we're building does not think like humans, it's different. it thinks in very strange and alien ways and that's a new development, the technology powerful, but it's one that we need to be mindful of, even if the outputs sort of look like humans because that's what it's designed to do what's going on under the hood is not and we need to be conscious of that when we're using the technology. >> we're running short on time, but a lot of questions about adversaries use of ai so i'm going to pull just one, it's the most distinct one, i'm going to have to ask you to be brief in your response if you can. this comes from the usa today, the question was china looming adoption of at least a partial launch on warning posture raise the mutual stakes of ai integration into nc3? >> whoever wants to take that one. [laughter] >> all right. give it to me again. >> does china's looming ad

>> i would like to address the agi limitations and specialty crops. we are unique. we have extremely high value crops. a lot of us cannot meet that criteria. the 75% of income derived from agriculture fits more into the specialty crop industry. we are able to take advantage of these programs. r.mbr. craig: you mentioned food deserts, the need for a strong supplemental nutrition program in the congress. would you say more about how the snap program impacts your community and farm income? mr. weinzierl: i can respond on the need of food deserts. i'm not as familiar with the snap program. my wife and the four h club had the food pantry this past weekend and they serve 25 families which would equate with 70 individuals in a small town of 700. she has seen numbers go up. r.mbr. craig: thank you. i got gaveled on my first set. you'll back. [laughter] chair thompson: everyone will get gaveled. r.mbr. craig: you gaveled yourself. chair thompson: mr. lucas. rep. lucas: thank you. we will spend a lot of time talking about the negative effects of rising input costs on farmers.

i mean, i hear you're getting close to agi every day, obviously even closer. i used to worry a lot about this a year or so ago. what's going to happen to the world? you know, what assurances can you give us that you are developing this safely, given the race that is taking place between you and so many competitors? >> i mean, safety has always been at the core of what we do, and sometimes we're louder on it. but everybody should know that it's always right there at the core before we release any model, any new feature, there's always a full safety review that is done, and we try to do it broadly with our ecosystem as well. so we just come back all the time to what is the what, what can we give out to consumers that is helping them in their daily lives? when we work with customers like a t-mobile or a morgan stanley or moderna, what are the things that we can do to speed their businesses along? and of course, they're always going to expect us to hold that high bar of safety. but i think it's a table stakes rather than something that that we need to call out exp

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. >> agi, all of the. >> above is going to continue. >> to drive. >> capex budgets.ter. and the uncertainty, of course, is around tariffs. >> but i'm not. >> so i don't really. >> understand why people are. >> so. >> surprised that tariffs. >> have entered the conversation. when the president told us it was his favorite word in the dictionary. so i think we'll get through this. that's creating the chaos. that's usually an opportunity for long term investors like myself. >> well, let's be clear. if you think the tariffs are creating chaos, that creates an opportunity. where's the opportunity if you can't give specific names, are there certain sectors where you see an opportunity. >> oh yeah. >> no i. >> can i. >> can. >> talk names. i mean certainly we've added two names like nvidia and palantir. on the recent sell off, we've added to names like. power which is quanta services. i'm sorry, i think there's opportunity in some of the consumer discretionary names i had. i published a list of five for 25 on december 31st, and that includes amazon, goldman sachs, of course,

their mission is to build the next generation of large language models and reach agi or asi before anyonee. this is a hugely capital intensive strategy, and it's really at odds with another shift in the space called distillation. that deep sea really broke onto the scene. this is the idea that a small team with virtually no resources can make an advance model by essentially extracting knowledge from the larger one. this is what companies and startups in china and academics are now doing. now, openai is former most important partner microsoft ceo satya nadella. he had some really interesting comments on the evolution of ai building this week on a podcast, when asked if he would spend hundreds of billions of dollars on compute to compete on the frontier like project stargate is doing. he said he was taking a more balanced approach. now. he said that there will be overbuild, and he's happy to lease capacity to serve the next big model. and that's really key serving versus building the glory of building the most advanced ai, versus the practicality of making ai accessible, efficient and cost

that's further on than agi.s human intelligence in all aspects, including creativity and problem solving. the four pillars that softbank points to chips, data centers, robots, and of course, energy. also on softbank's earnings call. and in its slides, which are always distinct. kelly. softbank touts masa's new, powerful relationships a photo of masa san with president trump, altman and larry ellison at the white house just a few weeks ago. there's masa and altman on stage in tokyo last week. there was a few more throughout as well. and so what we're really seeing is this return of late 20 tens masayoshi son, when that billion, $100 billion vision fund and remember his spray and pray strategy of investing single handedly changed the venture capital startup and startup ecosystem, it had so many implications. kelly. we're only going to start to see the ramifications of this round's ambitions. remember, masayoshi son has a 300 year vision. he's putting it to work right. >> now, 300 year. i do too, actually. deirdre,

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activity and unlocking agi or artificial general intelligence before we do? mr. lutnick: yes. >> what do you think we need to do here to prevent us from falling in that trap? mr. lutnick: we were successful on the internet and created the greatest technology companies the world because we had an american touch of it. we did the internet, the american way and that's why the tech companies of the world are ours. we need to do the same thing with a.i. we need to make sure that we set standards that the world meets so that they're american standards that the world meets that's the way we'll keep our lead. do it the american way which we know is the winning way. our ally knows it's the winning way and we need set those standards. >> thank you. i want to follow-up on something that we talked about in our office on a completely different topic and yes, it does involve fish. they withdrew their noah whale strike rule. will you continue working to develop policies and procedures that protect marine might have without limiting access to north carolina and our nation's coas

. >> i mean, who knows what the next year will hold when we'll get to agi, what that really is going to mean for work. for social cohesion, for so many. >> different things, jim, you know, for the we see the working. >> and then you're talking about it taking over the government in terms. >> of you basically running it. you can do models. i mean, look at paypal today, they're going to announce an infusion of ai that i think is going to blow you away. alex. chris your pal. yes. my pal alex. >> chris. >> yes. >> he's got great stuff. >> another another tufts grad. >> great. >> tufts graduate. >> yeah. >> but are. >> you saying there is there a limit. >> to what. >> you will privatize post office, social security? how many of the how many of these companies, how much money can they make? >> they can make a lot. >> of money. yeah. >> they can make a lot. >> and do you think that leads you to what, an oligarch, an oligarchy. >> we already got. >> we already got that. >> we got to talk. >> it's too late. >> what's going to happen when the when there's a what are we going to do when. >> the

it was too agis too hard for us to get there easily for dinner. because of the bike lanes.ing a one person perspective when it is like to get on to valence why to be a customer there we stopped going. good luck, thank you. thank you. good afternoon san francisco supervisors a lot of new face. i'd like to say happy lunar new year. i'm here not to talk about the cars or bike lanes. . i'm here to talk about fentanyl. this is only specific to people. >> public comment. only for people who support appeal. okay. i believe that bike lanes obstructed by people using fentanyl is a detriment. no its not you need to peek to this appeal. when i will be able to speak we will have public comment at the end of the meeting. 4. . 20 i will sit down. >> thank you. mr. decosta. supervisors. this is san francisco. and -- we look at it from the point of you are the planning department. and the municipal transportation agency which is one of the wirfs agencies in san francisfrancisct a cannot dot right out reach to ask the business what is is it they want? the bicyclists with political action co

in congress, on regulating our own ai activities at the expense of china taking the lead unlocking agi or artificial general intelligence before we do? mr. lutnick: yes. sen. budd: what we need to do to prevent us falling into their trap? mr. lutnick: we were successful on the internet creating the greatest technology companies in the world because we had an american touch. we did the american -- we did the internet the american way and that is why tech companies around the world are ours. we need to do ai the same way. we need to set standards the world of meats that our american standards. i think that is the way we will keep the lead. to do it the american way, which we know is a winning way. our allies know it is the winning way. we need to set the standards. sen. budd: i want to follow up on a different topic that we talked about in office and yes, it does involve since. the previous administration withdrew the noaa well strike reduction role with disastrous results for those in the carolina and coastal communities. would you develop policies and procedures that protect marine lif