that is what i got from agnes gereb.ve me the impression they wanted to save the baby from me. >> hungary is deeply divided over agnes gereb. many share my view that this is one woman's battle for a philosophy and practice of birth care. others regard her as a dangerous and reckless witch. the government has already taken one important step. last year, they put home berth on the legal footing for the first time. now the president is considering whether to exult its leading practitioner of the crimes for which she was convicted and grant agnes gereb clemency. last year, your government regulated home birth for the first time in hungary. would it not be strange to first allow something and then send them to prison, the best known practitioner? >> we have to make a strict division here between what the court of law decided and with the government did. as a government, we recognize that it was illegal, so we regulated it. that obviously has no retrospective purse -- aspect on the criminal proceedings, it is true that if agne