women in finance, women in afghanistanry business, women -- agri business, and women in different sexes of the economy. that's where i believe we have not done enough. we have not managed to get so much success. >> women are of tremendous economic actors in local marketplaces. that women who are better educated become more effective economic actors, that women who are more educated keep their families healthy, yet you have to push and institution build against entrenched forces that don't easily say you are right, let's do this. why is that? >> in general, government are easy to make political statements, and to make public commitments. but to transform this into policy, into strategies, and plans, which are implement able, mash usualable -- measurable, it has been a challenge. we need to continue to work with the government, because they are the first responsible for using the public resources for public good. civil society can support and will always support, but it government. >> let's say the government says madam michelle, you are absolutely right. so we go and say women shouldn't