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david agus who is going to join us from his home in los angeles. dr. agus, good morning. want to start with something that came out of the white house coronavirus briefing yesterday. the president himself did not think we need widespread testing. that seems to contradict the advice of many of his medical experts. from your perspective, from where you're sitting, what do we need to have in place from a testing perspective before we lift the social distancing guidelines at the end of the month? >> we're going to need three things. one is we're going to need the ability to do millions of tests a week. and that word was right. millions of tests. when we open up, there are still going to be cases. we also need to do what we call immune surveillance. that's a blood test to see whether you actually have the virus or not. so not whether you have it. that's the dna test or rna test. but actually whether you have it. and then the third is we need to do social tracing. that is, we need the ability if you do test positive to go back and say, who did you interact with over the past fe

david agus joins us with more. good morning.t there are essentially ghost cases out there. people walking with the illness. how do you combat that if you want to try to slow the spread? >> well, 20% of people or maybe more never have symptoms with this virus. and obviously they can be contagious. but almost everybody right before they have symptoms, their virus levels are high. they can be contagious too. you have an entire population of people that can spread it. when a young person says i feel fine and they go on the beach in florida, that could spread to people who can then spread it across the country when they return to their home after spring break. it worries me. >> so what do you do about it? >> what we do is we stay at home. what we do is we have uniform rules across the country, how we don't go out because even if we feel fine, we can spread it. the other thing we can talk about is masks. when you put a mask on it's not to protect you from somebody else, it's so the droplets in your mouth don't get out. you put a mask

david agus who joins us from los angeles. good morning.e have not one, but two bits of hopeful news out of the world of medicine. let's start with remdesivir. dr. anthony fauci cautiously optimistic about it. it's an antiviral drug which means it blocks the virus from replicating. what more can you tell us about it? >> you know, mid-january was my first meeting on covid-19 and literally every day since then we've dreamt of the moment we could say we have a drug that we know works. 1,000 patients decreasing hospitalization by four days. the death rate is down about 30%, although it's not statistically significant. so very powerful. these are treating people who are what we call moderately to severely ill. they are short of breath and very symptomatic. classically with antivirals the earlier you treat the more outcome -- clinical outcome you get and the better it is. seeing this at this stage is very encouraging. we have something in our arsenal to treat the disease. that is exciting. >> very, very encouraging indeed. any caveats in your min

david agus, thank you very much. gayle? >> thank you both.wo of the government's loan program to help small businesses got off to a pretty rocky start. banks had problems getting loan applications into the small business administration's overwhelmed computer system yesterday. another $310 billion is available after the initial $349 billion ran out in just 13 days. ed o'keefe has that story. >> this program was developed to help small companies, and i think that's where they need to start and look at first. >> reporter: samantha canestro runs a business that makes seats for mass transit. >> it wasn't until last week, the 22nd, that i was able to finally get my application submitted. and that was after the first round of funds was already completely gone. >> reporter: for canestro and other small business owners, news that organizations like the l.a. lakers were approved for a loan is hard to take. the lakers are valued at more than $4.4 billion and are returning the more than $4 million they received. >> i'm not spiteful for anyone that receiv

david agus about the possible benefits and risks. >>> switching gears.irst on "cbs this morning," ford shows the auto factory that's now making ventilators. but is it enough and will they get to sick patients in time? >> and reading the room. levar burton on the solice in reading books at this time. >> first, here's today's "eye opener" your world in 90 seconds. >> this san all-out military operation that we've waged. >> the president warning americans to brace for a big spike in coronavirus fatalities. >> this next week is going to look bad because we're still not yet at that apex. >> this is going to be our pearl harbor moment, our 9/11 moment. >> the coronavirus is truly vicious. >> british prime minister boris johnson is now hospitalized a week after he tested positive for coronavirus. >> it's a big move going to the hospital. that's a big thing. he's a great gentlemen, so i just hope he's okay. >> queen elizabeth gave a special address from her residence at windsor castle. it offered words of comfort. >> we will meet again, but for now, i send my th

david agus. >> if i do a test and say, hey, you're immune and you're note, you can spread it to somebody who may be very vulnerable. so the decisions on this test really are critical. so i'd rather no test than a faulty test. >> reporter: as these tests get better and more people are checked, the health department should get a better idea of just how far this virus has spread. the first results from the n los angeless in los angeles should be in by the end of the week. norah. >> o'donnell: carter, thank you. the three vaccines with the most promise are still in the early stages of testing and are 12-18 months away. ti the same time, there are no approved treatments for covid- 19. so tonight we're launching a new series, "racing to a cure," to take a deep dive on the scientific advances to help beat the coronavirus. tonight here's dr. jon lapook. >> reporter: with no vaccine yet for covid-19, a worldwide effort is underway to find medications that target the virus and treat the symptoms, but proper drug testing takes time and patience. >> some time in the summer we'll tart to see which ar

david agus who joins us from los angeles.g. 250 million americans now impacted by the social distancing guidelines. how long will it be before we understand or realize how effective these guidelines have been? >> reporter: you know, there's a delay obviously, there's an incubation period of the virus, two to nine days. then the virus itself has a course of several weeks. testing in the united states still isn't where we need to have it in the big cities. and so we look at hospitalization rates, and i think they're going or they should start to level off over the next week or so in many of the major affected cities now. what we're worried about are the next wave cities that were alluded to earlier in the show. then again there will be a lag between intervention when we stay inside, social distance, to when we see an effect on the virus. >> there's been a shift on the guidance on wearing masks as we've talked about here on this broadcast. what should people know right now about covering their faces in public? >> reporter: they

david agus. >> for the first time, i can say we are on offense rather than defense because we literallye been on defense. >> reporter: the stock market pushed higher on the news led by remedesavir's maker, gilead, and pfizer, which announced today a but front-line testing is still the key to stopping the virus' spread. the 1.5 million conducted last week in the u.s. is far short of the minimum 3.5 million a week needed, according to a harvard report. but testing for covid-19 antibodies is expanding. in new york city, they're now available in walk-in urgent cares. meest diagnostics chief medical doctor jay wohlgemuth says people can now buy their tests online. online. >> we have antibody data available around the country at scale, and that data is going to be really useful as we think about opening up. >> reporter: in hot spots like new york long lines at a food bank show the economic tesperation and overnight cisregard for social distancing. depszeration and ove police were called to disperse thousands of mourners crowded on brooklyn streets after a funeral tuesday night. the mayor call

david agus: >> it is the wrong move to send them home, even if they're asymptomatic or testing negativeow. they need to be in quarantine because of their exposure on the ship until the 14-day period sup. >> reporter: they could be silent carriers of the virus. val myntti says she'll wait if she has to. >> if that would be to stay on board and quarantine in our windowless room, we would do that. >> reporter: you just want to be on dry land. >> we want to see birds. we want to have fresh air. we want sosee sunshine. >> reporter: holland america says many passengers on those ships had already been self-isolating in their staterooms since march 22. and anyone who who is sick and not critically ill will remain on board and receive medical treatment there until they recover. norah. >> o'donnell: all right, manny, thank you.uceded funly ing probh anhat's food insecurity. oprah winfrey pledged $10 million to the battle against hunger. and amazon c.e.o. jeff bezos donated $100 million to a network of food banks. but these generous donation are just a fraction of what they say is needed. here's m

usually when you have a crisis like this people rally around the president he continues to kind of ague tag and i some of the people that he should be bringing into his camp and so if i were advising him i would tell him to just tell the american people what's happening be very straightforward tell them what we have to do to beat this terrible but he says that we're in a war against an invisible enemy and i think that's right so he said he should be more high minded i think and if he did that i think it would be to the benefit of him politically but also to the country if this pandemic goes into the fall will that being tough for his reelection. well again i'm someone who loves down trump i mean i've some frustrated larry because you know 2 months ago we had the best economy we've not had 30 years and i helped with the economic plan together with larry kudlow and some others it was just working beautifully we had the economy just booming we had the lowest unemployment rate 50 years with 6000000 survive jobs we had wages rising we had growth back up and so here we are 2 months later with

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david agus joins us from los angeles with more on this part of the story.avid, it's good to see you. every time i hear the word ca cases, what i know is we're talking about people. when i think about people, in order to save the people, you have to do the testing. we just can't seem to get that right. so in paula's piece, she mentioned a robust form of testing. what exactly does that mean? >> i agree with you, gayle. we have to think about the people. there have been at least 2,000 deaths in the united states each of the last three days. testing is not just the number of tests, the reagents, the people to do the tests. the antibody tests. the social tracing. it's all of them. and so the key is that each state have all of those methodologies and equipment in stock and ready to go in that enterprise program. i'm not confident yet each of the states do. and so we don't even have an antibody test idea in this country, let alone a state having a program to implement it among its citizens. so the plan is interesting with the three steps, and i like that. it makes

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david agus.> thanks, david. >>> tens of millions of americans celebrated easter, in spite of stay-at-home orders and directives. some of them had to wait in long lines at food banks. others went to church. parishioners packed this church in orlando, and many of them had no masks. in kentucky, state troopers recorded license plate numbers of churchgoers who defied orders to stay home. the governor said they must now quarantine for 14 days. and for the first time, pope francis celebrated easter mass inside an empty st. peter's basilica. usually around 80,000 people gather to hear his message. pope francis call for global solidarity and asked for prayers for the sick. >>> ahead -- how the coronavirus could affect a patient's physical and mental health long (tonya) smoking damaged my heart. now i have a battery-operated heart pump. my tip is, stop thinking this can only happen when you get old. my heart failure happened at 38. [announcer] you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit now. how do you g

david agus. she joins us from los angeles. doctor, good morning. we are now seeing certain states starting to partially reopen nonessential businesses. for example, the gyms and hair salons in georgia. what do health experts expect to see as a result? >> reporter: well, it's early, right. i hope that these states have enough testing, both to see who has the disease and who had the disease, with the antibody test. the world health organization this morning made a really amazing and important proclamation that nobody who had the disease that we know is necessarily immune to the disease. there is no data. you cannot get this covid-19 a second time. and that was a big statement. so they're not saying you will get it. they're saying there's no data you won't get it. i'm worried that we don't have contact-tracing programs in place where if somebody does test positive we know what to do and who they contacted with. and we know to do it with them also. >> doctor, before we have a vaccine, and as we slowly open up the country, we have to find a way to live

agus, thank you very much. tony? >> all right, gayle, thank you very much. >>> we want to give people an update on the hundreds of passengers from two holland america cruise ships with confirmed coronavirus cases. they are flying home without being quarantined in the united states. now they do not have symptoms. the "rotter dam" and "zaandam" docked at port everglades, florida, yesterday after weeks at sea. the "zaandam" had been denied entry to several countries. nine people tested positive for coronavirus and four people have died. as manuel bojorquez reports, there are some worries some people may be going home as silent carriers. >> it's going to be a very controlled exit. >> reporter: florida governor ron desantis applauded local and federal officials for finalizing what he called a thoughtful plan. more than a dozen passengers who needed immediate medical assistance were already transferred to nearby hospitals. passengers on board both ships received health screenings yesterday. those cleared for travel would b

david agus. he joins us now from los angeles. dr. agus, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. ripe new york is currently -- >> reporter: new york currently the highe efest epicenter. what phase are we at in flattening this curve? >> reporter: we hope and pray that the data reflect a trend. they're going to continue. they're showing fewer hospitalizations, fewer icu intensive care unit admissions, and fewer people going on a ventilator on a daily basis. they were going up, now they've flattened. the deaths had not yet flattened, but there's a delay of about a week between hospital admissions and decrease in deaths. we hope that's going to continue, and it's not a slowing of the curve but a flattening of the curve. >> the virus isn't going to magically disappear. if the rate of the new cases continues to decline, how do we determine when the right time is to ease those stay-at-home orders? >> reporter: there are two components. there's getting the disease incidence very low, then there's us getting ready as a society, as a co

david agus. he joins us now from los angeles. dr.gus, i'm going to start with the idea from the white house and also from other states. there seems to be disagreement on whether or not there's enough testing to begin this initial phase of starting to reopen our country. on a personal note, the only way i know how to ask this is, it's been six weeks since i've been with my husband and stepson, and i want to know when someone like me is going to be able to get tested so that i can do that. and that means opening this country somewhat. >> reporter: listen, i agree with you. it is a major issue. unfortunately, presently in certain areas of the country. and i say that certain areas of the country, certain areas have testing, and they're efficient. other areas are overwhelmed. remember, there are two kind of testing. what has the virus and who had the virus, the antibody test. in terms who've has the virus right now, in my city, los angeles, there is a significant wait to get a test. we are still only testing people who are symptomatic. i

. >> woodruff: yet, in part, mark, the president does seem to be responding and feeding, if agu will,o these protests nst the governors who -- many of whom are trying to hold ste line and say we've got to keep social cing weeks longer. >> judy, reckless, irresponsib irresponsible, i mean, this is a president who's not only inconsistent, he's contradictory. he told us he had total and absolute ahority, and yet he has no responsibility. you just can't have it both ways. >> woodruff: david, i want to come back to the announcement that joe biden got this week.id wet know if it was going to happen or not, but bernie sanders did endorse joe biden this week, followed pretty quickly by form president obama and elizabeth warren, is the democratic race clear to you now that bernie sand supporters are going to ep enthusiastically back joe biden? what doeit look like? >> well, bernie sanders is enthusiastically bacg, which is noorn he did at this stage our years ago. his followe supporrs, somerobly will not. there are a lot of people who voted for sanders in the primary and trump in the general e

education and communication on the ground as we open things back up in the state and certainly here in agusa. i think that's been the mantra that i've shared with others in the community that this is a time where we've got to be very adept at communicating to those underserved communities that have been the hardest hit by this. >> and a number of civil rights organizations urging african-americans to stay home, urging african-americans who might run small businesses, whoa, take it slow. i want to put up the 14-day trend in reported cases in the state of georgia. if you start at the high point, you can make a case, you're going down from april 20th to 24th. here is the cases here. you go back to april 17th, you can make a case it's going down, but there are some bounces there. you would like a little bit more time to flatten this curve and start to come down more. just your sense. i know you wish the governor didn't do this. as you go around the to the businesses that are reopening, are you confident that those who are taking this chance are doing what's necessary from a safety standpoint? >

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agus. tony? very interesting hearing the doctor say there may be a federal need for a law requiring people to stay home. while the projection are scary, they're not destiny. we have the potential to change that. the reports, particularly here in new york, some 300 people dead just yesterday, bringing the total here in new york city to 1700 -- new york state, rather. mola lenghi, what's that ship in the hudson river going to be used for? >> reporter: good morning, the "comfort" will be used for non-coronavirus patients. it's fully equipped with a laboratory, a dozens operating rooms and a pharmacy. the state of new york has significantly increased the number of beds, up to 75,000, but given the rate this virus is spreading, he says we will very likely need twice that many. a grim sight that's b repeated outside several hospitals in the new york metro area, workers in brooklyn are seeing putting a corpse in a refrigerated truck. hospitals across the city say the icus are nearly full. >> it's surrea

david agus said the study shows promise, but isn't a cure-all. >> we still have to practice social distancingwe still have to wear masks. but you tie together masks, social distancing and the changes that happen in the summer outdoors, and i think we will be on offense against this virus, and my hope is we'll get significantly decreased cases over the summer. >> reporter: having heard the findings, the president has suggestions for treatments for patients. >> supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultra violet or just very powerful light. and then i see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. one minute. and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? i would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there's any way that you can apply light and heat to cure. >> have you ever heard of that? the heat and the light relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus? >> not as a treatment. >> after all this unfolded, medical expert s swiftly and strongly urged people not to improperly use disinfectants,

agus. >> every location needs data like this.s is one of the underpinnings of making a decision if you are a governor. do we let people out of the stay-at-home rules? >> around the country monday, small, yet loud groups of people continue to protest stay-at-home orders. >> it's definitely real, but you can't strip away people's civil liberties. >> reporter: the orders were designed in part to protect this country's most vulnerable people. >> mateo was diagnosed with an inoperable malignant brain tumor. >> reporter: like 4-year-old mateo from long island, new york. he was diagnosed with covid-19 right around the time he was supposed to start chemotherapy. jennifer is his mom. >> the doctors are basically saying that we need to start moving forward with chemotherapy because it's been too long that we haven't had any chemotherapy treatment. >> reporter: mateo, his mom and dad all tested positive for coronavirus. doctors said you have to test negative twice before we bring you in. but his condition is such that doctors are saying, li

david agus joins us from los angeles with more on that part of the story.start with the cdc reporting that there are new symptoms possible new symptoms to diagnose this coronavirus. what are they? >> the cdc had a list of fever, cough and shortness of breath as the symptoms. if you had those symptoms, you could be tested in most places in the united states. they've expanded those to include chills, shaking with chills, muscle pain, headache, sore throw the and loss of taste or smell. critically important because now it means more people can be tested as places that require symptoms for testing and also to educate people that if you have these, you have to consider having the coronavirus. >> since we keep getting new information, does it make it harder to fight this virus effectively? it's such a moving target, it seems. >> we started from scratch. we didn't know what this virus would do, how the human body would respond, how we should respond in fighting. and literally every day we're learning more. we're learning about what it can do to the body. new signs

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