my name is ahmed demetrius, and i own a little buddha's dog walking. i get it that people are not amenable to 12 to 13 dogs. i do not think that somebody can control that many dogs. i've been there are ways to do it. but i think you can let dogs out of the car in small groups. you can have a clear field of vision, and i am really good at picking up the group. i am locked -- like a hawk guy out there about it, so i just wanted to thank you because i know you've done a lot of work and have talked to a lot of people who have different opinions, but i want to encourage you to keep the number as high as possible. i know that in other cities and jurisdictions, the number is a little bit lower, but i think it is really important to consider the urban density of san francisco, really like the density of dogs per square mile and people and the number of parks. i think a higher number more realistically allows us to meet that need and work within that framework. i know for me, one of the reasons that i hate having smaller groups is just the driving in the city.