ahmed rashid. the first one is what happened with someone who is [inaudible] and i would like to know your opinion on what this man is all about, what are his politics. you think by not going to india, he is going to give them -- that he would've struck a deal with them and so on. the second question relates to the pakistani elite. why is the pakistani elite -- why has it been so apathetic for so long? what makes the pakistani elite a strange creature that you think it is. >> you might have to explain what it is because probably not everyone here was following online. >> [inaudible] he has enormous support from young people who want to be changed. that is quite understandable. that step was that both ron and we were invited to delhi at a conference. this gentleman refused to go because he said he was insulted. i don't want to go into it. he was too into the military, that is why he didn't come. look, you know, the matter is very popular. he is trying to build a political belt. but, there are some v