well let's bring in our guests in berlin ahmed saeed is a former political prisoner and the coordinator for the egyptian commission for rights and freedoms in germany in new york so his ease as a professor of law at what has university and director of the center for security race and writes and in boston to make the call this is a non resident fellow at the tucker institute for middle east policy welcome all of you to the program i want to start with my. how significant is it do you think that given this security crackdowns that we have seen over the last couple of years when it's come to protests that these protesters do seem to be prepared to take the risk of being arrested at the very least in order to make their voices heard. this for thank you for the for the invitation. i think that's what are we watching right now in egypt is very significant sign to which indicating that the state of fear that the egyptian regime is a has sure has already been. has already established since 2013. is not working very well for the sake of the egyptian regime is not bringing the stability that the

well let's bring in our guests in berlin ahmed saeed is a former political prisoner and the coordinator for the egyptian commission for rights and freedoms in germany then you work so hard zis as a professor of law at what has university and director of the center for security race and writes and in boston to make the call this is a non resident fellow at the tucker institute for middle east policy welcome all of you to the program i want to start with my. how significant is it do you think that given this security crackdowns that we have seen over the last couple of years when it's come to protests that these protesters do seem to be prepared to take the risk of being arrested at the very least in order to make their voices heard. this for thank you for the for the invitation. i think that's what are we watching right now in egypt is very significant sign to which indicating that the state of fear that the egyptian regime is a has sure has already been. has already established since 2013. is not working very well for the sake of the egyptian regime is not bringing the stability that th