and now we have pepfar, we have a budget, we have a conference on aida, and we are doing something about it, and progress can come, but my god, is it painful. >> so this is a conference on civil rights and the presidency. we have the first african-american president. what's the narrative here and -- you know, certainly one of the stories is the high expectations of the latino community, for instance, on immigration reform or the d.r.e.a.m. act and the sense that the president isn't meeting those expectations. what's the obama narrative on civil rights? >> the argument is never over and the work is never done. with each succeeding generation comes new arguments about who is fully human and who is fully a citizen, and who has the privilege of being a full member of this great extended family. when the founders drafted the constitution, believe me, they never had any idea of a leader marrying her partner in the world war i memorial in d.c. and they never had any idea of roger and charlene sitting up here, and they never had any idea about me either, fright frankly. quite frankly. >> we have