japan is not a member of aiib. however, i have a series of discussion with aiib president, and many of the project in confidence with world bank adp. [inaudible] number of staffers. the aiib was still not able to make assessment of project by -- [inaudible] there have been a lot of opportunity. so the australians, the europeans, better than we have expected on the aiib. but still, we do not consider to join the aiib yet. >> okay. great. rick? >> -- ray? >> we're not an agency, so every one we make we expected to get paid back with interest. and and so as we travel around the world, i was just in africa the last three weeks and countries like zambia or rwanda, botswana, and you land in these countries in these spectacular airports that the chinese built that have no prayer of getting paid back. i mean, the one in botswana, many cities in the united states would love to have it, and they have four flights a day in this airport. they spent tens of millions of dollars building it. the chinese, when i run into it, they'