we were talking about aimee mann earlier before we came out. aimee mann is one of the people today, she's not alone in this, who are actually, you know, resisting this turning everything over to the electronic end of things and allowing music to be, essentially, taken without being compensated for it. all the sonic youth records, from my cursory examination, are all available on spotify. you know, you can get access to this stuff. you have no beef with that? >> i don't really pay attention to it. i mean, i -- i don't know. i don't know, really. i trust our manager's got us the best deal he could. >> honestly not having an opinion about it is a perfectly good answer. >> i really don't. you know, i just don't pay attention to it. i just figure we're not making any money. [laughter]. >> right. >> i mean, i just -- my bar is set pretty low. >> right. you're pretty zen about the whole thing. >> yeah, but i, you know, now i have this duo called body/head with bill nace. >> bill nace, yeah. >> and there are only two of us, so even if we have a sound p