we also have aipac summit meeting which is hosted by china. and i think there is a possibility that perhaps in beijing, china and japan can agree to meet, because china is a host. japan is a guest. so host should treat guest very well spop w well. so why not korea-japan dialogue. and if japan could send the former prime minister to beijing to arrange this foreign ministerial meeting and perhaps the summit meeting, i think japan can also send special envoy to korea so that we can begin our dialogue. now i would like to take this opportunity to state my views to prime minister abe and the abe government in japan. japan is now trying to become a normal state, which means that from the perspective of the japanese leaders, japan is not a full state. something has to be changed in order for japan to become a normal state. and in my view, for japan to become a normal state, the first thing that it has to do is to come to terms with its own history, squarely face the past history. if it is a wrong history, you should learn lessons from it. if it is a

this was expected. >> thank you, sir. >> charles perkins, aipac. two quick things.there's been a lot of discussion about how to prevent the next round, how to stop the smuggling, how dependent are ham -- is hamas now on internal ability to manufacture inside gaza versus stopping outside sources, and secondly, although it's not directly on our topic figure past years you have given us a comprehensive look at the irann ballistic missiles program which is retaliated what was going nongaza. there's -- going on in gaza. and i wonder if you could spend very brief time talking about where the iranian ballistic missile system is going. >> i think gaza very dependent on internal manufacturing. a decision not to rely anymore on smuggled -- on full-scale rocket smuggling but on the material, they'll see that enriching their own prophecy -- proefficiently. and how successful they are in stopping some of the tunnels are still working, and as we hear today, smuggling continues in, and now we have to smoke plutonium. but the iranians, i -- let me say very emphatically, the iranian

and the only reason that we do that is in response to the pressures from aipac and, of course, israel'sition. >> henry sigman, as you are for most, theiar than argument made by israel and supporters of israel is that what might be construed as a disproportionate response by israel to hamas has to do with the historical experience of the persecution of the jews and, of course, the holocaust. so how do you respond to those kinds of claims? >> well, i don't accept that at all, because the lesson from the persecutions would seem to me -- and certainly if you follow jewish tradition, the lesson of those persecutions, we have always said, until the state of israel came into being, is that you do not treat people in that kind of an inhumane and cruel way. and the hope always was that israel would be a model democracy, but not just a democracy, but a state that would practice jewish values, in terms of its humanitarian approach to these issues, its pursuit of justice and so on. i have always felt that, for me, the holocaust experience, which was important to me, since i lived two years under na

aipac down 7. strong in north america. how long do you expect the hardware numbers to hold up?you are optimistic about the passport sales coming down the line? and then if you are conservative. >> hi john. good morning. i'm always conservative. but i do expect to see -- i do expect to see the hardware revenue to continue to up tick. especially because of the passport and as you pointed out, are very well received. and in a couple months we are going to have the -- out. and there is a lot of demand on the classic. >> my main focus of course and i think many investors is on the enterprise side on bez 10 and bez 12. you said blackberry enterprise server 12, you are behind the scenes is going to be out in mid november. i believe you also said by the end of last quarter you had 3.4 million licenses issued on your enterprise server. is it time now to say that you have definitively traction and you are confident that this business is going to grow or do we still have to wait and see how bez 12 buzz. >> first of all the bes 12 we're going to come out in november 13. we're going make th

. >> charles perkins, aipac. two quick things. there's been a lot of discussion about how to prevent the next round, how to stop the smuggling, how dependent are hamas -- is hamas now on internal ability to manufacture inside gaza versus stopping outside sources, and secondly, although it's not directly on our topic, in past years you have given us a comprehensive look at the irann ballistic missiles program which is retaliated what was going on in gaza. and i wonder if you could spend very brief time talking about where the iranian ballistic missile system is going. >> i think gaza very dependent on internal manufacturing. a decision not to rely anymore on smuggled -- on full-scale rocket smuggling but on the material, they'll see that enriching their own proficiency. and how successful they are in stopping some of the tunnels are still working, and as we hear today, smuggling continues in, and now we have to smoke plutonium. but the iranians, i -- let me say very emphatically, the iranian ballistic missile system goes on as befo

one of our sponsors from aipac, heritage foundation, my dear friend, professor curtis from the navaldemy in annapolis, my sponsors from boeing and aerojet, and congressional staff. thank you to all of our military folks who are here today who give us so much. thank you to the marshall fillinge, here today this event. i also want to reach out and say thank you for c-span, they will be broadcasting this event. without anything further, i hope those of you interested in our breakfast will let us know your attending. please give a warm welcome to my dear friend from israel, uzi rubin. [applause] >> good morning, everyone. inays a pleasure to be here this magnificent venue. i was scheduled to be here two months ago, but then tar started and i thought it better to postpone it. i wanted to give you some kind of summary. -- i am not so sure they are over, but it is a good time to sit down. the 2014 2014 gaza war. i am not sure it is over. i talk about the threats on the background. it is very technical, so i will skip a lot of it. side.s of the other the achievement of the iron dome. i will

aipac has some number of investigations and i think at the human rights level you are seeing extensive and serious discussions. again at the end of the day these are issues we are aware of as an administration. at the same time balancing. >> a question here in the front row. >> i'm with the naval postgraduate school. i don't know if any of you saw the nova show last night. he was on data encryption or whatever in a proposal as i understood it was that there are ways in which you can somehow educate a particular part of your brain and you have to get trained to do this they would somehow handle the encryption. i didn't understand it. it was pretty amazing i wasn't sure i want to go through it but i too and anxious about giving my credit card and i don't have a lot of money but the idea that this can make us so uneasy. it's so wonderful in so many ways and so anxiety producing and others when you think about when you get these kids that want to get in and play and they can stop the electric system going. you will have an enormous challenge and i want to thank you for working on it but i