air traffic control systems, i don't know if that's true, but it is pretty bad. but one of the problems with that is they're just terrible managers, getting back to toby's point. under that air traffic umbrella00 employees, half of which are air traffic controllers. if you're any kind of smart manager, you'd say, let's furlough the guys that aren't air traffic controllers. the other thing they did was, they made these furloughs, it didn't matter if you were atlanta hearts field airport or allentown airport, you had the same impact. you think, huh, maybe we should prioritize the hubs. this is just being a smart manager and they're not doing that. >> gary b's point, we've heard from democrats and republicans, both sides, they're saying this really was a political food fight down there and one in washington, d.c., was about politics more than anything, making travelers feel the pain to say, listen, we shouldn'do sequester. we shouldn't have budget cuts. what do you think of that? >> i don't buy it. it sounds like a conspiracy theory. let's make the public miserable to show them how much the sequester hurts. >> but they did! >> the "washington post" looked at this and they decided that actually