china doesn't have to rely on things from the united states. it can buy from europe. buy from brazil. buy, you know, airbus. buy a german medical equipment. doesn't have to buy ge medical equipment and that hurts american companies. if american companies don't sell more they don't knee as many workers and that means less jobs for the american people. >> follow through. when we did the 2018 increased tariffs on china they stopped buying soybeans. they can't, infrastructure, take to the ports, get to the ships. they created an infrastructure in brazil to replace the soybeans bought from america and the american taxpayers subsidized american soybean farmers. a., pay more for the thing that comes in, and b., your tax dollars deal with whatever we've disrupted in the american economy as a result of these tariffs. >> that's right. so middle-income people ended up, middle-income families, ended up paying both ways. pay more at the cash register for the products coming in from china. because the nordstroms, walmarts, home depots, the lowes, they pass those increased costs on to the consumer. and then, of course, t