earlier on sunday russian back separatists late ukrainian prisoners go at a checkpoint in the country's aist the men were lined up to be collected by the red cross for some it was a chance to voice their anger over their treatment here you know i spent 5 years in a basement how can this happen in the 21st century in a european country where for example they are. heading home to dozens of separate as many of them have also faced harsh conditions in captivity. in this conflict volunteer militias have often ignored the rules of war conditions in captivity and the tourists n.g.o.s say the ukrainian government too has violated detainees rights . they tortured me 5 times in jail on a good movie a dream i did they said he's dead take away his body but i survived despite their. many of those have been released for the new year will bring horrifying stories with them. but whatever they've enjoyed now is still a moment to celebrate. for the families and others in a war torn country. and reporter charles mcphedran who brought us that story is with us now so charles a major prisoner exchange the 2nd in

who more than 5 years the ukrainian army has been fighting russian back separatists in the country's aist doors cost around 14000 lives until he came duster region into a conflict saw and. efforts to stop the fighting have come to little when selenski was elected in i pro he promised to restart the peace process that culminated in a meeting this month with his french german and russian counterparts in which today's exchange was a grade. a. that and i'm an exchange between both sides in this conflict to whom based on swapping everyone on the. pieces with the 2 major exchanges complete by the end of the year the impetus in the coming 12 months will be on diplomacy completing the exchanges is a way of building trust between russia and ukraine and the separatists. let's get more on this from our correspondent david stern who's in kiev and who's following today's events for us so david how exactly is this prisoner exchange between russia and ukraine likely to play out i mean do we know for example just how many prisoners are supposed to be swapped. we'll only know the details when it actually

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so as we go to a ukraine and pro russia separatists in the country's aist have begun a prisoner swap the 2nd major exchange since kiev and moscow agreed to swap detainees back in september ukraine and russia's leaders agreed at a paris summit earlier this month to work towards deescalating the conflict that goes back to $24.00 teams so let's start with alex on the record for it who is in moscow for us how big a move is this alexander as far as. potentially normalizing relations. this is the latest in the whole line of them or still words trying to solve the conflict that's been going on since 2014 and this specific last one is still going on they're still very fine the identity of the prisoners that are being swapped of between ukrainian and the russian backed separatists from dunya tsk and lugansk region the final number at this point is still not known there is a number of 55 mentioned by the representative of donetsk separatists that said that this is how many they will hand over to kiev expecting 87 people in return and some of the people that have been kept by the russian backed