out of miami florida, aj delgado a writer, activist and contributor to the compassional review. from college station texas, jose luis, he is originally from honduras and crossed the border as an unaccompanied minor in 2000. thanks to awful you for joining us. linda you are in texas where this issue is there ofoegbu topic every day. did anyone see this coming. >> i assume it did since it happened two years ago when it had to be opened for the surge that year, i am not sure what happened since we never heard anything about it last year. it's a bit of a mystery. >> in 2012 there was a huge certainly is he border. you were actually there, weren't you? >> i was. in 2012 i was one of two attorneys that actually went there and interviewed several of the children. even then there was no real explanation other than the explanation that we hear now that children are fleeing their countries and in some sway unifying with their parents here. it doesn't explain the astronomical number of 60,000 that they anticipated this year, which was what they used as the number last year for this year. s