. >> ambassador akbar ahmed is a professor of studies. american university for noesseni fellow with the brookings institution, a viti professor formerly served as pakistan high customer to the u.k. and the author of several books. professor come on you the member of a tribe from your country as pakistan? >> guest: >> that is an interesting question. i have a question as an anthropologist it is critical to put out there for the reader so everyone knows. my mother is a baton, my father goes back to the profit in islam and i've always found the two are very interesting in my makeup comes along the one hand there is the person who would want peace and create good will and bring people together and compassion more thoughtful and even more mystical. and sometimes these are conflict and i see this in me. so i found that when i was doing the study i was able to get under the skin of the tribal people because that is also part of my heritage but i could reach beyond that and transcend that to reach out and find ways of bringing people together bec

we are pleased to be joined here by professor akbar ahmed at american university to give his most recent book is the vessel and the drone how america's war on taricani global terror on islam. dr. ahmed come visit a clash of civilizations or class of religion? >> i would say it is more complex. i find these concepts rather simplistic and by now more than ten years after 9/11, we should be aware of the complexity of what is happening on the ground a lot where america is involved in the various wars to it i find in this particular study that many of these conflicts are rooted in the clash already taking place before 9/11 between central governments and the tribes and communities on the periphery between states so therefore without an understanding of the culture and the history it is impossible to impose the simplistic notions but i know that we in the united states think of this as a clash of civilizations. talk to iran or someone in somalia or yemen and they will just look at the the daily clash of civilizations. 90% of a survey had no idea what it was 9/11 or who osama bin laden was. as