. >> akeel amar, do you begin by showing them what was left out? >> well, "them" -- >> can you hold that microphone in front. >> from my 6-year-old to my undergraduates to law students, different audiences out to meet ordinary folks. here's my multi-pronged approach, and it's very auto biographical. so my parents, when i was a young boy, take me to mount vernon and to the white house and to the congress, to the capitol hill and independence ha hall, and that just wowed me. my teachers had role play exercises where it's 1850 and you're henry clay and you're daniel webster, and that was kind of cool. and he i read storybooks, history books, books of the stort that david mccullough writes for an ordinary audience that's accessible to ordinary people. then i get to college, and i read gordon wood's work. so here's now takes that -- autobiographical. that's how i got into this. i do think the national constitution center is a great public space and i really got to know gordon when he was the founder really of the academic board. >> so you start very you