cameron, they had filmed together with james cameron before, james was, that is, the director, and al giddings co-producer, so they were filming the movie the abyss, he was on our show, so that is , when the film ended, ella giddings he was 47 minutes and commented on this film at... cronkite, so to speak, a famous announcer, i remember when i showed this film to georgy arkadyevich arbatov, director of the institute of the united states of america and canada, he says that he is advertising you, says walter cronkie, i say, i got up and left, these were arbatov's words, i remember, well, well, jim, you see , watched this film, and as he already told me. elldins, he says, everyone had already left the hall, and we sat for 2.5 hours, he says, we talked, so in general, he says, jim asked a lot of questions, asked about me, wanted to meet with me, here is the first meeting in july 1992, el giddings and jim cameron arrive, so to moscow, we immediately, so, move from sheremetyevo to vnukovo and fly to kaliningrad. where kelzash stood with two worlds, this was our first acquaintance, we, so, of course,