host: these two reporters are working for al gore's current tv.his piece reports that al gore and may go there to negotiate the release of the two american journalists on trial and now convicted for illegal entry. st. louis, good morning on our democrats' line. caller: i don't think they should be put back on the terrorism list. they have not done this like we have been doing. i don't know how we can have a leg to stand on after iraq, after what we have done to people in guantanamo and afghanistan. we don't even allow people to have a try. we torture them. we know that the media is run by the pentagon, so who's to say there were not over their spying? host: 84 the comment. you can also send this in e- mail. -- thank you for your comment. north korea has a population of more than 22 million people. they're not going to attack anyone. they're putting its chest, looking for reactions. the previous caller was talking about 1 ton of. here is "roll-call" this morning. on may 20, 50 members of the senate democratic conference work on the record as nimbys

and chief of staff to vice president joe biden, a position he knows well of serving as serving to al gore. before joining vice president gore staff, ron was chief of staff to the attorney general janet reno and associate counsel to president clinton in charge of judicial selection. mr. klain has been in five presidential campaigns, he directed the fall debate preparations for president obama as well as for john kerry in 2004. in 2000 he served as general counsel to vice president recount committee in florida, a role made slightly more famous than kevin spacey. on capitol hill he served as the staff director for the senate democratic leadership committee and chief counsel for the u.s. senate committee on the judiciary for then senator joe biden. no francisco, civil and criminal involved the federal and state government including enforcement actions brought by government lawsuits and gets government in congressional investigations can he has recognized authority on constitutional and national security laws. in addition, mr. francisco advises individuals and companies subject to congressiona

al gore said the vice president has one other do you which is to cast a vote in the senate when there is a tie vote. as he is fond of saying, every time i vote, we win. in the case of vice-president biden, president obama has asked him to be a counselor at large and take on special projects as they come up. right now we are spending a lot of time implementing the recovery act and have a lot of our staff working on that. on the foreign-policy side we are working on issues of non- proliferation. i think that we do aside from the specific responsibilities, the general role of applying advice to experience and some insights as did mr. she makes these decisions. in vice president biden states, a lot of it is a 36-year track record and a lot of relationships in trying to pass the resolution and staying in touch with his colleagues to move the agenda along. we have faced the question of how to approach the vice- president see after vice- president cheney's controversial tenure in office. we have focused on a couple of major things. the first is transparency. some of those things are small th

al gore has -- never takes any questions. when he goes out and speaks and goes to universities, not only does he not debate, which would be a good idea, he refuses to take questions. how many times have we heard, every prominent scientist agrees, so you must be a cook if you disagree? well, every prominent scientist doesn't agree and the names of hundreds of manmade -- of those people in the scientist community, people who are head -- scientific community, people who are heads of universities, one of the great scientists from m.i.t., from all over the world, there are major scientists who have put themselves on the record and taken a great risk in doing so telling the public that, no, they are very skeptical and have serious doubts about the manmade global warming theory. the name calling and stifling in this debate by the manmade global warming advocates has been shameful and a disservice to democracy. if someone so much as tries to make a joke it is reported as if it is being serious. the people do that are themselves admit

so, al gore's scientific mumbo jumbo was wrong. all the scientists agreeing with him is wrong. the temperature predictions have been wrong. and the manmade co-2 premise is wrong. now we find out that the monitors used to collect the data were placed next to air conditioning exhaust vents which made the temperature higher and in parking lots and on top of buildings and near other heat sources which of course made all of their statistics totally unreliable. we hear that. we also know the methodology of using computer models has been questionable from the very beginning. we all know the saying, garbage in, garbage out. but no one was permitted to hear the questions, no one was permitted to ask follow-up questions as to -- no one has been permitted to totally understand the software that went into that questionable computer modeling. the observations have been wrong. the attempt to stifle debate and shut up those people who disagree by calling them names, denying grants and making personal attacks has been wrong. thus i would suggest the biggest power grab in newer -- in our histor

hanson's or al gore's presentation. it does not make sense to me with the science i have in my background. so i simply, madam speaker, ask a question, the foundational question, what are we trying to do here and with what? that would be the logical think to sksm first thing is, how big is our atmosphere? our atmosphere happens to be, they measure there in rhett meth rick tons, 1.50 qua drillon tons of metric atmosphere. there's a lot of air in the atmosphere. what is the cumulative total of all the co-2 that's gone into the atmosphere emitted by the united states of america since the dawn of the industrial revolution. 45% of it goes away, they don't know where, 55% hangs out in the air. that sounds big, but not compared to the overall atmosphere. it works like this. madam speaker if you draw a circumstance that will represented the size of the atmosphere of the earth and have that be an eight-foot circle so roughly the size of the wall in your house, two four by eight sheets of drywall, that big in iam ter that would re

so all of al gore's mumbo jumbo is deceptive and the contention that all of the prominent scientists that agreed with him was not true, wasn't true then and it's especially not true now and i'd like to add, and i will add at this point to the record, mr. speaker, mr. chairman, a long list of prominent scientists who oppose the manmade global warming theory. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. rohrabacher: the temperature predictions have been wrong. the manmade co-2 premise is wrong and we now find out that the monitors used to collect the data that were placed next to the air conditioning exhaust vents in parking lots and on top of buildings near to heat sources which of course made all of their data unreliable, we now know that was done wrong. we also know the methodology of using computer models has been questionable from the very beginning. all we know, garbage in and garbage out. but let's take a look at the computer models that we have been told are the basis for all of these predictions, many of whom now know we're wrong. no one was permitted to hear the questions

so it's no surprise that as quickly as al gore was invited to come to washington to help lobby on this, it seems that he was disinvited rather quickly. mark my words: the american people are going to remember this vote. this will -- this will be a defining moment in a defining vote in this congress. the real question is where are the democrats going to stand on this. house republicans have the better plan. that would produce more energy, more green energy, lower energy prices and actually do more to clean up the air than having this giant government bureaucracy as suggested by our friends across the aisle. on healthcare, the president again last night attempted to sell the democrats' government takeover of our healthcare system. and even the president is backtracking on his clain that americans can keep the coverage that they have. do you all know the c.b.o. report the can bedy bill in the senate made it clear than 23 million americans would lose their coverage under the kennedy bill in the senate. we haven't seen yet the c.b.o. score on how many millions of american coverage under the

books now teachers show movies, films and glass, show if the subject is global warming you have seen al gore's film and may have seen it in french class. i had a student at penn state that complained about being shown michael moore's "sicko" in french class. here's a sample indoctrination course. at the university of california, santa cruz is a course which is described in the official university catalog in these exact words. the goal of this seminar is to learn how to organize a revolution. and then it tells you it is an anticapitalist revolution. now the subject of revolution is totally appropriate for an academic setting if it is taught the approach is academic. that is what is a revolution and as it happens there are people that have different definitions what a revolution is. in fact there was a book written the anatomy of revolution which explores these perspectives. so then you would say, you know, what kind of revolutions have there been because the french revolution was different from the american revolution and the american force was the bolshevik revolution. then he would ask what k

. >> he did not want to talk about al gore. is the department receptive to the former vice president ? >> i am not here to predict anything. in the past, you have had people that will resolve situations like that. >> is the taliban expanding its influence?

your blog that it would be like a conservative candidate swamping bellcore in all for a liberal -- al gore swamping in a liberal county. guest: i think that mr. mir hossein mousavi, in his own town, was swamped. that makes no sense at all. guest: i was talking to end iranian experts this week in washington. his guess, fairly inform, was that the ayatollah khamenei wanted a big victory from -- for ahmadinejad. the word went out. they all became overly successful, getting into the 60's, when they probably needed an election of 57%, not 62%. they overplayed their hand. all of the thousands of people who are responsible, and the boat got higher than the regime expected. -- vote got higher than the regime expected. it strain plausibility. you might not have had people in the streets were not for a small percentage. guest: 1972, nixon decided to manipulate that election a little bit. guest: i would not want to comment on that. guest: i am saying that the over the top behavior is something that the government wanted to do and it has come back at them. host: basically, according to this, "we canno

one of the clips i would like to please state it is representing al gore and the democratic campaign, and as quickly as he set out to try to make an argument on one point, he was diverted by justice kennedy. >> i think at that point you can conclude what it has done is changed the law. i think the standard is the standard the court generally applied indifference to the state decisions. >> but is it in line with article 2i am also sure. i would hope that is on a standard whether it completes it is in the legislature. does that not mean that a court has to interpret a legislative end and give special deference to the legislation's to moises? i would think that is accountable. and especially in light also of the concerns about section 5. >> i think, your honor, if the courts can import a rule of law i think what needs to take account the fact the legislature does have the -- i think when the supreme court if it does so within the interpretation that this subject for florida's civil courts. >> we are responding as if there were no burden to show -- [inaudible] in the context of selection

. >> al gore flunk gd out of his first college. and squeaked through his second. with a c-minus average. dick cheney the famous vice president flunked out, too. when his sat scores in language and math are added together, the legendary progressive senator paul wellstone scored 800 as a total. now, it is true that in his day, the match was only 1600 and now i believe it is 2400, still that is a 50 and america's global computer dominance rose as i told you from men without college degrees. ted turner, founder of the worldwide news service cnn, dropped out of -- dropped out freshman year and william faulkener, one of our nobel prize authors got a d in english in his freshman year in college. and, dropped out, then and there, never to return, warren avis who pioneered auto renlsz at airports considered college but decided against it as a waste of time and money. and ed hamiltonings the nation's largest independent mail-order book dealer told me the time and money he saved by not going to college gave him a real head start over his competition, and was the foundation o

al gore got more votes, but not enough to stay out of the supreme court where president bush was elected 5/4. he was reelected in 2000 for all right. we were still in the capsule of fear from 9/11. we never defeated a president involved in the military conflicts. it was the smallest margin of victory since woodrow wilson's victory in 1916. in 2006, we won the congress back. it was the first time we had been free to think about all the things that we cared about. it was the first time in the cultural run of the republicans when we had an opportunity to see what would happen if what they talked about was actually done. bush said republican congress. the american people did not like it very much. i remember on the morning after the election, you know, in 2006, i told hillary, i said, if we do not nominate a convicted felon, we're going to win. a democratic nominee will be the president of the united states after the 2008 election. you could see two things going together. people believe in the promise of their country, and we were culturally different country. one of these made president oba

lisa also was counsel to vice president al gore before her duties -- before duties in the vice president's office, she served in the office of legal counsel in the department of justice. she has seen a lot of variety from different perspectives. he is executive she of staff to vice president joe biden. before joining vice-president gore's staff, ron was chief of staff to janet reno and assist -- associate counsel in charge of judicial selection. he has been a veteran of five presidential campaigns. he directed the fall debate preparations for president obama as well as john kerry in 2004. in 2000 and served as general counsel on the vice president recount committee in florida, a role made slightly more famous by kevin spacey. on capitol hill he stirred that reduce service that staff director for the senate democratic committee. enforcement actions brought by government lawsuits against governments and in congressional investigations. mr. francisco advises clients before the committee on foreign investment in the united states and is a recognized authority on constitutional and national sec

so if the subject is global warming, you've seen al gore's film and you may have seen it in a french class or i had a student at penn state that complained about being shown michael moore's sicko in a french language class. the chairman of the department thought that was perfectly appropriate. here's a sample indoctrination course. at the university of california santa cruz is a course which is described in the official university catalog in these exact words. the goal of this seminar is to learn how to organize a revolution. and then it tells you what's an anti-capitalist revolution. now, the subject of revolution is perfectly appropriate for an academic setting, if it's taught -- if the approach is academic, that is, what is a revolution? and as it happens, there are very -- people have different definitions of what a revolution is. in fact, crane britain wrote a book called "the anatomy of revolution" which explores these perspectives. so then you would say, ask, you know, what kinds of revolutions have there been, because of the french revolution was very different from the ameri

let's look at the job of a vice-president -- is heat harry truman, al gore, thomas jefferson? i think not. i think that joe biden needs to think before he speaks. if he needs to run, what he will say through the president's office, but so he does not have to -- so that president obama does not have to say it oh, my gosh, what did joe biden say? he needs to be that if something were to happen to president obama, he needs to step in immediately. whether we like it or not, he needs to be seen as a credible man -- and he is not. he needs to be seen as a person who is helping the white house when he speaks -- and he is not. i know that during the campaign there was a lot of ridicule of governor sarah palin -- well, having this person as vice president, they should be ready to become president. when i compare governor sarah palin to vice president joe biden -- i do not think he is a much better -- he is not harry truman or roosevelt. host: let me get you to respond to what this historian, robert writes. "despite his reputation for occasional gaffes, he has been an effective point ma

i mean, i've been fortunate, i've had time meeting people like al gore, i just read james lovelock, an absolutely brilliant scientist and essential reading for everybody, i think, tim flannery's book, ray a lot about global warming and i'm not sure whether it's too late, but we have got to move extremely quickly, i think to save this beautiful world that we have got for our children and grandchildren. so we will keep working on it. >> how quickly could some of these alternative fuels come online and what's the outlook for alternative fuels, things we haven't even thought of, for the next decade? >> i sort of answered part of that question but i think that the -- i think that the alternative, there's some alternative fuels that could be used right away. if america were not trying to protect its farmers, and i think mistakingly so, who produce corn-based ethanol, and effectively making it prohibitively expensive for sugar-based ethanol to be brought in from brazil, most of your cars in america could be run today up to 85% of all cars -- every individual car could be run on a very clean s

professionals, meteorologists, physicists, more of them are peeling off and walking away, saying al gore is wrong. but even if he were right if one stipulated that, and i don't for a minute, but if one stipulated the global warming models were right the economic calamity that comes from adding to the costs of all of america's business is intolerable and the burden that it shifts onto future generations and what it does to our economy, our culture and civilization are intolerable, madam speaker. and so let them make the case once as muhammad ali said after he fought joe frazier to a tie in 15 rounds, was this, you tied how come you're still the world champ, you've got to whoop the champ. the champ is free enterprise, the champ is sound science, the champ is empirical data. the champ is the history of the united states succeeding by believing we can achieve and by making logical conclusions with the science we have and the economics we have. by the way, it's free enterprise not nationalization and let's add an extra czar or two to this list of 22, let's do the denationalization czar, the e

through his policies, you put it into that context -- and with the media when after bill clinton and al gorehen he ran for election, if you look at the way that the media has treated democrats and republicans suddenly the media is being easier on barack obama -- and all of a sudden everyone is accusing the media of being so easy on obama. if you put it into context you can see that maybe it is be a little easier, but considering how they have treated democrats in the past and let republican slide as with bushes really not a big deal. host: this is based on a piece from "the philadelphia inquirer." a former abc news journalist is now communications director and the white house's office of health reform. the washington paper reported that employees of abc gave it 80 times as much in contributions to obama's campaign as they did to his republican opponent, john mccain. a study released this month by the business in media institute found that abc news had erred stories with positive reviews of obama's health care policy 55 times while it featured only 18 - stories on the subject. the coverage ha

now, people in your -- al gore claimed that the climate change, man-made, so-called, it is nothing but a theory, sir. it has not been proven. it has not been proven that it is man-made. guest: first, let me say that we have consulted, over 2.5 years now, with the electric utility industry, and primarily with those electric utilities that are using coal in order to generate electricity. let me just note one in particular. the largest coal-fired utility in the united states is american electric power, and chief executive officer of american electric power, michael morris, has been a frequent participant with us in hearings before the house energy and commerce committee as we have structured our climate change control legislation. he supports the legislation that we have bought from the committee. he is encouraging that that measure passed the floor. he is well aware of what costs will be entailed in how the costs can be met. and american electric power has taken a real lead among utilities across this nation and in fact around the world in demonstrating the state of the art technology fo

i was fortunate to have some of those pictures in al gore's film it in inconvenient truth. ultimately the democratic expression is best i think accomplished by the race for the presidency. if you want to find a single of an all-american as are joined together in a single exercise i kept thinking what is the one thing that we all do together? well, you can say that we all pay our taxes on april 15th. the son something really necessarily to celebrate. then when i started looking to april 15th that day has a bad vibes as we would sing california. the bad vibes are basically that abraham lincoln was assassinated on april 15th and also the titanic went down so i thought, i think it is basically going to be the photograph in of presidents. so when i started john was sometimes referred to me as possibly i was one other earlier citizen journalists but prior to the internet when i started photograph in america and needed to photograph presidents but unlike some of the people may be here i had had no press credentials to do so. and again i thought i have to photograph presidents but

one of the clips i'd like to play is david boyce representing al gore and the democratic campaign and as quickly as he set out to try and make an argument on one point, he was diverted by justice kennedy. >> i think at that point then you can conclude that what it has done is to change the law. but i think the standard is the standard this court has generally applied giving deference to state supreme court decisions. >> but is it in line with article 2, i'm not so sure. i mean, i would have thought that was the standard when it contemplates it is plenary power in the legislature, does that not mean that the court has to in interpreting a legislative act give special deference to the legislature's choices insofar as a presidential election is concerned? i would think that is a tenable view anyway. and speebl -- especially with concerns in line with section 5. >> in interpreting the florida law, i think the court needs to take into account the fact that the legislature does have this plenary power. i think when the florida supreme court does that, if it does so, within the normal ambit

so, al gore got more votes but not must have to stay out of the supreme court where president bush was elected 5-4. and then he was re-elected in 2004 all right. we were still in sort of the capsule of fear from 9/11. and we never had defeat add president involved in a military conflict. but it was the smallest margin of victory since woodrow wilson's victory in 1916. then in 2006 we won the congress back. it was the first time since 9/11 we were free to think about all of the things we cared about. it of the first time in the 40-year cultural run of the republicans when we had had an opportunity to see what would happen if what they talked about was actually done. because president bush had a republican congress. and the american people didn't like it very well. i remember on the morning after the election i said, you know, -- in 2006 -- i told hillary, if we don't nominate a convicted felon, we are going to win, the democratic nominee will be the president of the united states the 2008 election. because you could just see the two things going together. people believed in the promise

also on the hill, former vice president al gore meets with the democratic caucus at lunchtime in support of a scheduled vote this week on energy and climate change. and those are some of the headlines on c-span radio. >> as this year's supreme court term comes to an end, here it chief justice robert stock about the court's work. then a panel of experienced court watchers including linda greenhouse, jan crawford greenberg, and ted olson review the decisions. saturday morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. >> july 4 weekend, discover an unfamiliar side of our nation's first president as we are live from george washington's mount vernon estate with historian and author john ferling. sunday, july 5, lion on "in depth." >> "washington journal" continues. host: we want to welcome back eric cantor, house minority leader and republican from virginia is seventh congressional district. thank you for being with us. guest: good to be with you. host: let me begin by showing you an excerpt of what the president said last night on the abc program in regards to how this program, these changes in health care will

tipper and al gore i am told at the olympics in atlanta and said that that had motivated us, the surgeon general's report on fitness, wouldn't it be terrific if we had a report on mental health and they approached the surgeon general and as i am told from the surgeon general himself and howard goldman who can't keep a secret, when david was initially approached by the course he didn't think that the science was really adequate for a surgeon general's report on mental health and he became to the process and complete and absolute convert to an impact on how they people, 2010 goals were developed for of the top-10 related to mental health because he came to understand that mental health is fundamental to howff in every way. you might remember in 96 we had a purity law passed, it wasn't all that we wanted but was enormously important in terms of its symbolism. i do remember the year, tipper does but president clinton ordered parody in the programs and had the power to do that. by doing that he created a parity benefit and it was that benefit to which allowed us to really to understand lookin

being indicted -- actually, he pfundraiser for al gore clinton. he had been a very prominent national democrat from chicago and rod blagojevich turned to him to want to know how tol)c p together a national fundraising operation, probably in about the third year of his first -- second year of his first term. so this is -- he wanted the roots. into, you know, how to put together this organization. and he also turned to a political strategy firm out of+ washington, d.c.,Ãsquire, knaap and dunn, they were trying to position rod blagojevich to be a national candidate. and that's what happened to a lot of his politics in illinois because many of his policies that he was so passionate about, such as some kind of universal healthcare, even the all-kids program which was a very successful program, many of those were based -- i mean, he believed in these things but they were also -- would position him very well for a run of a presidency. he liked these big national issues that could get national press to put himself in a position to run. we called

connection, as our audience probably knows by now, we weren't for one of the co-founders of vice president al gore who said he would travel to north korea. is that what the north korean government wants? guest: they certainly would like that. that's a very high-profile visit of a former vice president. north koreans always like that kind of attention. so that is the sort of thing that they would want very much. host: let me ask you to go back to 1999 and 2000. the north korean government, pyongyang did make some overtures to the clinton administration. they invited president clinton to travel to north korea. he did not go but secretary of madylin albright did go. what transpiped that's kind one step forward two steps back? guest: well, i think the bush administration came in and realized basically -- basically caught the north koreans cheating on some of their declaration that they gave to the clinton administration with regards to not the processing of plutonium but the processing of highly enriched uranium which is another pathway towards nuclear weapons. so the bush administration confronted th

that performance is important and that the event is what helped al gore beat bill bradley and john kerry beat how word team. tremendous amount of organization went into it to mobilize people and his performance was up to the moment. it put him on the path to winning in iowa. >> host: the guest is richard wolffe. the book is "renegade." door is on the democratic line. >> caller: good morning. i would like to ask richard, first i would like to say i watch him on msnbc. >> guest: thank you prieta >> caller: i would like to ask two questions. what does he think about the president's cabinet and what does he think about all of the flip-flops' he has done? >> guest: that is a good question. you know, the most striking thing about the cabinet is frankly hillary clinton's presence would and given the bitterness there was between the two individuals come naturally in many ways there was more bitterness of on the people and they are working together have a staff level i think it was quite an extraordinary move to bring hillary and as he told me in the oval office this was a decision he made before

some of his images in al gore's film, an inconvenient truth. on the credit card of the u.s. olympic team. open closeup publications. maybe that capitol hill brochure joe introduced you to. it's a match made in heaven based on the things that joe photographs and the things that closeup has interest in. with i interviewed joe to you museum about a year and -- at the museum about a year ago, playing off this notion he iced this term photo historian and i finally had a term after knowing joe all of these years that finally made sense. he never really left of the cast room as suggested. he just changed to his students -- i'm going to hold this book up and it takes two arms because it's a waity tope, here it is, "visions of america, photographing american history." it went from sort of photographing the veneer, the iconic superficial images of america to thinking about the idea, photographing democracy, and that's what he's attempted to do in this significant project. the book is just part of it. his new format includes a symphony, original music, the prototype premiered in philad

america should not be the first lemming to jump off a cliff because nancy pelosi, al gore and others are convinced china and india will follows over the ledge. republicans have a plan to invest in more energy here yet democrats refuse to allow us a vote on this plan. i urge my colleagues to vote no. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. waxman: i'm pleased to yield to the gentleman from illinois who made sure in this legislation, among other important cricks, that we looked out for the interests of low-income people. mr. rush, i want to yield a minute and a half. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for a minute and a half. mr. rush: i want to thank the gentleman and i want to thank you, madam speaker. today marks a historic chance to move our great country forward and transform our economy for the demands of the 21st century. i fully support this bill, it will not only make our country more efficient and energy efficient, but provide economic opportunities for our citizens while opening an entirely new sector of our economy. i must

i'm happy to have that debate with al gore and the rest of them that come along. even if they're right on the science, and they're not, they're really, really wrong on the economics. this is almost -- this has almost become a religion. it's got political inertia. and we saw and heard from a ph.d. from spain who has been in the middle of -- spain embraced the green country, they want to be the leader in green energy for the world, the industrialized world. so they set about doing that and they built a bunch of wind chargers and they raised the cost of their electricity. they became the leaders in renewable energy and the industrialized world. they also became the leaders in unemployment at 17.5%, the leaders in the increase in utility bills, 20% to residents, but 100% increase for industry, for electrical bills, and even then, this is over a three-year period of timex even then they couldn't keep up with the -- period of time, even they they couldn't keep up with the cost of electricity so they had to bond them out on the financial market, didn't have the money to

convicted -- actually pled guilty to corruption and it was joe kerry who had been a fundraiser for al gore, for bill clinton. he'd been a very prominent national democratic from chicago. and rod blagojevich turned to him to want to know how to put together a national fundraising operation probably in about the third year of his first term -- second year of his first term so he wanted the roots into, you know, how to put together this organization. and he also turned to a political strategy firm out of washington, d.c., squire, knaap and dunn as soon as they were creating a national fundraising strategy they were trying to position rod blagojevich to become a national candidate and that's what happened to a lot of his politics in illinois because many of his policies that he was so passionate about such as some kind of universal healthcare, even the all-kids program which was a very successful program -- many of those were based -- i mean, he believed in these things but they were also would position him very well for a run for the presidency. he liked these big national issues that could g

he used to be on al gore he's side, clearly he says we have reevaluated. david bellamy, the same thing is true there, he was on the other side. so there is no consensus on this -- on the fact that they think that the gases are causing global warming. the other thing is we don't have global warming right now. we're in the fourth year after cooling spell. but that's beside the point. i'm not here to address the science. i'm here to focus on the argument advanced by my colleagues, which is that unilateral u.s. action on global warming will compel other nations to follow our lead. as i've documented in speeches before, since 1998, and, by the way, if anyone wants -- my colleagues want to look up the speeches, it is inhofe.senate.gov. look it up. if you have insomnia some night, it might be good to read them. they're all about two hours long. many would find it troubling, indeed, even if you believe the flawed ipcc or united nations science that science dictates any unilateral action by the united states will be completely ineffective. the e.p.a. even confirmed