and he was, at the same time, praising al gore for all the other things he was doing. but he had to put that in to make clear that he wasn't going to be down the line in agreement with everything gore was doing. >> let's talk about rfk for a second because of the politicians we've mentioned, he was arguably the one who changed the most and was on a trajectory that was foreshortened so tragically in los angeles. he began, as tom read, arthur's relationship with him began with the bad bobby, the bobby of the mccarthy era, the bobby who was very much the enforcer, was much more conservative and ends by 1968 as really seeing rfk as the great hope of fulfilling the promises, the spirit, the ethos of the new deal and the better parts of the great society. what was that journey like? >> with well, i think that the assassination of jack kennedy was such a profound and shattering experience for bobby kennedy that even as he had become very -- quite liberal during his time as attorney general in his brother's administration, it, you know, it was almost like the way fdr changed af

at the same time praising al gore but he had to put added to make clear with everything al gore was doing >> of the politicians we have mentioned the what changed the most of the trajectory after it ended so tragically in los angeles his relationship with him and began the body that was the enforcer or much more conservative. then by 18682crfk as a great hope of fulfilling the promise of the new deal what was that germany like? >> the fascination of jack kennedy with such a profound experience from bobby kennedy that even as he has become quite liberal under various times with the but brothers administration almost like the way fdr changed after polio and about the issue of blacks or whites and a panoply of civil rights issues but it made them regrettably full verbal and he became an iconic figure of american politics in a populous of society that people saw it could breed together the establishment of the poverty-stricken and population to create a society that would work together to solve these problems but it is a fascination. >> did your father ever talk to about the conspiracy theori

. >> our conversation with al gore is up next. we asked what the former vice president had to say about the big drivers in global change and what he would do if in the white house. you are watching "morning joe." "stubborn love" by the lumineers did you get my email? i did. so what did you think of the house? did you see the school ratings? oh, you're right. hey babe, i got to go. bye daddy! have a good day at school, ok? ...but what about when my parents visit? ok. i just love this one... and it's next to a park. i love it. i love it too. here's our new house... daddy! you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. >> here with us now, former vice president al gore. the author of the future. drivers of global change. you are in the news a lot with your business dealings and acquisitions and sales and you edited this book? >> i applied a chamois cloth. it was great to have john as my editor. as the vice president will tell you, there were moments where a beautiful mind seemed relevant. i h

al gore, there were newspaper headlines about al gore denouncing the kennedy tax cut as a bonanza for fat cats. and there's a tape of kennedy denouncing al gore, sr. as a son of a bitch. to get a wide spectrum of advice. when you decide, decide. and the third, kennedy leadership principle i deserved this, stick to your principles. there's a myth out there i think propagated by a few liberal historians who were not representative of the broader kennedy administration that kennedy underwent a sort of liberal conversion, final months of his administration after he gave his speech at american university. i write in the book that that's a distortion. it's not only a distortion of the chronology, because after the devilish american university speech kennedy went to berlin and said anyone who thinks that it's possible to work with the calmness, let them come to berlin. but even jacqueline kennedy in her interviews with arthur schlesinger, jr., which are only recently released, dismissed it as nonsense. annika she said even after the detente, he knew khrushchev was a gangster. so kennedy at t

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they have their high priest, the nobel laureate, oscar winner, al gore.gh accept what he says with faith, without reason, without logic. john: it does have the ring of a religion and just, some blindness to the facts, you mentioned al gore. i was surprised to see him build these monster homes while preaching what he was preaching? >> the hypocrisy is monumental. you have this 19,000 square foot mansion inth tennessee. a group was able to get ahold of his utilities and they were 20 times that of an average american. he also has a mansion in mon that cito. that is near oprah's house. john: are any of them call themselves environmental activists notl hypocrites? do some of them live that life? >> ed begly, jr., is often mentioned. darrell hannah. they actually live a life-style consistent with what they preach. but boy, is that a rarity, john. i mean the vast majority of celebrities take on pew lens to the highest level. john: rapper p. diddy made a video telling people, turn your lights out, but holeds a bunch of big houses. recent tv combined his video wit

. >> you site david boice, he represented ibm against the united states, al gore in his election, he also is dyslexic. the new statesman said, according to your theory, siting statistics showing proportionately more people with dyslexia enjoy worldly success than without. not even gladwell can run the experiment in which boyce repeats his dyslexia, seems more personal about the attack but there was a lot of it about the dyslexia part. >> you can say certain things, not every idea can be presented or tested with scientific rigor. it's not possible. in my book outliers, i play with the idea that perhaps something about the culture of rice cultivation in southern china has contributed to asian success, chinese success in mathematics. is that a provable assumption? have no, you can't rerun history, see how chinese would do it if they hadn't had a rice cultivation, but is it not useful to play with that idea? of course not. first submit it to seven layers of academic rigor, they're saying the world would be a very boring place. i think it's fun to play with ideas, so in the case of david

i remember when al gore came back from south africa, how just enthusiastic he was to have met nelson gore like so many other senators fought and, of course, pushed for legislation to end the partide and in 19 94 mandela thought da m -- democracy was the only way to solve problems and wanted 100% precipitation. he wanted people to be encouraged. there was a lot of uncertainty. he kept pressing us to train people, train everyone, train them like you do down in the south and up north and bill lynch that we lost, he was the deputy mayor of new york city who was insurance mental in bringing mandela here in the 1990s, bill lynch practically all of us who really went out of our way to train people to get them ready for that election. >> i'll never forget being there on election day, there was a blazing sun and standing in line with people that never voted in their lives, people in 70s and 80s standing in the hot sun for hours and hours in this long line just to cast a vote for the first time in their lives. donna thanks for being with us. we'll be right back. more with the panel. [ male ann

i want to thank al gore for giving me the list of sanctions and giving them to the country and being really tough. wesley clark's pay, who i am grateful for and is no longer with us was absolutely true but he will also tell you not all the military field the way they did. and after we got the peace agreement and had to send a peacekeeping force in, it was al gore that got everybody in the room and reminded them we were all on the same team and we better begin to act accordingly. that is one of vice president is for, to be the bad cop. he was great at it. i want to thank a lot of other people along the way who were no longer here. i would like to make one mineral point. one of the things i tried to emphasize when i wrote the memoirs, everything happens at once. we finished bosnian peace accord in november of 1995 in the middle of the two government shutdowns, after one, quite appropriate for today, don't you think? 1995 was a big year. we restored president aristide, democratically elected leader of haiti, the cease-fire in northern ireland which led to the good friday accord which st

al gore went out there and basically accepted that without complaint.s that w. was president. there were no legal challenges. there is an asymmetry between the hard right and the left. to say they are the same not true. >> there's an extraordinary speech by al gore that night and many observers thought if al gore had spoken that way over the campaign he probably would have won that election. >> if he had richard goodwin throughout the campaign instead of the concession speech it would have helped. >> we'll talk about the interview tonight. good luck. >> i hope i can do my job. katty, what's next? >> coming up, we'll have more here on "morning joe" with the economist which is looking into its krystal ball for the year ahead. we'll break down the magazine's predictions from music industry to president obama getting his second term back on track. stay with us for more "morning joe." we'll be right back. vo: it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if y

they go up in price and bought by the al gore lovers. how among the biggest supporters nobody buys in to this. >> voting with their feet. there is a politicals a fect this. tony abbott the new prime minister there. he became prime minister largely because he posed their carbon tax. they implement and was unpopular. >> they realize it was harming the economy. australia is dependent on minerals. this was a disastrous tax among others. look at germany and denmark, it's three times more than the united states. they take unproven theory, unscientifically proven to apply it and hurt economies and hurt people's chances to get ahold. >> rich karlgaard, we are almost out of time but this comes when we make advances in carbon energy in this country. >> yeah. shale oil and natural gas boon is terrific and will save our bacon in the end. if government,les unless government decides to kill it. >> you had to bring up bacon now. the food police are on us as well. we can win. coming up, the new "hunger games" movie breaking records at the box office. is

not a lot of people saw it, but it was sort of al gore as human. a role, just being himself with his kids. what is remarkable to me about that footage, and i've just seen the trailer, is how human romney is. that doesn't necessarily mean he's a better candidate or his policies weren't insane. i feel like it would have helped him in the general election. >> this was the debate going on for months within the campaign. there were people who wanted to do the let mitt be mitt thing. some of it was mitt romney's own discomfort with the press and showing himself to the press and being candid. there were so few genuine interactions with the press. there was very, very limited access. i think that all hurt him. i also think what hurt him, candidly, that bit about, you know, i can't believe you're going to lose. we have heard such conflicting things about what was actually happening in that campaign, whether their polling was wrong, whether their polling was right and the candidate wasn't being told. it was clear on election night, a lot of them did think he

before then, the vice president al gore mentioned the delegation. fidel castro was walking out of the hall, ga davi, many of the african leaders, some quite controversial to the leadership of the united states, were walking out, and then president-elect mandela, just moments he was having brief meetings. after he met with the vice president, there were a few reporters, and he shuffled over and very quietly and shook our hands and asked how we were doing. on this days when, that's who he was, this quiet dignity and grace. i want to show this. the vips were given this. and some of us hung around. >> you were working for the associated press. >> at the time. this is the new stamp they issued that day, commemorating the new president, but there was a new national anthem, a new flag, an there's a commemorative stamp. these are the parliament buildings, i believe they're called the union buildings, and in this courtyard is where the ceremony w ld. you ha a who's who o wld balcony in the union building, and these generals in the military white dress unifor

what does al gore weigh? >> more than that. >> we'll come back. what does larry think of obama care? >> are you trying to get me in trouble. >> well, we'll talk to her a little bit. >> you better wear a cup. >> that's comforting. >> my buddy "larry the cable guy." "madea christmas". >> comes out december 13. friday. this friday. >> so how did you like doing the movie? >> how did you get the -- >> did you even prepare? what's going on? >> i'll go see it if you're good. you said i would be in your next movie. >> i've got another movie coming out about male strippers. you're going to enjoy it. >> what's my role? >> a chunk and dale. >> you're going to be the chunk and dale. >> you'll be magic sean. >> oh, like magic mike? thanks a lot >> say it one time real sexy. go, looks like we've got a lot of lawbreakers in here. >> no, no, no. >> come on. >> i can't do it as good as you. >> all right, so the movie. >> the movie. >> tyler perry asked me to be in this movie. i play a great part, buddy. i play the father of the son. i got to be honest with you, it

fourteen cases of legal proceedings against various angelos and in one out of fourteen cases those al gore's actually won legal proceedings in court against the state and this is in a country that according to human rights watch has no independent judiciary. where the state prosecutors you just sat and yours how would that be possible well i wouldn't want to ruin you have some dope of the problem as the first to wall the prosecutor's office actually launched this massive campaign of the units of aggressive inspections and over one thousand organisations rick choked across the country and in some cases those inspections were just completely over the top where activists were all asked for their correspondence when the prosecutors wanted access to their computers and so on and so forth but then dozens of groups received warnings i direct orders to rich is not i want to corps and one depressed sittings for it in a sense that's one of the things that sort of makes me wary because they waited for the foreign agents lawyers that the law was adopted and then the minister of justice himself so he was

different picture the nice thing about this teleport it was designed to take the excess of blood so that al gore be is the president of c. which stands for strategically armored employ to fight environments affirm the designs custom sometimes hidden protection for the rich yeah unfortunately a street urchins can't afford anything more than a watchdog and an alarm system for making us feel inadequate about not having our own escape pads but it's not just helicopters that wealth hoarders buy to combat their neuroses and absurd delusions it's ballistic beds doors and windows including hidden machine gun walls. you've got a device here this is terrifying these are fifteen shotgun shells and you melt this into the wall or into the ceiling or where either when you fire this off could anybody survive underneath there's not a chance because one gun just isn't enough to fend off a ninety nine percent new name military great machine gun no walls that won't. that intruder a chance at survival you know it's fitting that these people are living like drug kingpins master criminals and political all of dark su

. >> but some blindness to the fact you mention al gore i was surprised to see build the monster homes while preaching? >> the hypocrisy is monumental the 19,000 square foot mansion in tennessee, a group could get a hold of his utilities was 20 times of the average american also mention at mont to cboe near zero pres house. hn: are any of those environmental activist not hypocrites? to some live the lif? >> ed begley, jr., a darrell hill and that, they actually live a lifestyle consistent with what they preach but that is rare. the vast majority of celebrities take opulence to the highest level. john: ptt said turn your lights out but also he has bi houses. reasono be combined his video. >> i pledge to turn the lights off i would leave them on but i will turn them off. >> is the unaware of the hypocrisy? >> i just think he goes out on tour and has a carbon footprint of a third-world nation with the idea that that will make a difference even if you believe in the theory of man caused global warming it seems ludicrous. john: keystone pipeline some actors made a short fi that makes it see

. >> but some blindness to the fact you mention al gore i was surprised to see build the monster homeshile preaching? >> the hypocrisy is monumental the 19,000 square foot mansion in tennessee, a group could get a hold of his utilities was 20 times of the average american also mention at mont to cboe near zero pres house. john: are any of those environmental activist not hypocrites? to some live the life? >> ed begley, jr., a darrell hill and that, they actually live a lifestyle consistent with what they preach but that is rare. the vast majority of celebrities take opulence to the highest level. john: ptt said turn your lights out but also he has big houses. reason to be combined his video. >> i pledge to turn the lights off i would leave them on but i will turn them off. >> is the unaware of the hypocrisy? >> i just think he goes out on tour and has a carbon footprint of a third-world nation with the idea that that will make a difference even if you believe in the theory of man caused global warming it seems ludicrous. john: keystone pipeline some actors made a short film that makes

and this is a note to conservatism or is an overdose of the actual word of alan to al loyalty to al gore you guys don't know where you take sort of ask questions about people's loyalties but i think the reality is if you have to look at individual proposals you have to look at whether they're good proposals whether they come from alec or ellis or being here to form log in to your heritage board or anybody it's an honor off a group ok first of all and i go and see if you're a p r o p h e t you can ok more of today's long low rumble after the break. wealthy british style. sometimes. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy when mike stronger the no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to conjure reports. for the new a little more than a lot of these policies i think you. a pleasure to have you with us here on our team today i'm rory sushi. rolls in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want. well go back there's a nice long liberal with a cameron sword and andrew kloster let's get back to it at a press conference today speaker of

that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy correct al gore's. role. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and across the semi-colon we've been hijacked by handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers one so that's my job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identify the. rational debate real discussion critical issues facing. yeah but still ready to join the movement then walk on the beach. got a cold for you. it's pretty tough. stay with substory. it's just as good looking but we're not done stead of working for the people most missions the beach work for a job right runs deep sleep. the . sleep. sleep. sleep. you know a hopeless romantic one of my favorite movies has always been sleepless in seattle but sadly recent events have led me to believe that it might be time for a name change i'm thinking be pinned on seattle because they recently residents began to notice odd lo

vice president al gore, the democratic alliance leader, and chris williams.s probablyndela the preeminent global leader for his life of courage and commitment, and inspires me. >> nelson mandela is our george washington. he has a legacy internationally, and his legacy is primarily ,econciliation, redress constitutionalism, and the rule of law, open market economies, diversity, and non-racialism. >> i am extremely sad. it is tragic news. just remind it what an extraordinary and inspiring man nelson mandela was. my thoughts are with him and his family. >> i want to introduce you now to an ambassador who has dealt with nelson mandela in the past, the first woman u.s. ambassador to south africa, and the senior director for african affairs at the national security council, currently a distinct professor at carnegie mellon university and also the director of the carnegie center for international policy and innovation. ambassador, thank you so much for joining us. tell us about meeting nelson mandela in person and what it was like. >> i first met nelson mandela in 2

i want to thank al gore for giving me mr. sanctions leon ferth and getting him to the country and for being really tough the pay on whom i am grateful for, no longer with us, is true. not all the military felt the way they did, and after we got the peace agreement to send the peace keeping force in, it was al gore that got everybody in the room to remind them we were all on the same team, and we better begin to act accordingly. that's what a vice president is for, to be the bad cop. when he had to be, he was great at it. i want to thank a lot of other people whom i'll miss along the way, who were no longer here. i'd like to make one general point. one of the things that i trieded to emphasize when i wrote my memoirs is that when you're president, everything happens at once. we finished the bosnia peace accord in november of 1995 in the middle of the two government shut downs. after one and before the next one, quite appropriate for today, don't you think? [laughter] 1995 was a big year. we restoredded the democratically elect

did not create the internet, this administration and -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> that is right, al gore did. we'll tell you what that is all about. >>> and britney spears exercises her right to bear arms but fans might not get to see her with her pistols. more ahead. >>> breaking news from the fox news desk. we'll get right back to the five in a moment, but the news conference from the sheriff in arapahoe county has ended with new information about the school shooting. a student went into the school, arapahoe high school in centennial, colorado, at half past noon, saw other students, was carrying a shotgun out in the open and said where is a specific teacher whose name they are not yet giving, name or sex. he began -- the yung man began looking for this teach -- the new england man began looking for this teacher and he confronted other students and he shot one student that is slised in critical condition at an area hospital. there is a question about the way the other student was injured. police say that other student was shot but expected to be released shortly. who is this teacher? we

what does al gore weigh? >> more than that. >> we'll come back. what does larry think of obama care? >> are you trying to get me in trouble. >>> you need to leave her out there. she's grown. she wants to come in the house she knows how. leave her alone. >> we'll talk to her a little bit. >> go on. >> okay. you better, here i come. >> that is comforting >> starring in "madea christmas". >> how do you like doing the movie? >> how did you get the 19th? do you work here anymore? what the hell is going on? >> i don't know the date. you're good in movies you said you're going to pet putt me in the next movie. >> i when i do another movie, i will, i was doing tyler's. i have another movie about male strippers you're going to enjoy it. >> what is my role? >> you're a chunkendale. >> you'd be magic sean. >> do you think -- >> yeah. magic sean. just say it realtime, real sexy go, um, looks like we've got a lot of law breakers in here. >> no. no. i can't do it. >> all right. so the movie? >> movie. >> tyler perry asked me to be in this muchy. i play the fath

>> five years ago this month al gore said within five years the northern pole ice caps would be gone. they are up there celebrating. they are stunned to be surrounded by ice. they called it unusually thick ice because they are unusually thick people who haven't been paying attention to the science on global warming for 18 years and still want to roast like a chest on an open fire. >> with all the technology didn't we have a sense this could happen? what do you make of the story, oboni? we have incredible cold spells in the united states. we have changed it to climate change. it's not so much global warming. does this present a problem for the global warming folks? >> well, yeah. we have to be open when we talk about the dialogue of climate change. i prefer that terminology myself. these climate change researchers, being stuck in this -- they didn't anticipate tha this climate. it's an ironic situation. >> all i can say is -- well with, we are out of time. we weren't able to get to the plus-sized barbie segment. i want the plus-sized ken with the beer with gut. once the plus-sized ken

with this data, we can say let's use al gore rhythms to make decisions. you can drive collaboration patterns that we want to have. >> these ago gore rhythms are being used. xerox uses them for possible employees. >> derocks does do interviews, but many hiring managers have found the scores to be so successful in predicting success that they see it as a form at today. they got a color code red, yellow, green, based on an on line test that prospective candidates have taken to look at cognitive ability, personality and specific skills, and the score has proven to be very predictive of performance. i think that that is a danger. i think if you take these things too often, that that's not such a good thing, because, you know, scores are fallible just as people are. i think most companies that i've talked to are really using both. i should note, including xerox. >> you talked about how you were creeped out about this, but looked into it and found all this workplace technology could ever a larger impact on the economy than wall street trading and the once that f

it's where al gore and global warming hysterics live. it's not about a tiny blip in temperature over a century. it's that the debate has been stained with lies, panic and fear. the hysterics cried wolf so loudly that the wolf croaked. but the facts are finally winning. global temperatures are flat-lining. that's not to say we shouldn't care. a gradual rise in temperatures will save lives. and the use of coal which hysterics hate would save millions of lives in third-world countries who burn far deadlier stuff. so it's not this santa we need to worry about. it's the santa in the white house. fresh from trashing one-sixth of the economy, he's now eyeing climate change. do you think he's actually read the science? i doubt it. like greenpeace's santa, he's being kept in the dark. dana, what about the children? what about the children? >> forget the children, i was terrified. >> were you really? i saw you went under the desk. >> i got a little nervous. first of all, i didn't know that he was santa -- i mean, that he was british. that is an in

we often don't think of giving people experiences like anything al gore movie.be the things that make people happy. and we can get to go with them, get a free trip out of it ourselves. adam: this concept that it has to be unique. i really want to give something so special that no one else will get for you. why is that ms? >> i compare this to if you asked the waitress for a hamburger and she came back and said, now you asked before hamburger, but i think you really want sushi. you would say poor service, and yet we do it all the time with gifts. you say, no, i'm goong to get you something else like 17th ce gift. i get what you are saying. thank you very much. harvard business school associate. i think that is a myth about gift-giving. happy holidays. >> you, too. adam: hollywood had its share of hits and flops at the box office. it is not over just yet. we have movies this holiday season. at the end of the day it is all about "money." ♪ [ male annocer ] e new new york is open. open to innovation. open to ambition. open to boldids. that's why n york haa new plan

that's how al gore lost the election. he wouldn't brag on the record.e said that might offend somebody. tell me why democrats don't know how to brag. >> there's something in that, chris. there's something in this idea that the democrats represent, you know, the bottom half of americans. about the bottom 85%. >> if you're right and the middle class has done a little better under this, why doesn't he say so? >> i think he does sometimes. >> jonathan, explain that to me. a friend of mine says if you don't enjoy the good times then you don't know the bad times. look at what's working well. there's no sense in just you can't repeal -- or unpeel the banana. you can't keep going back how we had the bad rollout and bad this. hand wringing is a waste of time. >> you raise a good point about why the president doesn't brag about his economic record from, you know, economic performance to -- >> from the crap hole it was in in the spring of 2009. >> right. and you raise a good point that maybe it's because the bedrock of the democratic party is worried about income

. >> it's al gore all over again.such a bubbling issue. >> i don't think either party has quite mastered how to govern this way. the democratic party is closer to figuring it out. that's what the democratic party is all about. having the government help people and growing from the middle out. they believe we should grow from the top down. if the healthy make more money they will spend it and that will lift it up. i don't think it worked. most people will say it hasn't worked. >> to back up steve, politically that message worked. the president took this fact and drove it home and mitt romney said 47% and it cemented the argument that the president was trying to make. as a fixer -- >> i think obama care hurt his ability to govern on this topic. to your point, you can't argue with the statistics. the facts are the facts and there is a growing inequality in this country. republicans need to come up with better solutions. new solutions. we still fall into the trap of talking about the flat tax and other economic theories 3

listen, i long for the olden days when a drone was al gore going on and on about climate change but i'mwe take care of getting these drones over our consulates in crazy countries, billy? why do we have that over the benghazi thing, for god's sake? why do i need four pack suspect suppositories. you are damn right i'm smitten. >> do you know why this is not going to work? [ laughter ] >> the first time the drone lands on a little kid there is going to be a 10-million-dollar lawsuit. >> the first time an idiot tries to return something by drone. >> it blows up. >> gets their groin caught in the whip around thing. >> going to get it mixed up drone intended for abdullah, it's going to go into illinois. >> to bring it full circle that's why i don't trust people. >> not going to happen on the drone. but the guy is a genius. >> let me do my charlie impression. hey, jeff, what the hell is behind this door? this is a drone. pow. >> there you go. >> dennis miller, everybody. is he loose on the streets of new york. [ laughter ] >> we have two bolder fresher shows to tell you about. >> merry christm

you know, al gore talks about them. you see the ceo palling around with tom freidman at davos.ere's a certain whiff of celebrity. >> you're very skeptical. i can see this, obviously. >> i'm skeptical. i'm hopeful, but i'm skeptical, 'cause people have tried fuel cells for-- since the 1830s. and they're great ideas, right? you know, just producing energy at an instant. but they're not easy. they're like the divas of industrial equipment. you have to put platinum inside there. you've got to put zirconium. the little plates inside have to work not just for an hour or a day, but they have to work for 30 years non-stop, and then the box has to be cheap to make. >> one thing stoking his skepticism: bloom energy's k.r. sridhar has been hyper secretive-- no signs on his building, a cryptic website, and no public progress reports. given the stealthiness, we were surprised when k.r. showed us for the very first time how he makes the secret sauce of his fuel cell on the cheap. actually, i feel like i'm on a cooking show. you're martha stewart. >> absolutely. so let's take that cooking ana

now, somebody like al gore who makes a lot of money on it and whips around in a private jet and has allonditioning and huge mansions everybody knows is he a hypocrite. everybody knows that's wrong. a guy like harrison ford, i don't know him. if he wants to help the rain forest and he likes to putter around in a little plane, i don't have a beef with him. now do you feel these people leonardo decaprio and all the other people you have on your special did anybody listen to them? anybody over the age of 25 listen to them? >> probably not. but, look, on fracking, which has been one of the best things for the environment in america, lady gaga has 30 million twitter followers. people listen to her. >> she doesn't even know what fracking is. she thinks it's a clothing store. >> fracking is banned in the state because of people like her getting their supporters. >> governor cuomo a democrat doesn't want to go up against a liberal environmentalists? >> and the liberals following the celebrities. >> the celebrities, i don't think the celebrities set the agenda. they are just like lemmings. >> the