those responsible, finding out why the victims were targeted. patsy, a little bit of a young al jazeera adel kirsten is the director of gun free south africa. she says there's been a year on year increase in gun related violence across the country. when south africa brought in a new gun, lewis in 2000, we saw a 50 percent reduction in gun bass in this country. and over the last 10 years, because of this kind of proliferation of balance coming into our society, into legal hams. are we seeing a year on here increase in gun homicides? and i guess the 2 distinguishing features, it is usually young black men, between the age of $15.29. and it's young men, often living in metropolitan areas, but under resourced areas, are often without a job and limited education. that is your typical kind of profile of your gun a victim. so for example, in our homicide data, most of the 23 people shot and killed daily in this country. 20 of them are young men. it's important to add that the perpetrators are also young men in that age group. in south africa, usually going up to sort of maybe 5 late thirties. but that's wh