and, you know,al po cheen no said to me when i was doing injustice for all >> 35 years ago? >> is that it? >> 35 years ago. >> good night. i need to rest [laughter]. >> wow. i remember i was going out to do a show called the ropers. >> right. >> and i was going to get the great $6,000. and i talked to him and i -- >> 6,000 a week >> 6,000 a week, yeah. we were talking about money, and he said, how many steaks can you eat? that's a great, great thing >> well, you try to eat $6,000 a week worth of steaks >> it's a great piece of advice. i do like that. and, of course, arrested development, i like that side of the fence. and, you know, this is just the beginning. hold on. but the whole idea of just, you know, a family gathered around the show turning on a television at a certain point in time >> on an appointed channel is prehistoric >> long gone. >> you grew up in san francisco >> i did >> parents were not in the business, in entertainment >> barney and eileen tambor >> right. what got you -- you went to school out there >> i got a little theater in san francisco state college