but he was an al qaeda associate. and he was the director of al qaeda's two training camps in afghanistan. so, as such, even if he wasn't the number three in al qaeda, he was a pretty important target for us. >> but you're operating at the time thinking, we've got the number three. >> oh, yeah. >> you must have been stoked? >> oh, absolutely. in fact, a lot of us felt it was just too good to be true, that, you know, we've hit this one guy, we've hit this one guy, we're not going to catch the number three in al qaeda just by going out and looking for him. >> but you do catch him. >> well, we did catch him. >> so now you've got abu zubaydah. what happens next? >> well, he was shot and severely wounded in this raid. he was shot by a pakistani policeman in the thigh, the groin, and the stomach by an ak-47 and we didn't think he was going to leave. we got him medical treatment that night. once he was stabilized, we flew him to a military hospital nearby. and he was there several days, spent most of it in a coma. we had a c

harboring al qaeda financing al qaeda.ked about that but it doesn't get covered. >> the administration in several designations of senior terrorists working for al qaeda as well as terrorists and ministries that are part of the government of iran have previously identified this, the president and the senior administration officials haven't made much of the designations. it is clear that iran and al qaeda had a relationship a secret agreement by which al qaeda officials could transit through iran and train through iran. there was some times at which al qaeda personnel were treated as if they were in loose form of house arrest. their restriction of movement wasn't very significant and the newest batch of documents that was just out this week as tom reported you have al qaeda officials, senior al qaeda officials saying we can go to iran if we want to. we can train six to eight brothers to plot attacks on the west from iran. >> take a listen to the former head of the defense intelligence agency lieutenant general mike flynn. >>

compare the most violent terrorist os in 2013 to those in 2014, the level of violence from isil, al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula, al-shabaab, al-nusra have increased according to preliminary data. iraq afghanistan, yemen, somalia and libya have all experienced increases in terrorist violence in our preliminary data from 2014. pakistan is the only sort of affected nation which has seen a decrease out of the countries where al-qaeda and its associated movement are active. so we've seen a year-on-year increase over the last 12 months and over the 12 months before that and the 12 minute toes before -- months before that. so the trend line is continuing to rise. a partial explanation is a lot of the strategy now focuses on trying to build capabilities of partner nations, and that's a slow process, so things may get worse before they get better. that's an op por due nistic read of the scenario. a pessimistic read is these organizations have enjoy ared greater safe haven in a post-arab spring world and have seized on the less stable governments and are exploiting that safe haven. >> okay. so d

and al qaeda affiliate. sek taern tensions remain high isil and aligned groups foster and exploit those tensions. isil veterans travel to new fronts outside iraq and syria bringing escalation strategy and sectarianism with them. worst case scenario, this contagion effect runs risk of sectarian civil war in the muslim world, regaiting west to observer unable to take meaningful action for itself or others. in addition, every new isil front opens a new set of grievance narratives and mobilization pathways seek to go radicalize and recruit foreign fighters. three, they have incentives foray tax against the west. for isil attacks against the west can be used as form of deterrents, making foreign countries think twice or pay the price for large scale military interventions in iraq and syria. we cannot be fooled into thinking al qaeda's focus on the caliphate presents them from actively seeking capability to conduct attacks against the home land. for al qaeda and associated movement, the antagonistic rise to promin

the cia is desperate to find al qaeda leaders like al awlaki. and that's exactly what the cia needs. >> i had these different names. i had different personalities. i was mort storm, murad storm, abu osama, abu mujahid, polar bear, it's some kind of schizophrenic lifestyle. >> he's made surprising connections with leaders. according to counterterrorism expert magnus ranstorp. >> he had been to the many place, he had met all the right people. >> reporter: he's almost a forrest gump of radical islamism. >> i don't think there's many people like him that have all those different dimensions. he was the real deal. >> reporter: the real deal. a larger than life personality who reveals his journey in this book "agent storm: my life inside al qaeda and the cia" co-authored by paul cruickshank and tim lister, both cnn contributors. coming up, how storm goes from boxer to holy warrior. >> i was invited by osama bin laden to join up with him in the training camp in afghanistan. mhere's our new trainer! ensure active heart health. crowd: yayyyy! heart: i'm g

>> al-qaeda and isis and the others. they want to harm america and what is al-qaeda leadership wanted to do is a massive other 9/11 operation and crumbled the psychological will support to government. isanything. and all of the above mentioned things and they are trying hard. >> walid it is nice to have you on the program. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we have been covering the c-pac event that is close to washington d.c. where conservatives are screening potential gop candidates for 2016. and there is a similar event in florida hosted by the anti- tax club for growth. a lot of the same presidential hopefuls. former florida bush spoke last night. >> we have a look at palm beach florida. >> greg good afternoon. why is this group important. >> the conservative growth dropped 20 million on the election and half aimed at republican candidates who did not share their ideology. >> this is a good group to have on your side. jeb bush appeared sxheer one of six contenders. and tried to get past the moderate and republican

isis has been able to eclipse al qaeda primarily because they rule the state. they are not hiding caves in the margins of the islamic world. they have a lot of fellows with jihad, some afghanistan, many against our forces and iraqi government forces in iraq and many in syria. they put all of these together. when you add those to the fact that you states has not been there in any force for several years. >> the terrorist army of isis is estimated to have more than 30,000 fighters from 70 countries. the way they achieve the goals is terrific. >> it imposes strict sharia such as amputations for stealing, crucifixions for apostasy, as we know beheadings. isis clearly refers to the two different passages in the koran that refer to the beheading of unbelievers on the battlefield. >> all indications show many if not all isis fighters have a fanatical belief in fighting to the death. >> they have in many ways, general dempsey said this a few weeks ago an apocalyptic viewpoint. isis clearly is talking about end of time battles, armageddon type battles. >> so isis is sti

campaign re-election when he was saying al qaeda is on the run. part of the problem we seem to face these days karl is that al qaeda as strong as ever or so it would seem. >> yeah. well and also he said just a couple weeks ago in the interview with the youtube woman glozell green who floats around in a bathtub of from the loops he said we responsibly ended two wars. i'm e i'm talking to people who are concerned about afghanistan. the afghans are deeply concerned about the end of the u.s. combat role, more importantly, write today about the diminished footprint of the united states. we used to have a number of military facilities to allow us immediately to project our air power and special rate operators. we're down to one base. vast swatches of longer under umbrella of military support for the afghan troops. they're worried that the united states will leave them in a lurch. they want a residual force like we kept in korea for six decades. we want a a residual force that will help sustain them in the fight. just as iraqis did. they warranted a stay

and we know we know that al-qaeda, so they al-qaeda command-and-control, al-qaeda senior leaders werein fact, dealing with the boko haram you know, any sort of cursory way when bin laden was still alive. so this is not some connection they just happened in boko haram just popped up. hopefully using general rodriguez, our commander of africom recently document we need a full sort of counterinsurgency effort. and again i think a seven or eight nations in africa that are trying to come to grips with dealing with boko haram now. they just postponed their elections. i mean, again this is a long-term problem and these groups are, in fact connected. >> thank you. i think my time is up, and perhaps dr. lynch can bring this up later. >> mr. coffman. >> thank you, mr. chairman. just a question about isis. i served in iraq in the marine corps into the house and five in ramadi in fallujah in 2006 and the western euphrates. and what i found in the sunni arab population is a clearly didn't like us. we upset the apple cart. they saw the government in baghdad as a shia dominated government, that carr

what kind of things was al qaeda doing or wanting to do in iran? >> gretchen, al qaeda apparently thought iran was a great place to train terrorists and leaking through the document that's were taken out of osama bin laden's house. you get a since that al qaeda didn't really think anybody was going to bug them once they set up shop in iran. in fact, one letter sent to osama bin laden lays out a plan for a top al qaeda operative to train six or eight terrorists in iran. and there's more from the documents. quote, his plan is stay around three months in iran to train the brothers there, then start moving them and distributing them in the world for their missions and specialties. and these documents are being seen publicly for the first time now, but they have been part of a terror trial here in the united states. so in theory, u.s. government officials could have seen these documents but throughout the entire proceedings the negotiations with iran overscaling back their nuclear program have continued. >> but i was just going to ask you, peter obvious

. >> unlike al qaeda they are focused on the near enemy.t is trying to create the largest caliphate it can particularly in arab middle east. it includes territory of syria and iraq. >> isis erased the border between the two countries. >> the islamic state bases the claim on two main things. the reading of the koran and hadiths the traditions go back to mohammed. >> they claim like alajji haddists they found the path of islam founder mohammed found the 11th state in the century. >> dr. bernard lewis is professor of eastern studies of princeton university. he's one of the world's foremost middle east scholars. >> they see islam as being invaded in part occupied by none muslims. >> they are led by self proclaimed leader 43-year-old abu bakr al-baghdadi. their goal to kill or drive out infidels in lands where islam reigned for centuries. >> the last caliphate was the ott monday was was established at the end of world war i. they think they are recreating that. in some ways they think their caliphate which is arab is more legitimate than the ott

even after serving time in a yemeni prison for his actions on behalf of al-awlaki and al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula, he recently announced his support for caliphate press to nearly 10,000 followers on twitter. he also tweeted this photo of himself with al-awlaki. isis has taken social media to a whole new level. >> isis uses all platforms, everything from facebook to twitter, to yelp, restaurants recommendations in syria. because they use all these different platforms, they get a loft access to the younger set. >> richard reynolds is a retired army officer who spent half of his 30 year career in the middle east investigating terrorists and their network of contacts. >> we see perhaps as many as 125 different languages being used by isis and isis accounts. >> people may not have homes or jobs or cars, but everyone's got a phone. >> right. isis has media centers. >> just seems to me that isis almost has a rapid response team. an event happens, they've got their message up. where as the old style al-qaeda can sometimes take weeks to respond. >> isis also hijacks big news events onlin

her brother was a top leader in al-qaeda in iraq, and al qaeda in iraq has since morphed into this group. so because of that background, it was a surprise but not inexplicable when isis decided they were going to elevate this woman in this prison. they were going to elevate her from obscurity just within the last couple weeks when they demanded her freedom in jordan in exchange for the life of two japanese hostages held by isis and a 26-year-old air force pilot shot down on his f-16 on christmas receive in 2014 and was held by isis ever since. there had been reports that jordan was willing to trade her, that failed suicide bomber, that iraqi woman in order to get their own buy lot back out of isis custody. nbc news says jordan would have traded her, but two other al qaeda prisoners they also had. three terrorists, all on death row, they were ready to trade all three of them to isis in exchange for isis returning that air force pilot. but then after last week isis uploaded a video of the death of the first japanese hostage, and then they uploaded another video of the second japanese hosta

the houthi are natural enemies of quealt, al qaeda houthi being shia backed and al qaeda being a sunni organization pnl sunni being the saudi ruling religion and iraq is kind of split. it's a very interesting dynamic simply because they are enemies doesn't mean they won't work together. a dynamic we might see is the houthi may even ally going after a common enemy the government of saudi arabia. i'm not sure anyone understands what's going to come next. >> you talk about the regional risks. saudi arabia next door. >> right. >> could this destabilize not only saudi arabia but the region? >> absolutely. that's what's been happening. yemen john, yemen has not been a stable place. what the danger is if the houthi cannot gain control of the government in a real and substantial way we could see fractionalization which results in a basically somalia type outcomes with no governance. that is the worst case scenario. clearly you have elements at odds. you are going to see even i.s.i.s. now intelligence officers here in d.c. are telling me that i.s.i.s. is now looking at a way it can insinuate it

by doing it -- it's true isis would take hostages no matter and so might al qaeda. thing is money increases the value to them. so they want them more and they become dependent on it. it's not just western hostages. they are taking iraqis and syrians and al qaeda is taking pakistanis hostage and they have been doing this for years. it might be just 10 or 20 or $30,000 but it's how they survive. it's like a drug dealer. if you keep buying the drugs that's how they stay in business and it drives up the price. any of us put into that situation individually we would want to do anything. but the trouble is from a big picture perspective it makes it more likely. i spent a lot of time in iraq and afghanistan during a time when other groups like al qaeda in iraq and core al qaeda were charging ransoms and my feeling was, listen i would want to get out anyway possible but i was also angry at the countries that paid the ransoms because i felt it made it more likely i would be taken. americans are already targets but you have more of a target when you have a $10 million price t

al qaeda threatened him. al shabab threatened him, the cartoon put out in 2007 depicting mohammed as a dog, he's been on a hit list for al qaeda and isis. no clear if they were inspired by al qaeda or isis or people connected to the groups not clear if perhaps, they were people who travelled to syria, for example, about a hundred danish radicals traveled to fight in syria and some returned to denmark. >> colonel reese, will this just continue and continue? see incidents play out over and over again as these jihadists who have access to major fire power in areas where there's not a lot of protection. in this case this lars vilks had protection. are we just seeing more episodes in the days weeks, and months to come? >> yeah jim, unfortunately, it is, it will continue and we'll see other attacks throughout europe and i think, you know as folks back here in homeland security they anticipate attacks back here in the united states. it's something to watch for, and it's something to figure out especially countering

being -- >> al qaeda. >> al qaeda. but the core of this element, of this segment of the islamic religion, is the ideology. and that's the core. and that's what you have to defeat. the military component, the military phenomenon if you will, is actually not the real challenge that we have. it's more of a social, cultural psychological phenomenon. and it has spread, you know, in terms of what we're facing, it's doubled in size and scale and geographic reach. and many of these individuals, particularly at the leader level, have spent time with each other in different places in that -- in this part of the world. so we have to recognize that we're not dealing with something where like the strategy that we had at the beginning of this thing, post 9-11, where kill the top three or capture them, and we'll all go home. that strategy failed. and it was -- that was a strategy -- and we recognized that. i think halfway through -- >> we captured a lot of them. >> we captured leaders and killed a lot of these individuals. but what -

connection between iran and al qaeda. new documents showing the terror group using tehran as a safe haven as the white house continues to push for a nuclear deal with the rogue nation. martha: i'm martha maccallum. it comes down to the raid on usama bin laden's come pound when the administration boasted it found a treasure trove in that compound. but what happened to all that stuff? apparently only 10% of it was ever investigated but it shows a connection between iran and core al qaeda which is an interesting connection. bill: despite that the obama administration continues negotiations for a nuclear deal. ing what where we learning about this report, peter? >> reporter: it's not like they were found on a terrorist twitter feed or terrorist investigation. they were inside usama bin laden's house and it connects him to iran in a way we have not seen before. it features details about iran being a safe haven. it lays out the plans of a core al qaeda leader to travel to iran. sheikh yunis is ready to travel to iran. the white

some of whom maintained their own al-qaeda ties. mohamed also had a direct association with a cousin and al a former brother-in-law who was a prominent member of al-qaeda. late 1999 the mohamed moved to montreal. got involved with the large mosk there. and another person who attended that mosk in algerian immigrant and al-qaeda member. was arrested when at rival for plotting to bomb the los angeles airport on new year's day. investigating a millennium plot. requested by can an ann authorities and terrorist connections and in earlier 2000 he decided to return and was detained twice. on the way back senegal and once he got back to moratania. the question by fbi agents and the investigators could not find anything linking him to the millennium plot and he was released but then, within days of the 9/11 attacks he was detained for two weeks and again questioned by the fbi but again released. then in november 2001, several months after 9/11 he was summoned by a police and taken in a cia plane to a prison in amman jordan he was interrogate

attacked by al qaeda fighters on two army bases in chebwa province. jamal al shayal has more. >> more warnings from u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon. what is the eunlts willing united nations willing to do, to solve a more and more dangerous situation some more and more unstable state, as every day that goes by. the political parties that have been involved in these negotiations have become more and more pessimistic with regard to the u.n.'s role, particularly its envoy in terms of these negotiations the houthis the shia militia that have conducted this coup have become more and more powerful as long as these negotiations continue. certainly there must be another strategy in order to ensure that this coup is reversed and that legitimacy is restored. on the security front: more violence across the country. this time on thursday there was an attack on what was food to be al qaeda militants in an army base on chebwa province. army base is close proximity to the oil production center of yemen. also significant is that the al qaeda militants who had take

they don't contact the al qaeda member. they don't book a ticket to syria.talk to family or friends about radicalization. in a country of 330 million people how do you find somebody like that? >> how do you keep track or discover somebody like that somebody just inspired by groups like isis but hasn't actually reached out, doesn't have a social media profile about it. how do you even begin to try to track that? >> not well. there's a couple of things you can do. the first is what pamela mentioned. hope that family or friends will tip you off. we had circumstances where that happened. most of what i witnessed in cases we closed is that the family didn't know. this is not similar for a 15-year-old drug user. if the kid is getting good grades how are you going to know? the kids radicalized i witnessed, a lot of families didn't know and not even until the kid traveled overseas on a ticket that acquired without the parental consent. so the family might be able to help. if you don't get the help you can look at triggers things like a kid who might be on a web site

that's not al qaeda anymore. on that front, juliette if you could, you were formerly with the homeland security. the united states the state department, has talked about even using social media to try to fight their own propaganda war against all of these images but can the u.s. do that successfully and how important is it that we do so that we prevent these lone wolf attacks, these home grown terror people that do not need to cross over the ocean to go be trained physically by isis? >> i think we have to view the strategy as both offense so you want to get messages out. you want to stop people from recruitment. you want to get other people out, maybe not u.s. citizens or the u.s. government but other validating peace and calm in the middle east. then it's clearly going to be some defense which is from the homeland perspective, from the protection of the troops perspective. we are going to have to anticipate that given the number of people who are radicalized someone is going to get through. as we saw in paris an

this is al qaeda -- isis is al qaeda on steroid.this is what excites them. >> if the isis claim that a jordanian air strike has just killed the u.s. hostage, kayla mueller, if that's all propaganda isn't that evidence of what i'm saying that even isis now realizes that they overplayed their demented hand by videotaping the way in which they killed that jordanian pilot? and even isis doesn't want people now to see it because they're losing ground? >> this is one way of seeing it. i look at the data. how many foreign fighters are going on monthly basis to help isis. how many people watched that video? >> 7 million plus on fox alone. >> on fox alone. there's at least as much worldwide watching that video. if 1% of these people are sympathetic towards isis or somebody that is sitting in europe and feel marginalized or feel ing excluded from society and has a borderline identity crisis and this is appealing to him, then what did we do? we're help pushing isis' agenda. we need to stop this propaganda. imagine if nazis are putting propagan

that's going to make it difficult to go after al qaeda. and of course al qaeda is taking advantage of all this turmoil in yemen and its priority still is to hit the united states planes. >> i harken back to the most famous closure, emergency closure, hostages being taken obviously in iran. and that has been decades. so i asked you that question only because for iran, it sure didn't seem to bother them in the least that they didn't have an american presence there, they thrived without it. they've maintained that kind of stranglehold over their people without it. that's why i wonder in these four circumstances that jim showed us, are these going to be extraordinarily long closures, upwards of 40 years? >> i don't think so. i don't think there's a parallel with the iran situation when it comes to the houthis. the leadership of the houthis, despite all these anti-american slogan the group has, are relatively pragmatic. they've been reaching out to the americans. they want to find common cause with the americans to operate against al qaeda. it'

. >> they peeled guys from al qaeda.s part of the ben laden, zawahiri network, they are the vanguard jihadi organization managed to do what al qaeda never could. >> reporter: one or topic, on isis' most recent video, showing the be heading of christians from a beach in tripoli, an american accent or north american accent heard of that tape by one of the attackers. we've spoken to language experts who say i may not be a native speaker but somebody who studied in the states or had a teacher in the u.s. you'll remember jihadi john the english-sounding attacker that appeared in other video, we know british authorities were able to get an absolute identity of him, not just his nation of origin, but they know who he s. if they could do so with this it would certainly move forward with the investigation. >> jim sciutto, thanks so much. >>> let's talk to colonel peter monsieur the former aide to general petraeus. colonel, thanks for joining me. >> morning, carol. >> i want to get this question out of the way first. from a milita

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al-qaeda, but it was low. >> at the time we didn't see al qaeda as a threat. we kept a watch on the brief. >> the cables reveal how spy agencies pull their knowledge. what emerged are remarkable unverifiable claims. a russian cable warns of a lab in eastern algeria to development biological weapons. the pneumonic plague scaped leading to the death -- escaped, leading to the death of 40 the base was abandoned. mossad sent warnings raising warnings of attacks, like those at u.s. embassy in 1998. this cable makes reference to a number of planned attacks between 2007 and 2012 none of which took place. south africa's former minister of intelligence accuses some countries of playing politics with the spy agencies. >> i believe it's a hall of mirrors in relation to this kind of thick, and this is where one needs a very cool head and a well-balanced view. >> the spy cable suggesting governments don't just communicate genuine threats but further their own policies by exploiting every country's fear of attack. >> russia's president vladimir putin is threatening to cut s

al qaeda keeps amazing records of what it does.militant organizations do, and even things like a phone list can provide huge intelligence if you're trying to track people down. i think it's also important to note thrurp other factors at play. a new afghan president was more open to working with the u.s. and the afghan army had a really rough time last year and the americans really want to keep helping them. one of the bigger things they have been able to do to help is go after the mid-level managers of the insurgency. >> stewart: something, matthew, find so fascinating about this story, almost the gee whiz of it, is the computer has been so useful given all the military might and all the power we have and all the intelligence, that one piece of equipment has proven to be so valuable. >>un one of the problems they've always had in fighting the taliban-- and al qaeda to a degree-- is getting people inside. the taliban's leadership is a group of villagers who all grew up together. getting people on the inside to get information, very

al qaeda, or isis. part of the reason for that is because unlike in, say world war ii, unless you are -- avoiding civilian casualties was something that was important but was not the priority. unless you're willing to go in and do whatever you need to do to take a military targets, you realize that civilians will die that was the case. a lot of them did. if you're not willing to do that, as awful as that is, and do that on a huge scale as necessary, until the other side is saying, we do not want to do this anymore, we are done. then, it will go on. it will go on forever. we did not worry about if we had more people in germany and japan wanting to attack us. host: i think we got your point. guest: i like john's point because it goes back to a live -- a discussion we had been having since 9/11. ok, you can conduct military operations with precision sometimes, we have not seen the president being shy about using drones and other technologies, that means you can kill the enemy. in more times, there are coll

will continue to fight against al-qaeda in afghanistan's tribal regions and against al-qaeda-linked groupsyemen and somalia. the announcement came at a white house summit. obama also promised to restrain their movement into iraq and syria. >> obviously there is a complicated history between the middle east the west and none of us i think, should be immune from criticism in terms of specific policies but the notion that the west is at war with islam is an ugly lie. and all of us regardless of our faith, have a responsibility to reject it. >> our correspondent rosiland jordan is standing by in washington. rosiland this is the second time president obama is addressing this three-day summit. what was his main message today? >> reporter: it was that we all have to step up to the plate, and we all have to engage our local communities, our members of civil society in order to deal with the scourge that is represented by al-qaeda isil boko haram, by aqap by any number of groups that have been launching these deadly attacks on people both in the middle east and in countries around the world. the pr

and then, of course, you got al-qaeda took over this military base. libya, those two states right now, and we should look at ourselves. those two states right now are failing or failed states or would become that way because who will recognize human? will be us or is it going to be iran? iran fully backs that separatist movement that just took over yemen and that was a country that we were trying to defeat this threat this sunni version of radical islam. so this is a really, that's the essence of the problem and we have to look at how do we want to act when someone sits at the table of the united states of america, they better be sitting there fully recognized in international law and at least having a recognition of international accepted norms and behaviors. if they don't we are being hypocritical. >> and i wonder if we have the will to act on that and to really deliver some consequences, withdrawing military aid isolating those countries, rethinking our relationships. in the past we have proven unable to do that or unwilling for public important ta

what we've actually done is spread al qaeda, aqap. its supporters have grown its territory has grown. they also did see the vacuum that was created by the 2011 revolution and used that to expand their territory. what we should be doing is not so much an instead of but an in addition to. and this goes back to what i was saying. our ct strategy in yemen has been too narrow and too short focused. as fred noted, you know, you end up training what you think is a ct unit and you've really just sort of trained a militia. we didn't work on the yemeni government on what you do after 2013 when he came in, he was very focused on aqap. aqap was primarily -- and in the south where he's from, and the aqap presence and problem became much more personal. even though the military on the ground was effective and the drones were being used. where we failed is going in afterwards and rebuilding. and so you know it's one thing to take out tiny village and scatter the aqap people but if you don't go back in and provide the homes and services you haven't mo

who was a senior al qaeda member how problematic with dead before him?> that is a very interesting situation and is a distant cousin of mohamedou in related to his ex-wife supposedly he was with osama been lauded as a spiritual leader but he left in 2001 with the nine of seven reports it actually says he disapproved of the 9/11 bombings because they were a violation of the acheron and we now know he left and went to iran where he was under house arrest for many years he showed up back in mauritania in jail and was released after after he was interrogated by a the americans so all throughout those years he battled the government they said because mohamedou was connected to his cousin now he is out and a free man but mohamedou is still there. we don't know what they discussed from what they will turn over to us. >> what is the basis to continue to hold him with these allegations to be discredited? this seems the basis of a long ago this association that he disavowed but i believe around 2006 or 2007 that the government thought what will we do and the top m

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some of whom maintained their own al qaeda ties. mohamedou also had a direct association with a cousin and a former brother-in-law who was a prominent member of al qaeda. in late 1999, mohamedou moved to montreal and got involved with a large mosque there. another person who attended that mosque an algerian immigrant and al qaeda member awe amid was arrested shortly after mohamedou's arrival for plotting to bomb the los angeles airport on new year's day. investigating the millennium plot, mow ham few was questioned by canadian authorities about possible terrorist connections. then in 2000 he returned to mauritania and was detained twice on the way back in senegal, and once he got back to mauritania questioned by fbi agents, but the investigators couldn't find anything linking him to the millennium plot, and he was released. but then within days of the 9/11 takes, he was detained for a two weeks and again questioned by the fbi gut -- but released. then in november 2001 he was summoned by mauritanian police and taken in a cia plane to

being the father of isis, but there is a great rivalry now between isis and al qaeda, so do we know isis wanted al rishawi and possibly the other prisoner who was hanged karbouli? >> the isis of today, if you talk to any analyst, it is the original vision of abu musab al zarquawi of jihad set up and this is the brutality and the caliphate that he had envisioned would take place, and we have seen it picked up by isis implementing the vision of zarquawi and so there are close ties and links e between the two organizations, al qaeda in iraq and isis. and these, there have been speculation why sajida al rishawi and why these names circulating? these two have ties to abu musab zarquawi who had been kill ed ined in a u.s. air strike in 2006 and sajida al rishawi's brothers were fighting alongside zarquawi in iraq and the other brothers were top aide ss, so it is unclear though, john, what impact if any this is going to have on isis or any reakction they are going to have to this. we do not know if the demand for the release of sajida al rishawi was even a genuine demand or if they really w

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we have to do with groups like isis, al qaeda. >> power is weakness. is a disease. >> a few years ago we got to know a community. that is the foundation, getting to know who we are, reaching out. >> our idea is to build a foundation of trust that could lead to talking about future events and other partnership initiatives. >> in essence, everyone needs to come together as we have in the past in dealing with other issues to confront this threat. >> the three areas of our focus have been prevention intervention, and interdiction. the intervention is an area where we need work. this is an area that if you look at the gang model of los angeles, the were on gangs didn't work. it did not work arresting our way to cannot arrest our way out of the problem. you cannot declare a war on this type of phenomena. it wasn't until we realized that intervention efforts, where you talked about youth development employment opportunities character development, diversion programs, this is an area that is just right for this phenomenon we are expanding today. >> to find ways

we didn't have it with al qaeda because we were defeating al qaeda.ever since basically we knew al qaeda was in existence prior to 9/11, but it wasn't really a big deal at that point. we had had some terrorist attacks in people's minds but we didn't understand how big of a deal it was. on 9/11 we woke up to the threat al qaeda presented to us and went to war against them. you could argue with the tactics we used and places that we went but there was no doubt we were killing members of al qaeda and we were on the offense. with isis right now, the perception real or not, the president may argue with me but the perception is we are not winning the war, we are losing territory and it's just like in chicago when the bears are good everybody's a bears fan. right now when isis is appearing to be successful they are expanding into libya, then you have folks prone to this kind of jihadism maybe that haven't actually signed on the dotted line for isis yet that at home radicalize themselves and say i want to be part of this successful movement. >> do you think i

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we saw al qaeda and what they did. this is an off chute, an group of al qaeda. same leader then same leader now with al baghdadi. we have got to assume just like al qaeda, which is repudiated them for being too violent and too extremist that they share though the same goal of coming here to fight. >> you know it's interesting that not existential nature, the threat, you know after 9/11, you know the united states didn't fall apart but the way we exists certainly did change. we have amped up all security. can't even walk into an office building in washington, d.c. without identification and signing in. you have got all that security at airports. our lives really did change. and i actually see that as existential threat to the united states. although the nation didn't fold. so i guess it's how you define existential threat. >> it is. our lives change all the time. they certainly changed after 9/11. believe me greta, i know. i have been ambassador to pakistan iraq and afghanistan since 9/11. it certainly changed my life but in no way was it a morality or even lastin