but al qaeda is more sophisticated. so if an airliner blew up over the u.s., it would far more likely be al qaeda today than isil. al qaeda has suffered losses is still in the game. they can come back in various ways. ms. hicks: i do think the isil threat has been appropriately described as a significant threat. i do not think it has been blown up. there is an area, and territorial region, that they have occupied and operated from. and they do operate worldwide. al qaeda is not permanently on its heels, but we can try to keep them there. it has been degraded because of a lot of worldwide attention, not least of all, the two gentlemen to my left and right. that is what it takes going forwards, either al qaeda, al-shabaab, you name it, it takes a long-term effort with all the tools that we have. ms. dozier: admiral, did you expect we would still be a nation in this fight now? mr. vickers: let me say it is great to be back, and i apologize for not being michael lumpkin, but i am pleased to be on this stage. i spent most of

a chilling piece of literature linked on twitter apparently from the master bomb maker of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula a name many americans will know. a writer believed to be al asiri tells al qaeda affiliates, we urge you to strike america in its own home and beyond. cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of this writing. >> al asiri almost never makes statements in public, he has up to a $5 million u.s. bounty on his head. ibrahim al asiri was behind the 2009 christmas day underwear bomb plot and behind the attempt to place bombs in printer cartridges in 2010. both attacks targeted the united states, both plots failed but they could have killed hundreds of people. al asiri placed a bomb inside the body of his own brother. that bomb killed his brother but it failed to kill the saudi minister. if this is really from al asiri, it's extraordinary because of the risk to his own security he would be taking. he has been targeted in u.s. drone strikes in yemen. they apparently have not gotten him yet. it's a sign he's still alive, and still very dangerous. >> this second mes

the cia is desperate to find al qaeda leaders like al awlaki. and storm is exactly what the cia needs. >> i had these different names. i had different personalities. i was morten storm, murad storm, abu osama, abu mujahid, polar bear. it's some kind of schizophrenic lifestyle. >> and he has made surprising connections with al qaeda leaders. according to counterterrorism expert magnus ranstorp. >> by almost sheer luck to some extent that he had been to the many places, he had met all the right people. >> he's almost a forrest gump of radical islamism. >> i don't think that there are many people like him that have all those different dimensions. he was the real deal. >> the real deal. a larger than life personality who reveals his journey from jihad to james bond in this book "agent storm: my life inside al qaeda and the cia," co-authored by paul cruickshank and tim lister, both cnn contributors. coming up, how storm goes from boxer to holy warrior. >> i was invited by osama bin laden to join up with him in the training camp in afghanistan. ♪ is m

that was more like an al qaeda-inspired plot.here's also concern that the british hacker linked to this threat is somebody trying to instigate terrorist attacks in the united states and other western countries. he was in touch with one of the attackers in that attempted attack in garland, texas, in may, pamela. >> so you have someone like jenaid hussein in touch with americans encouraging them to make an attack. how concerned would you need to be if you're on that list? >> i think you have to be concerned for a few reasons. people will be worried about whether the information is accurate. i personally think that's irrelevant. one of the hardest things to figure out is intent. what do they want to do? attack an embassy? attack a fast-food restaurant? they are indicating intent. they want you to find information on social media and go after individuals from the military, from the cia. and the second and final reason i'd be worried is this information is readily available to a home grown extremist. within 60 seconds, i found my home

but al qaeda is more sophisticated. so if an airliner blew up over the u.s., it would more likely be al qaeda today ban -- than isil. and that remains a significant danger. al qaeda has suffered losses much they are still very in the game. it can come back in various ways. kathleen: i do think it is a significant threat. i do not think it is overblown. and as discussed in some of the previous panels, particularly with the j johnson, in part it is because of the fact that there is an area, a territorial region, that has been able to occupy -- that it has been able to occupy and operate from. and they do operate worldwide. al qaeda is not permanently out, but we can try to keep them there. to the extent that al qaeda have been significantly degraded is because of a lot of worldwide attention. not least of all the determined -- the two gentlemen to my left and right. and i think that is what it takes when ford. whether it is al qaeda, al-shabaab, you name it, it takes a concerted, long-term effort with all the tools that w

there was al qaeda in iraq, al qaeda on iraq and i've written several books on the topic. al qaeda in iraq was defeated in 2010, 2011. when the americans left iraq in 2011, al qaeda in iraq , al zarqawi was bleeding, was besieged was bleeding. numbered not more than 200, 300 fighters. the question why al qaeda in iraq -- >> the syrian a&m [simultaneous speech] [simultaneous speech] >> where has, to come back, the sunni-shia divide, this is the social nourishment, these are not my words, consensus in the filed field. what does mean the sunni-shia divide imran? , even if it is perceived as sectarian. it has allowed i.s.i.s. to what? to embed itself to insert itself in the local sunni society. >> absolutely not people forget [simultaneous speech] >> it's it's it's it's. >> one at a time, foaz first. >> no one can tell you the extent of the support within the sunni community to i.s.i.s. i've worked for years, and the numbers go and these are basically it's not just rhetoric here. the numbers grow. most sunnis, most sunnis implicitly, implicitly the local communities, the poor

isil was al-qaeda in iraq. we knocked al-qaeda in iraq down 90%, and they fled and reconstituted in syria. they're back as well. so it's not just targetters or anything else, it was the entire might of the united states for several years, and they still survive. why? because syria, you had a civil war in syria that basically gave them a new lease on life. >> so you're saying it's -- you can help fight part of the problem, but it wasn't your job to bring stability to the middle east. >> well, we tried, but we're still working on that one. [laughter] >> well, i would agree with the ambassador from france that not every challenge is a nail, but there are some nails out there that need to be hammered. and i i think that parking lot lot -- part of it is the tactical removal of competent leaders of isil from their positions. part of it is, also, the psychological effect of sort of reminding everyone that isil is not invulnerable, that they do have weaknesses that can be exploited by capable opposition forces. and to

as did a lot of the al qaeda group and remember that that al qaeda and i.s.i.l, al qaeda told i.s.i.l. not to be so horned owz in the things they were doing. >> reportedly killed near mosul in northern iraq, as he traveled in a vehicle with another i.s.i.l. operative who also died. this is not the first time u.s. has claimed to kill him. >> well, we've heard a lot of this before but the fact that the white house not only confirmed it but said exactly where it occurred and how it occurred shows that they had very good intelligence and would i say this is a sign that the strategy against the allies is starting to work. >> saddam hussein spent time in a u.s. prison. played a strong role in the capture of mosul, iraq's second largest city. i.s.i.l. then began consolidating its power across northern iraq and setting its sights on baghdad. his death won't necessarily halt i.s.i.l.'s advance nor diminish its authority in the area of controls. the group remains deeply entrenched in mosul where it controls most aspects of life. >> zeina khodr sent us this update from baghdad. >> reporter: i've

and it's something that we should look at. >> back to the earlier point, isis is different from al qaedan that sense it is like the taliban holding a territory. you need a different strategy to attack back then you do all qaeda. there are elements against the leadership, but you have to defeat the army with an army. >> and isn't every drone strike a potential recruiting tool for the opposition? >> there is the theory we have an obligation to protect the united states of america but it's funny we have a lot of surveys in pakistan. the closer you are to the strike if you are a local, the more in favor you generally are because those getting struck are those oppressing you. the more removed you are the more you complain about yourself to being violated and lots of other things but it's been a very, very effective support of the foreign government. we couldn't do it at others talked about it and those authorities rest in important cases on the consent of the host nation. so i just don't buy that argument. yes it is a tough business. it is a very effective one. >> they are an option. >> when

the cia is desperate to find al qaeda leaders like al awlaki. and storm is exactly what the cia needs. >> i had these different names. i had different personalities. i was morten storm, murad storm,

but al qaeda is more sophisticated. so if an airliner blew up over the u.s., it would more likely than qaeda today ban -- isial. lossesa has suffered come up and they are still in the game. they can come back in various ways. cap lane -- kathleen: i do think it is a significant threat. i do not think it has been blown up. , and is an area territorial region, that they have occupied and operated from. and they do operate worldwide. out,eda is not permanently but we can try to keep them there. it has degraded because of a lot of worldwide attention. not least of all the determined to my left and right. -- the two gentlemen to my left and right. qaeda, al-shabaab, you name it, it takes them long-term tools that all the we have. kim did you expect: we would still be a nation in this fight now? i want to say that i am glad to be back in this forum. i apologize for not being michael lumpkin, but i am pleased to be on this stage. i spent most of my time in m,iform avoiding them -- ki but not for lack of respect for her tenacit

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in a letter and video, two leaders of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula known as aqap praised recent wolf style attacks and called for more of them. >> the letter claims to be from master bomb-maker ibrahim al asiri, a man that experts call the most dangerous terrorist operating against the united states right now. al asiri is believed to be working on a new generation of explosives. this is a very dangerous guy. cnn terrorism analyst paul cruickshank joins us right now. you've been following this man for a long time. two major issues here, one, what he said, and, two, the fact that he feels confident enough to say it. >> that's absolutely right. he's still alive. he's still operational and still a very big threat, perhaps the biggest threat to the united states because he's very skilled at making explosive devices which are very difficult for airport security scanners to detect. over the last several years, three times he's plotted to bring down u.s. aviation. he came pretty close in 2009 with that underwear bombing plot over detroit. he's now thought to be working on a new generatio

i worry about al qaeda and pakistan, they have been somewhat quiet recently but most indications they seem to be rebuilding in pakistan's cities. that is part -- we pull out of afghanistan that will impact al qaeda in pakistan. >> host: if the drone strategy isn't working, some prescriptions from mark moyar how to correct the direction. my last question i will get to in a broader sense but for now looking at the drone strategy what is the alternative for the united states? >> guest: certainly a lot of the good alternatives we have lost out now. we made some decisions where we put ourselves in a hole. yemeni year ago we could have been talking about how to build up the government counterinsurgency capabilities. we don't have a government to work with. it will be a lot harder. we do at some point try to build up larger military forces in the case of yemen, trying to get that arab countries to do that. i don't think they are doing a good job. pakistan, our relationship now is in sorry shape because in recent years we can to some extent ease the pakistani government concerns about afghani

-- on al qaeda, you can keep an eye. >> that's right.ght now there is an operational distinction that i think can be made and i think you're seeing as you pointed out a fight over the budget around this. because you can find the al qaeda types because to congregate, they have to come together and train, they have to build explosives, they have to come together and because they're forcibly moving around and talking to each other, that's where we can catch them using wire intercepts and some of our human assets. but these individual one-off single persons who self-radicalize, don't tell anyone, don't make a video, don't leave anything behind, just go out and seemingly randomly start shooting people, they're the problem locally. the real interesting thing people want to be paying attention to is what do we do in a couple of years as those individuals who are self-radicalizing now under the isis mantra learn how to connect with each other, so we might have groups of attacks here on the homeland. >> in other words, someone who might never hav

[speaking at the same time] >> isis, before isis there was al qaeda in iraq. al qaeda and iraq. and i have written several books on the topic. al qaeda and iraq was defeated in 2010, 2011. when the americans letter iraq in 2011, al qaeda and iraq, inning and his successors were bankrupt. was besieged. was bleeding. it did not number more than 200, 300 fighters. the question for us here, why the so-called -- >> they survived because the syrians -- the syrian regime allowed them to establish a redone apt network in syria. >> why isis was grown from 200 fighters in to basically 35,000 fighters, to come back, the sunni-shia divide. this is the social nourishment. these are not my words, consensus in the field. what does mean the sunni-shia divide. the geostrategic struggle. it means sunni dominated saudi arabia. and shia dominated iran. even though it's strategic, it's power oriented, but it's perceived as sectarian. it has allowed isis to, what? to imbed itself. upsetter itself with the local sunni community. >> is their popular support for isil -- [speaking at the same time] >> ab

between al qaeda and isil. im: there are other threats -- russia in ukraine, syria and hezbollah, on and on. are the national security efforts skewed by the fear of isis and al qaeda win they have when they have not caused nearly as much damage in our country recently compared to other actors? kathleen: leon panetta like to say we have to walk and chew gum at the same time. we need to learn how to. i do not think that we send a -- spend a disproportionate amount of time on isis, or taking away from our ability to focus on longer-term challenges. now having said that, resources are severely limited. that is money, sequestration the makes it harder. you will have challenges with money, people, and the vessels that we have -- the tool set we have. we basically have a cold war tool set. it is a constant prioritization of which will -- tools to use and to what end. ad that leads you to sort of selective engagement strategy. the united states has chosen for many years it is just as , satisfying to the public, because

for all hollering on capitol hill over the triumph of al qaeda. the trials we held here have gone, with evidence and testimony of verdicts rendered. richard reed. john walker, were all tried on american soil. the people that set i'm the prison on the old naval base didn't think it was a permanent facility, but the war stretched on and on, as did the explanations we had to give ourselves and the world about the united states and what they were doing there. the further this country headed down the road, the harder to extricate ourselves from the consequence of holding men in indefinite consensus, holding people by telling american people that detainees were the worst of the worst, after we knew that was not the case. the politician around all of this is too hot for a dried-eyed assessment of the cost of the era. that will have to wait for another day. i'm ray suarez. that's "inside story". >>> thailand's prime minister denied the attack. it was an act of terrorism. as the search for suspects continues. >> you're watching al jazeera. live from doha.

i'm not saying that al qaeda/saddam stuff is fiction.but i do believe that bush himself was radicalized by the events of 9/11 and opted to go big and go big was to send a shock wave through the part of the world -- the phrase was used at the time, pardon the expression "drain the swamp." the swamp being these semi states that were providing shelter for groups like al qaeda. again, not're but that somehow by sending the shock wave you might move the region of the world in a more positive direction. >> we have time for one more question. kayla? >> just to broaden the conversation back to the decision to invade iraq. former u.n. secretary general kofi annan is that this was an illegal war, that it was a war of aggression also the nuremberg tribunal called the -- called it a supreme international crime. what about accountability for that? amy goodman mentioned accountability. we've been talking about torture but just around this scope. would you call this an illegal war right off the bat? >> well, in terms of strictly american legality, the

bush, bush 43, started with al-qaeda spiking. so i think we already, you know, saw the dramatic change in the geopolitical arena. but, again, there was no yet strategy to understand how important is this change. still the way america and europe look at the map, it was like -- [inaudible] again. taliban, al-qaeda, afghanistan would go there. iraq is there. but in this interdependent world, it's like a big picture. you cannot do micromanagement because whatever you do with taliban in afghanistan, you eventually could can, you know, have effect and different effect, positive, often negative, in pakistan, maybe indonesia, the large muslim nation. the middle east. so every move on this giant geopolitical board has effect elsewhere. and again, bush 43, he didn't have any long-term strategic view of, you know, what is your plan. not an exit strategy. because i think the whole idea of conflict and exit strategy today is the fact that you can't exit from this planet. you know, you may criticize the invasion of -- [inaudible] but you shoul

al qaeda's top leaders were either killed, arrested or fled to yemen where they formed al qaeda in the arabian peninsula six years ago. now saudi arabia faces new challenges, a fight at home against isil and a campaign in neighboring yemen against houthi militias. >>> pro government forces in yemen are gaining ground after taking back the country's largest military base. fighters are calling it a significant blow to the houthis and those fighting the former president. securing that air base has given the popular resistance control of roads listening three southern states. >> we have cleared them out. with the help of the coalition the fighters are in control and we are still pushing back houthi fighters and militias. >>> a french woman kidnap in yemen has been freed. isabel prime will return. they were abducted in february. >>> the u.n. security council is expect would to adopt a draft resolution to investigate chlorine gas attacks in syria. john kerry said he reached an agreement on that resolution with his russian counterpart. they met on the sidelines of the summit. >>> in the u.s.,

al qaeda's top leaders were either killed, arrested or fled to yemen where they formed al qaeda in the arabian peninsula six years ago. now saudi arabia faces new challenges, a fight at home against isil and a minister campaign in neighboring yemen against houthi militias. >> the attack races serious concerns. >> this is the deadliest attack against the kingdom inside its territory over a decade. so that's quite a significant concern. the second piece of this is they targeted elite forces. the fact they managed to get inside the ministry of interior facility and hit trainees means that the gloves have come off and that saudis have a bit of a problem in terms of level of sophistication. and the third issue is that this attack came in the immediate wake of a pretty significant crackdown against isis and other affiliate extremists. we had a sweep in which 134 people were picked up. but this group slipped through the cracks. this has to raise questions in saudi arabia. >>> are the pentagon defended its decision to train and equip moderate fighters in syria in order to take on isil. they ac

al qaeda in iraq is not just al qaeda jihadists and former iraqi military officers and others. created, were at least allowed to expand, by iraqi government action. >> i completely agree. >> on that note, thank you very much. conversation to be continued. [applause] >> wednesday, the outgoing army chief of staff ray or do you know discusses his tenure in the future of the army. we will be live from the pentagon at 1:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. and, discussion on naval aviation. the center for strategic and international studies hosts commanders from the navy and marine corps. that is live at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3. >> this sunday night on "q and then," institute for policy's antiwarnd a -- and activist phyllis bennis on the recent negotiations with iran and the war on terrorism. >> who is isis? why are they violent? i address them on the book. i think what is more important in some ways, because it is something we can do something about, is, what is the u.s. policy? why isn't it working? can we go to war against terrorism? are we doing the more wrong, or is it wrong to

al-qaeda's top leaders were either killed, arrested or fled to yemen where they formed al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula six years ago. now, saudi arabia faces new challenges a fight at home against isil, and a military campaign in neighboring yemen against houthi militias. al jazeera. >> jane is with the middle east and north africa program at the global affairs think tank. thanks for coming into the studio. isil is proving it can strike in saws rain. how big a threat is the country now facing, do you think? >> it's certainly a severe threat the most severe threat that saudi arabia that faced for a decade since it managed largely to contain the wave of al-qaeda attacks carried out there. >> where are the supporters of isil coming from within the saudi community? how are they being recruited? >> it seems that it's only a small minority of saudi's who will express support for isil as was the case with al-qaeda, but the movement looks particularly for disaffected unemployed young men with time on their hands, without much purpose in their lives and focuses on a narrative that the saudi g

did it intensify the growth of al qaeda in iraq after 2003? that it did. it expanded the sunni insurgency. ve forward to the irserise of isil after al qaedad iraq with largely defeated, it is largely a creation of the syrian civil war in the sanctuary. a lot of them operated from there during the iraq war. al qaeda in iraq is not just al qaeda jihadists and former iraqi military officers and others. created, were at least allowed to expand, by iraqi government action. >> i completely agree. >> on that note, thank you very much. conversation to be continued. [applause] >> on the next washington journal, a look at the donald trump campaign and his positions on key policies with michael warren of the weekly standard. then the executive director of young invisibles talks about policy issues affecting millennial voters, including student to death and health care. then a discussion on infighting in deep gone about how to combat china. washington journal, live on 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. you can join the conversation with her calls and comments on facebook and

gestation of al qaeda. we had nobody on the ground, for intelligence, humanitarian purposes, nothing. i'm still perplexed by this. this happened january 20th, the day of inauguration, so that decision was made in late 1988 but once the russians withdraw, why should we withdraw. i couldn't understand it. but i was there when they lowered the flag at the u.s. embassy in kabul and that is why i'm still engaged with this topic. what happened? we're storytellers and there is a story behind that. and look at what happened. we have to remain engaged. we need diplomats familiar with the territory. we need farsi speakers and hindu and other speakers. two hours away from new delhi, and that is a flight, we have a u.s. embassy with over 700 people and zero in afghanistan. it didn't make any sense to me. but remember, i didn't fly in and out of the region. i lived in india and i breathed and drank the water, not the cool aid. what is going on here? it rarely made domestic press coverage, but "time" had an asia edition

, and remember that al qaeda and i.s.i.l. - al qaeda told i.s.i.l. not to be horrendous in the things they were doing, and broke off. >> he was reportedly killed near mosul, as he travelled in a vehicle with another operative who also died. this is not the first time the u.s. claimed to have killed him. he was reported dead in a strike in late 2014. >> people said we have heard a lot before. it said where and how it occurred, showing it had intelligence and a sign of strategy, that it is beginning to work. >> a former officer that served time said he played an instrumental role in the capture of mosul. that was a big victory, highlighting the army and ability to defend the city. i.s.i.l. began to consolidate power across northern iraq and setting sights on baghdad. his death will not necessarily halt i.s.i.l.'s advance or dim in jish its authority. -- dim in jish it's authority >>> the syrian observatory for human rights is confirming i.s.i.l. has demolished a christian monastery in central syria. photos uploaded to a site shows militants using bulld

contractor who was kidnapped by al-qaeda in pakistan. and as you know, the united states tried to rescue him and another hostage there italy. unfortunately, they were killed. so this actually happened 2011. in other words, about four years ago. and what kind of lessons can we learn from that. and also i would like to mention that elsewhere, for example, this spain on august -- in spain on august 13, 1997, this is the 18th anniversary that a spanish politician blanco -- and we do have some people here who are expert on spain -- he was kidnapped and shot by the eta, and i think we have to remember this as well. it's not only the americans, but there are many, many others. we will have to deal with that. so the point i'm making is that we really need a new approach, so to speak, to deal with hostages this terms of placing priority rather than statistics to save lives. and there is a saying, as you know, in judaism and islam and christianity that if you save one life, it is as if you saved the entire world. and, after all, i do hope that we

then we had the afghanistan situation i guess we will call at which spawned al qaeda and other global jihadist movements. training was done by the cia and pakistan's intelligence director in particular and of course we had some of us remember the innocent days of the red brigades group, the children of the bourgeoisie. that period reduced traditional u.s. government ct policy. it would bring terrorists to justice isolate state sponsors of terrorism improved allies counterterrorism capability and retrospect to hostages sessions, no deals. after 9/11, that policy was somewhat expanded with the global war on terrorism much more aggressive policy, at least rhetorically and especially more and were -- and the military. and then we had afghanistan, iraq followed idea that states patriot act, the creation of the department of homeland security etc.. part of ct policy is always the question of dealing with hostages. and i was much taken by a recent discussion on the background of this policy by rand corporation's brian jenkins to you all know. his basic thesis is many people erroneously belie

what i do know is we are sufficient to concern about ikeda, ikeda in the arabian -- al qaeda, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, and was the 2001 authorization for force. john: i would say whether my division was formed after september 11, we are the first new division at the department of justice in 50 years, and it was created in 2006, and it was to break down a law, between law enforcement on one hand and the intelligence community on the other, and it has been dedicated to ensuring that as lawyers, we have our prosecutors, our intel lawyers,our regulatory sitting under one roof, focusing on national security threats and this driven by what picture shows the threat is, so in terms of what they are telling us the threat is, we remain concerned about al qaeda conducting a large-scale attack. we are concerned about safe havens and doing everything we can as a government through the authorities, whether it is covert action, military action, law enforcement, or other sanctions to prevent safe havens in yemen or serial or iraq or libya, preventing these terrorist groups from having the ti

it is promoted worldwide so the media and so on by the islamic state and al qaeda but al qaeda is asking people, just come to join us in the underground. better if you don't come, your family to become a member of an organization who is facing difficulties in the hindu kush, in the, maybe you think about coming to germany where the situation -- these are the people that, hey, come and join us. you want to fight. do so. you want to join our hospital? come to join our new society, our new sharia-based new society. so this, we have a problem with these people. these people are in this oddball lance between two cultures and societies and your families are often, families are often the immediate circle where all of these leading people, making people vulnerable to radicalization. we speak often about prisons. we speak often about schools. we speak often about mosques. we are families, we are families where little help is provideed to these people to solve the conflict between the identity and the cultural norms that parents, particularly the father tries to maintain within the family. and the

. >> he was an al qaeda operative. when he came in after our invasion, then he joined isil as did a lot of the al qaeda group. al qaeda told isil not to be so horrendous and they broke off. >> he was killed on august 18. this isn't the first time the u.s. claimed to have killed him. he was reported dead in a strike in late 2014 as well. >> the first reports came out, people said we have heard a lot of this before. the fact that the white house not only confirmed it, but said where it occurred and how it occurred shows that they had good intelligence. i would say this is a sign that the strategy of the united states and allies is beginning to work. >> reporter: a former officer under saddam hussein. that was a big victory highlighting the inability or unwillingness to defend the city. isil began consolidating its power and setting its sights on baghdad. his death won't necessarily halt isil's advance nor diminish its authority in the areas it controls. it remains deeply entrenched where it controls all asecretaries oasp

now in this article this writer believed to be al asiri tells the al qaeda affiliates we urge you to america in its own home and beyond. cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of this writing. this is striking because al asiri almost never makes statements in public. he's got a $5 million u.s. bounty on his head and has been targeted by drone strikes in yemen. he was behind the 2009 christmas underwear bomb plot. both plots targeted the united states and both failed. but they came very close to succeeding. al asiri was with his brother in 2009. he once even placed a bomb inside the body of his own brother in an attempt to kill the counter terrorism chief. it killed his brother but it failed to kill the minister. it is extraordinary because of the risk to his own security he would be taking. also another message from aqap this morning. a man who has emerged as a top leader in al qaeda praises the dhar charlie hebdo attacks in paris. take a listen. >> translator: he penetrated the base killing and injuring american marines in a blessed jihadi operation. we ask allah to accept

we put abu bakr al-baghdadi in prison al qaeda came into iraq which morphed into i.s.i.s. so we have that responsibility. but we don't have responsibility for i.s.i.l. winning on the ground against the syrian army or the syrians against bashar al-assad. that's not our responsibility. those that wanted to us get involved a couple of years ago caught to step back and say if we did, we are going after bashar al-assad do you want to fight them at the same time and deal with the p.k.k. iraq is different. you have a chance of prevailing. it's only us and the iranian on the same side there. >> former assistant secretary of defense, good to have you with us. >> the pentagon says suspected i.s.i.l. member has been handed over to the iraqi government. she is the widow of a late i.s.i.l. leader killed in may by u.s. special forces in syria. >> a group affiliated with i.s.i.l. is claiming responsibility for a suicide bombing this morning at a mosque in south-western saudi arabia. authorities say the attack killed at least 15. 12 were members of saudi arabia's special forces. we have a

al qaeda's syrian win carried out an attack on syrian opposition forces trained by americans. it is the latest attempt by the al nusra front to undermine syrian rebel groups receiving support from the west. zeina khodr is in southern turkey with the latest. >> reporter: across the border in syria opposition groups have taken up release against each other. there has been more infighting threatening the training and equipping of the force to take on the islamic state of iraq and levant. in is thought to be an air strike carried out by the u.s. to support allies in syria, targetting positions of the al qaeda-linked al nusra front in northern aleppo. it came too late. fighters attacked the base of a u.s.-backed syrian group called division 30, and abducted his commander and several of his men. it was a message to the commanders and syrians that battling with it. >> translation: the 30 subdivision is a group chained by the u.s. they entered syria sa few days ago. it's an arm that america is trying to create in syria to fight terrorism. america classified javer as a terrorist group.

of failing to protect them when they were attacked by an al qaeda-linked group last week. >> reporter: syrian fighters trained by the united states refusing to fight. five of the group were ri tained by al nusra, a sifted was killed. the white house is under scrutiny for the failure of the provision. >> reporter: would you say the white house is disappointed, the president disappointed with the mission. >> we have been forthright believe that the department of defense has been forthright about the changes that that operation faced. it has not significantly encumbered other aspects. >> reporter: groups say that it signed up to battle i.s.i.l., not nusra. it opposed air strikes on fighters in recent days. the pentagon denied that it decide its battle plan. we acknowledge the challenges. the idea that we were caught totally flat-footed by the idea that we were sending them into a dramatic and changing war zone is not accurate. >> still, the united states spent money and months training the fighters, supplying them well night vision equipment. success is not contingent on one battle. even

launches strikes against al qaeda-linked rebels. also on this program international condemnation after a palestinian baby is killed in an arson attack. trade ministers fail to agree on a controversial deal that would free up markets for 40% of the world. plus -- >> what could be the kitchen of the future where these robotic arms are whipping up a crab bisque. >> we begin in syria where fighter jets thought to be from the u.s. led alliance have bombed al qaeda-linked fighters. they had attacked the headquarters called division 30. they said they kidnapped eight division fighters accusing them of being agents of american interests. >> translator: the infantry commander went to syria to fight isil. coordination was agreed on and safe passage was granted to fight isil. so we are shocked by this attack against our fighters. rumors that we are american agents are not true. our fighters are syrians fighting isil and the syrian regime for the security of the syrian people. >> what is this fighting tell us about the complex dynamics between

al-qaeda's top leaders were either killed, arrested or fled to yemen where they formed al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula six years ago. now, saudi arabia faces new challenges, a fight at home against isil, and a military campaign in neighboring yemen against houthi militias. al jazeera. >> in the last hour, a car bomb rattled houses across having a's largest city. it is in the vicinity of an american and afghan army base. at the moment, police say the tarts isn't clear and they are gathering more details. >> as the security situation in iraq deteriorates, more and more civilians are being caught in the crossfire between government forces and isil. in may isil fighters seized ramadi the provincial capital of anbar. fallujah is now under siege. you may find some images in the report disturbing. >> in fallujah, bullets and bombs don't discriminate and the wounds have only grown deeper. residents say the young are now just as likely a target as the old, that civilians of all ages are under siege from both isil and the iraqi army. >> look at this, this happened as a result of artillery shel

before that it was al qaeda. it doesn't matter what they call themselves. they can call themselves al shabaab, al qaeda. it's the philosophy. it's the ideology that motivates people to do it and furthermore the successes they've had. if you want to stop it right away, decapitate it. no safe havens for anybody. >> what i hear is they see a revolution going on on then ter net. this generation has been able to establish a contact online that's really inthe i mat, helps them get over the threshold. pre9/11, you had to have the one on one contact. it's not an accident a that the average age of the suspect is 24 years old. this is the target generation that has grown up in this new digital jihad. >> it's the internet. >> it's the internet. not only the spreading of the propaganda but also for trade craft purposes. so what's the difference between al qaeda a few years ago and what we're seeing in terms of isis today is the means that they're using to facilitate this information. think of al qaeda as blair which project and xbox. it's rapid and it moves fast and we

has hit an al-qaeda group believed to be under news are a's protection. news are a feels it is a target and seems to be taking preemptive measures to protect itself. at the same time it has complicated the coalition's plans to fight isil in syria. al jazeera. southern turkey. >> well, it was billed as the biggest trade deal in history but it has come crashing down as ministers from 12 countries have failed to agree on a way forward. andrew thomas has been following those talks in maui and now reports of what, if anything, happens next. >> this was supposed to be the moment to announce the biggest trade deal in history. the summit in hawai'i lasted four days but over all trans-pacific partnership negotiations have been going on for more than five years. claims of meaningful progress rang holy. >> this was anticipated to be a make or break summit for these talks. it's disappointing that you're not able to announce a deal in principle. >> there is a limited number of difficult issues that require additional attention to be resolved, but i feel very gratified

reportedly launches air strikes in syria against al qaeda-linked rebels. >>> hello, this is al jazeera live from doha i'm jane dutton also in the programme - international condemnation after a palestinian baby is killed in an arson attack >>> trade ministers fail to agree on a controversial deal that would free up markets for 40% of the world, plus a chance of a new life. chaotic scenes in calais as migrants try to get into britain >>> we begin in syria where another front line in the war is emerging. two groups that have been fighting on the same side against i.s.i.l. are battling each other. the al nusra front, which is syria's al qaeda affiliate attacked the headquarters of a group called the vision 30. the armed group says it kidnapped a group of division 30 fighters and its commander on thursday. division 30 fighters were trained to build a moderate force to fight i.s.i.l. on friday there were reports that the u.s. responded with air strikes against al nusra front. division 30 fighters called on al nusra front to stop spilling the blood of muslims >>> the iry commander went to sir

is it isis or al qaeda?utenant colonel ralph peters good morning to you, where do you come down on that answer within that debate? >> it's a totally empty debate. who is the greater threat, al qaeda or islamic state? which do you want, bone cancer or brain cancer? you can't pick. you got to destroy them both. they are both branches on the same poisonous tree. they're certainly differences. al qaeda has been somewhat in decline. islamic state is certainly burgeoning. everybody loves a winner. al qaeda is obsessed with hitting the united states. islamic state's top priority right now is establishing the caliphate. but in the long run a deeply-rooted caliphate in the middle east would be even greater threat than al qaeda. so the bottom line you have got to get them both, i got you colonel. you may be right about that a lot of debate and answer in this debate goes towards how we go about the counterterrorism effort. ultimately where we put our resources and where we put our money. >> you put your resources in bo

before that it was al qaeda. it doesn't matter what they call themselves. they can call themselves al shabaab, al qaeda. it's the philosophy. it's the ideology that motivates people to do it and furthermore the successes they've had. if you want to stop it right away decapitate it. no safe havens for anybody. >> what i hear is they see a revolution going on on then ter net. this generation has been able to establish a contact online that's really inthe i mat, helps them get over the threshold. pre9/11, you had to have the one on one contact. it's not an accident a that the average age of the suspect is 24 years old. this is the target generation that has grown up in this new digital jihad. >> it's the internet. >> it's the internet. not only the spreading of the propaganda but also for trade craft purposes. so what's the difference between al qaeda a few years ago and what we're seeing in terms of isis today is the means that they're using to facilitate this information. think of al qaeda as blair which project xbox. it's rapid and it moves fast and we geesh

out and denounced the violence of al qaeda.a police officer was killed. and this has led -- these sorts of errant drone strikes have led to real questions because the whole drone program is cloaked in secrecy. what does the u.s. government do -- what does it do when it kills innocent civilians in a foreign country like this? when the u.s. military inadvertently killed civilians. there are procedures for condolence payments, and they will make compensation to the families. what happens with drone programs have been cloaked in secrecy. we found a guy who was the relative of some of the innocents who were killed who recounted an incredible story, this had been a cia drone strike and we tracked him down in yemen, interviewed him by skype and were able to get a whole bunch of records showing that after the drone strike, and after some human rights watch had written about this and human rights group had brought him to washington to meet with members of the white house, he gets called to a -- the national security bureau in yemen, it